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So, for the past 20 or more years, commercial aircraft have been flying through this region, with established, posted flight plans, carrying passengers to and from China, with transponders signaling their aircraft call-sign, nationality, carrier and aircraft type to all and sundry ... and only now ... China decides that these very same commercial aircraft need to be protected from some invisible Bogey-man who may or may not shoot them out of the sky because he is too stupid to be able to tell the difference between a Boeing or Airbus commercial jetliner and an F-15 Tomcat.

Basically, what we have here is a country which attempts, every time, to get its own way through threats and intimidation, stating that they want no changes to the status quo, yet, at the same time, sets up a bogus Air Defence Identification Zone, and threatens to shoot down any commercial airliners who don't say, "Yes, Master, I am here". This action, in fact, upsets the status quo far, far more than people realize.

As well, by doing so, and saying, "It's for your own safety. We don't want to see anything happen to you <wink, wink>", they are threatening the lives of airline passengers from all over the world, implying that they actually care about the world's citizens, when in fact, they care only about themselves. They don't give a s**t about anybody else.

No other country demands foreign aircraft identify themselves and announce flight plans when entering an ADIZ. None! No other country takes international airspace and claims it as its own territory. None! But that's precisely what China has done in setting up this bogus ADIZ and telling other countries to remove theirs from "China's territory", even though those other ADIZ's have been in place for 40 years or more.

China says she does not "threaten or intimidate" her neighbours, yet the very act of setting up this bogus ADIZ, when there was absolutely no reason in the world to do so, does just that. It doesn't take much to figure out just who the real bully is in the South China Sea.

Why is there no ADIZ being set up to the south of China? Why is there an ADIZ only in the South China Sea area? If you set up an ADIZ, you set it up along your entire coastline, not just over select portions of it. This whole matter is nothing more than rhetoric, threatening, intimidation, bullying, and BJBS!
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zglobal Post time: 2013-12-1 21:36
Of course you can choose to remain ignorant...

Taking you two days to come up with a one liner, ahem.

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This post was edited by abramicus at 2013-12-2 11:09
cmknight Post time: 2013-12-2 08:09
So, for the past 20 or more years, commercial aircraft have been flying through this region, with es ...

For the past 20 or more years, Japan's government observed a code of silence with the government of China regarding the sovereignty status of Diaoyudao, until the summer of 2012, when Japanese PM Noda convened a cabinet meeting to purchase three of these islands from a Japanese national who supposedly "owned" these islands.  So, starting with a premise that is no longer true does not give your argument the force of historical precedent, but actually shows its lack of such.  Clearly, Japan changed the status quo, and now for the past year and two months, Japan has repeatedly refused China's request for both governments to sit down and peacefully negotiate the sovereignty status of Diaoyudao/Senkaku.  China's patience waiting for a formal negotiation for over a year seems to have been missed by your meticulous monitoring of the situation, why?

Let me help you answer this question.

Because you are biased against China, and are covering up Japan's aggressive actions.  None of what China now does can be construed as changing the status quo, if the status quo at present, is not the real status quo ante.  Rather, China is trying to restore the Status Quo Ante of September 10, 2012, before Japan's UNILATERAL nationalization of Diaoyudao.

China has every right to establish its own ADIZ, because there is no prohibition on any country doing so, as a matter of self-defense.  Countries that do not wish to register their aircrafts with China's authorities are still free to fly in China's East China Sea ADIZ.  Knowing that Japanese military aircrafts that violate China's airspace over Diaoyudao are mixed into this buzz of civilian air traffic, China merely provides the non-military aircrafts a means to not be mistaken for Japanese military planes.  Because, as a matter of self-defense, China may legally shoot down any Japanese military plane that flies within the circumscribed, sovereign, airspace she has over Diaoyudao, if the Japanese military plane threatens to use force on any Chinese planes sent to escort it out of such an area.  If Japan does not want this to happen, it should not send military planes into the airspace above Diaoyudao, and it should not threaten any Chinese planes flying inside Chinese airspace.  China's ADIZ outside the Diaoyudao airspace can be used by the Japanese military planes without any problem; they are just monitored from afar, and only when they enter China's airspace will they be escorted out.  Now, if China resists aggression, in her own territory, it is by any definition, self-defense.  Any other interpretation is unsustainable.

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