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Who are behind the terror in Xinjiang?   [Copy link] 中文

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robert237 Post time: 2013-7-2 09:17
You've been drinking too much of that homemade pruno.
The capitalist are the greedy ones. They wor ...

So all of those extravagant banquets that Chinese officials have only recently been banned from funding were not a show of the worship of money ? And "socialist" China abhors the overt displays of wealth such as via designer fashions, foreign cars, I-phones, imported wines and perfumes, massive private villas, and other outrageous displays of "face" ? This is the worship of Mammon and conspicuous consumption in China as evidenced in cities such as Beijing, Shanghai, Chongqing, Shenzhen etc. Even a drunk would be witness to these everyday realities.

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An interesting account of Chinese and African relationship from wiki ..

    "China is the safest, best regulated of countries for a traveler. A man may go by himself on a nine-month journey, carrying with him a large sum of money, without any fear. Silk is used for clothing even by poor monks and beggars. Its porcelains are the finest of all makes of pottery and its hens are bigger than geese in our country."
Ibn Battuta, Morroccan scholar, AD 1345

China and Africa have a history of trade relations, sometimes through third parties, dating back as far as 202 BC and AD 220.[10] The first mention of Africa in Chinese sources was in the Yu-yang-tsa-tsu by Tuan Ch'eng-shih (died 863), a compendium of general knowledge where he wrote about the land of Po-pa-li (referring to Somalia).

Archaeological excavations at Mogadishu, Somalia and Kilwa, Tanzania have recovered many coins from China. The majority of the Chinese coins date to the Song Dynasty, although the Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty are also represented, according to Richard Pankhurst.[11] In 1226 Chao Jukua, commissioner of foreign trade at Quanzhou in the Fujian province of China, completed his Chu-fan-chih which discusses Zanzibar (Ts'ong-pa) and Somalia (Pi-P'a-Lo).[12]

In the 14th century, Moroccan traveler and scholar Ibn Battuta made a long journey to Africa and Asia. He reached China in April 1345 after a stay in India before serving as an envoy of Sultan Muhammad Tughlaq of the Indian Tughlaq dynasty to China.[1][13] He wrote:[14]

    China is the safest, best regulated of countries for a traveler. A man may go by himself on a nine-month journey, carrying with him a large sum of money, without any fear. Silk is used for clothing even by poor monks and beggars. Its porcelains are the finest of all makes of pottery and its hens are bigger than geese in our country.

The Ming Dynasty voyages of Chinese admiral Zheng He and his fleet, which rounded the coast of Somalia and followed the coast down to the Mozambique Channel. The goal of those expeditions was to spread Chinese culture and signal Chinese strength. Zheng brought gifts and granted titles from the Ming emperor to the local rulers, with the aim of establishing a large number of tributary states.[3] In October 1415, Chinese explorer and admiral Zheng He reached the eastern coast of Africa and sent the first of two giraffes as gifts to the Chinese Yongle Emperor.[15]

There are some other accounts that mention Chinese ships sinking near Lamu Island in Kenya in 1415. Survivors are said to have settled in the island and married local women.[16][17]

Archaeologists have found Chinese porcelains made during the Tang dynasty (618-907) in Kenyan villages; however, these were believed to have been brought over by Zheng He during his 15th century ocean voyages.[18] On Lamu Island off the Kenyan coast, local oral tradition maintains that 20 shipwrecked Chinese sailors, possibly part of Zheng's fleet, washed up on shore there hundreds of years ago. Given permission to settle by local tribes after having killed a dangerous python, they converted to Islam and married local women. Now, they are believed to have just six descendants left there; in 2002, DNA tests conducted on one of the women confirmed that she was of Chinese descent. Her daughter, Mwamaka Sharifu, later received a PRC government scholarship to study traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) in China.[19][20]

National Geographic also published an article by Frank Viviano in July 2005, he visited Pate Island during the time he stayed on Lamu, ceramic fragments had been found around Lamu which the administrative officer of the local Swahili history museum claimed were of Chinese origin, specifically from Zheng He's vorage to east Africa. The eyes of the Pate people resembled Chinese and Famao and Wei were some of the names among them which were speculated to be of Chinese origin. Their ancestors were said to be from indigenous women who intermarried with Chinese Ming sailors when they were shipwrecked. Two places on Pate were called "Old Shanga", and "New Shanga", which the Chinese sailors had named. A local guide who claimed descent from the Chinese showed Frank a graveyard made out of coral on the island, indicating that they were the graves of the Chinese sailors, which the author described as "virtually identical", to Chinese Ming dynasty tombs, complete with "half-moon domes" and "terraced entries".[21]

According to Melanie Yap and Daniel Leong Man in their book "Colour, Confusions and Concessions: the History of Chinese in South Africa", Chu Ssu-pen, a Chinese mapmaker, in 1320 had southern Africa drawn on one of his maps. Ceramics found in Zimbabwe and South Africa dated back to Song dynasty China. Some tribes to Cape Town's north claimed descent from Chinese sailors during the 13th century, their physical appearance is similar to Chinese with paler skin and a Mandarin sounding tonal language. Their name for themselves is "abandoned people", Awatwa in their language.[22]
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far.

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This post was edited by lioncitytemasek at 2013-7-2 12:36
seneca Post time: 2013-7-2 02:09
China is much more than a country - it is a multitude of countries forcibly united in an empire an ...

Every great nation comes about as a result of strong leadership. The Chinese people are proud of their history. Which country do you come from ?
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far.

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Post time 2013-7-2 12:27:24 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2013-7-1 04:53
Perhaps if you could spare some time to apprise yourself of more relevant comparisons - what the C ...

But you forget that the use of the word "natives" in the west is often derogatory and suggests a lesser people. By using the word 'natives", you have already dehumanize a group of people.  Yet you still have the audesty to "fight" for their rights?

There NEVER has been genocide committed against ethnic minorities in Xinjiang. The Uighur population, a Turkic ethnic group, in China now stands at about 11 million.

But ... not too long ago, that revered British war hero, Winston Churchchill, had this to say of the Arab peoples:

"I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes."
1919 War Office Memorandum

So the legacy of chemical warfare lives on today - but now it is even deadier than ever before!



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lioncitytemasek Post time: 2013-7-2 12:27
But you forget that the use of the word "natives" in the west is often derogatory and suggests a l ...

You claim the word native is derogatory, I have never heard that before, what word do you suggest we use?

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