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This post was edited by abramicus at 2013-12-1 10:35|
jay_dee Post time: 2013-12-1 08:12
This whole issue is utter nonsense, a dispute over presumed ownership of uninhabited islands.
Come o ...
Let us not minimize the issue in the hopes of it going away. If indeed Diaoyudao were just a few rocks, to either China or Japan, there would not have been the furor we see over China establishing its ADIZ over the islands, and if indeed no country has any contingency plans to bomb China with conventional weapons or nuclear weapons, there would not have been any angst over China merely setting up an ADIZ to protect its belly that consists of its most densely populated cities, such as Shanghai, Hangzhou, etc. Merely telling a country whose coastline is within a short flying distance from its designated ADIZ that one's military planes are not planning to enter its actual airspace should have been simple courtesy amongst civilized countries. China was not saying "No, you cannot fly your military aircrafts through the ADIZ", it merely wanted to make sure there are no hostile aircraft amongst the thousands of aircrafts buzzing by its doorstep.
One can say, "OK, but China should not have extended its ADIZ over Diaoyudao." That is true, if Diaoyudao is clearly a part of Japan. Up to now, Japan has no basis for claiming sovereignty over Diaoyudao. The US Congressional Record as recently as 1971 denied that the turning over of "administrative control" of Diaoyudao to Japan equated with a transfer of sovereignty to Japan. If so, Japan's claim to Diaoyudao has to based on its 1895 grab of Diaoyudao as a "terra nullius" unclaimed by other countries, which is also patently false, because it was being used by Taiwanese fishermen at that time, when Taiwan was in fact a formal part of China, before the Treaty of Shimonoseki ceded it to Japan in April of 1895. The claim of discovery by Japan being clearly false, its further implied claim of sovereignty by conquest is negated by the terms of surrender of Japan in 1945, in which it accepted the Cairo Declaration, which in turn declared that all territories taken by Japan out of greed should be returned to China, not limited to the Treaty of Shimonoseki, but inclusive of it. Therefore, Diaoyudao is legally speaking, not a part of Japan, even if it was "given" administrative control minus sovereignty by the US in 1971. Therefore, China wanted to sit down with Japan in a civilized manner to discuss their claims of sovereignty. Japan refused, and still refuses, preferring to hide behind the Mutual Defense Treaty with the US, and the US agrees to back up Japan militarily in any event, and therefore, China established its ADIZ over Diaoyudao without negotiating with Japan, which refused to negotiate over its ownership of Diaoyudao.
Now, back to the question, "Is there any valid threat from outside to justify China setting up its ADIZ in the post-Cold-War era?"
The answer is YES, and in fact, the flight of two B52's from Guam towards and into China's ADIZ proves that China was not overly paranoid about such a risk. The risk materialized to justify the ADIZ within 12 hours, and lasted a little more than 2 hours. Easily wthin a timeframe that allows Shanghai, and practically all the coastal cities to be nuked, stretching from Guangzhou, Hongkong, Shanghai, Qingdao, to Tientsin.
In this civilized age, to whom do you send two B52 bombers without telling him that it was not loaded, and was on a training mission only, and right into his Air Defense Identification Zone? To Russia?
Like Rosa Parks, China will keep her seat at Diaoyudao.
As a civilized country, it has every right to self-defense. If South Korea, Japan and Taiwan all have ADIZ's in the East China Sea, there is no reason China becomes a threat by having her own ADIZ, over her own sovereign territory of Diaoyu island. The real threat to world peace is Japan, annexing China's and Taiwan's Diaoyudao. And as of now, Japan is playing Russian Roulette with B52's with China. Of course, China will never know if the next B52 is loaded or not. But China can absorb the first attack, easily. Can Japan survive the retaliation? So, should a "democratic" Japan welcome the new game of a nuclear Russian Roulette being played on China? Not if it is still a democracy. It should have protested, but it is no longer a democracy. It is once again the old Empire of Japan.