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CHINA and JAPAN should Sit Down and TALK!!!   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2014-1-12 12:05:55 |Display all floors
This post was edited by tedbrent at 2014-1-12 12:06

  Don't make such daffy assumptions. You have the right to detest Japan if you are Chinese, but that's no justification for putting forth a barmy proposal like this one. Beyond that, what's the point of tossing out such thoughts in an English forum set up by a Chinese English newspaper?  Just post it in a Japanese forum where you can find many belligerent  Japanese nationalists like you. You should reason with them , not us.

  Any idea who will win out?

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Post time 2014-1-12 15:38:05 |Display all floors
tedbrent Post time: 2014-1-12 11:55
What do such land disputes over the ownership of Diaoyu Island have to do with Australia?  I'm goin ...

Indeed, ask your Australian compatriots what China's claim to Diaoyudao has anything to do with Australia's national interest, and yet, 95% of the Australian forumites attack China and support Japan in this and almost every issue that infringes on Chinese sovereignty, except maybe yourself, which makes you an exception that proves the rule.  The reason mainstream Australian policy is Anti-China, is to let Asians kill Asians, i.e., let the Japanese devour China and Korea, instead of taking on Australia, which is the juiciest steak of the Asian Pacific region.  

By offering to join with Japan, China would be merely doing unto Australia what Austraila has been doing unto China.  The British empire and its proxies, pawns and puppets are encouraging and empowering Japan to fight China over one tiny group of islands called the Diaoyu Islands.  Don't you think it is far more enticing for the Japanese to take over the enormous natural resources and seas of Australia, that really belonged to the Polynesian civilization, of which their indigenous Ainu have a valid claim of patrimony to?  Of course, and so do the Vietnamese, Thais, Khmers, Burmese, Indonesians, Malaysians, Filipinos have a related claim to, by kinship to the aborigines of Australia.  

It would be a thousand times more rewarding, materially and morally, for the Japanese to go back to the South Pacific, win the next Midway Battle, and liberate Australia on behalf of its native peoples and the native Polynesians of the Pacific as well.  How about a new Commonwealth of Pacific and Polynesian Peoples (CPPP) where the profits of the banking industry in the region do not get siphoned off to London, but remains in Australia to fund its education, health care, infrastructure and industry?  Most of the fat of the land nowadays is sucked out through interest payments and dividends that go back to the West, while the looting of the resources that follows using such monies as earned from these quasi-colonies is "enforced by tree trade" (an oxymoron if ever there was one).


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Post time 2014-1-12 16:07:08 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2014-1-12 16:16

On the other hand, if He-Whose-True-Intentions-Cannot-Be-Said decides to take Diaoyudao by force, China would be doing the West a favor by taking care of the problem, China-style, and make Japan's cherished dream of empire vanish forever in an instant.  British principals, proxies and puppets should all get out of the way, as quickly as they can, when the great and terrible day of the Lord comes upon the Sodom and Gomorrah of the East.  Japan is moving briskly toward its day of reckoning, so there is no need to speculate what will happen, because it will have already happened before the speculation is finally done.


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Post time 2014-1-12 20:50:43 |Display all floors
abramicus Post time: 2014-1-12 16:07
On the other hand, if He-Whose-True-Intentions-Cannot-Be-Said decides to take Diaoyudao by force, Ch ...

  I'm not a historian, bud. I think that Japan still has America looking over its shoulder; therefore, China doesn't really have to fret about it or even make a point of reminding other Asian nations the dangers of having an " aggressive" Japan in Asia.

  The most critical issue facing China now is still the old one: how to alleviate poverty in far-flung places while creating jobs for laid-off workers and even youngsters. China will never be a force to be reckoned with if it doesn't have a healthy economy and international companies able to produce highly profitable products sold in abroad.

  Do you really think that makes America standout lies only  in its incomparable military capabilities? I think the answer is yes and no. Don't just pay your attention to its military power, dude. What makes America truly great is that America has many companies gung-ho about producing out-of-box products and conceiving business plans or management methods that are off the charts. That explains why you find many Chinese companies jostling to copy their American counterparts' business plans with gusto.

  I just can't figure out why would you guys keep talking up the need to be offensive when dealing with Japan. I know Japan has scores of nationalists calling on its government to beef up its military force in a bid to take on China and Korea when land disputes lead to regional conflicts or even a military confrontation between China and Japan. Yet you can find such nationalists in China as well, particularly on a left-wing website that has become the voice of nationalism; this Chinese website is said to have been blocked in China.

  Which means that even China's leaders are apprehensive that rampant nationalism would incite hatred against not the Japanese but foreigners from other nations as well.  There are already indications that some Japanese  companies are pulling their business operations out of China for fearful of becoming the victims of nationalism, and some American companies are said to have considered moving their factories to other Asian nations that provide cheap labor costs like China. I think that's truly the worrisome issue for China now, given that you have scads of Chinese workers working for such foreign companies.

  We all know that unemployment is also rising in China, although some functionaries living in China just wink at such hard realities, saying lots of new jobs have been created in China over the years. In some ways they have a point. But they are talking about sinecures or cushy positions that only people from well-connected families are allowed to take up; we are talking about job opportunities for the ordinary people.

  That's really the issue the Chinese should care about, not Japan. You just have to creat job opportunities for the ordinary people living within their means and struggling to cope with assorted inequities. Japan is not a threat for them; poverty is.

  Just a thought.

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Post time 2014-1-13 07:26:28 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2014-1-13 09:19

PEACE IN ASIA WITH A FULLY EMPOWERED NAZI REGIME IN JAPAN IS IMPOSSIBLE

Leadership means ability to lead toward peace and progress.  American leadership of Asia, especially in a Japan that the Allied powers entrusted to its care, incredibly, has led to the RENAZIFICATION of Japan, an outcome that cannot be accepted under any interpretation of the Allied declarations in the Cairo Declaration of 1943 and the Potsdam Proclamation of 1945, nor under the Instrument of Surrender of Japan of September 2, 1945, when Japan promised to return all the lands it had seized from China, but has not, in particular, in the matter of Diaoyudao.  

Do you equate nationalists in Israel who defend their country from another Holocaust at the hands of Iran, with the nationalists in Iran who wish to wipe Israel off the map?  If you do not, then please do not equate the nationalists in China who are trying to prevent another genocide of 35 million Chinese by the Japanese, with the nationalists of Japan who are trying to regain that ability, as in Abe sitting on the cockpit of a T4 training plane of the Japanese Air Force, painted black in clear white background with its name of "731", right next to the large red sun of the Japanese national flag, on May 12, 2013.  "Unit 731" is China's Auschwitz, and "T4" is the Nazi program of eugenics, euthanasia and medical experimentation, that most closely resembles the operation of Unit 731.  No Japanese politician can claim to be unaware of the significance of Unit 731, especially Abe, whose maternal grandfather, PM Kiishi, was stationed in Manchuria, where the atrocities took place.  If America shows its LEADERSHIP in condemning a Japan that is supposedly under its tutelage towards democracy and peace, on its territorial grab and revanchist militarism, China will listen and let it be.  But if Japan is allowed to be transformed once again into the carnivorous rotweiler that it was in WWII, China will not sit still.  Will America allow Hawaii to be bombed or taken over by a Japanese naval fleet?  Diaoyudao is China's Hawaii.  Even non-communist Taiwan will tell you it belongs 100% historically and legally to China, and if anyone doesn't believe it, he or she can ask ROC President Ma Yingjeou who just recently reasserted the sovereignty of the Republic of China (not the PRC) over Diaoyudao/Tiaoyutai.  If Taiwan does not have the balls to take over Diaoyudao, China will have to, and when war breaks out, Taiwan will either be left without access its island that has been the source of food for its people for countless generations, suffer a future invasion by Japan if China loses, or suffer the fallout of any untoward catastrophe in the East China Sea.  

So, as the Jewish saying goes, "First they took the communists, and I kept quiet, then they took the Poles and I kept quiet, . . . and finally, they came to take me, and there was nobody to speak out for me."  The rise of Nazism in Asia in Japan will have the profoundest repercussions on the existence of Israel, from the tide of Nazism that is likely to spread out from this epicenter in Japan.  Fittingly, Abe sat in the cockpit of a T4 near Fukushima, the epicenter of the unending nuclear meltdown that may force Japan to relocate large numbers of its population to surrounding countries in the coming years.

This is the 11th hour.  The 119th anniversary of Japan's illegal seizure of Diaoyudao is coming up on January 14.  The easiest way for America to retain its leadership in Asia is to speak out against Nazism in Japan and tell Japan, get out of Diaoyudao.  But China is no longer holding its breath to hear such boldness coming from a fading power that cannot even contain the rise of Nazism under its own nose.  

As one of the Allied Powers in WWII to which Japan surrendered, as officially signed in the Instrument of Surrender of the Japanese Empire of September 2, 1945, China has every right as any other signatory to enforce its terms, one of which is the return of Diaoyudao to China.  If Taiwan does not have the balls to do it, and is too riddled with pro-Japanese turncoats to do it, then China, reluctantly has to take up the leadership of the Free World for the first time, in squashing the return of the infamous perpetrators of Unit 731, your "Japanese friends".

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Post time 2014-1-13 07:34:44 |Display all floors
tedbrent Post time: 2014-1-12 12:05
Don't make such daffy assumptions. You have the right to detest Japan if you are Chinese, but that ...

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE CHINESE TO DETEST JAPAN....REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR.....
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Post time 2014-1-13 07:36:21 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2014-1-12 20:41
Try something a little more realistic, old fool: The Japanese are no longer expansionist, unlike t ...

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