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钓鱼岛,黄岩岛,西沙群岛,南沙群岛,都是中国的领土! [Copy link] 中文

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革命尚未成功,
同志們必須努力!


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Japan considers ‘warning shots’ on Chinese planes                                   

Global Times | 2013-1-10 1:03:01
By Sun Xiuping in Tokyo and Hao Zhou in Beijing

The Japanese government has been discussing how to enhance methods of interception in the wake of China's increasing maritime and air patrols in the waters off the disputed Diaoyu Islands in the East China Sea, and Japan might order its F-15J fighter jets to fire warning shots against Chinese surveillance planes, local media reported on Wednesday.

A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said in a response that China "remains vigilant against attempts to escalate the tensions."

"Patrols conducted by Chinese planes and vessels in waters off the Diaoyu Islands, which are China's inherent territory, are normal official duties to exercise China's jurisdiction rights. China opposes any infringement on its sovereignty over the islands committed by Japanese aircraft or vessels," Hong Lei told reporters at a regular press briefing.

China's Ministry of National Defense also said last month that China's military has been closely monitoring the activities of the Japan Air Self-Defense Force near the Diaoyu Islands.

A move by the Japanese government to "purchase" three of the five uninhabited islands from "Japanese private owners" in September last year triggered the latest round of confrontations between China and Japan.

China's State Oceanic Administration has since then intensified its regular patrols of the waters off the Diaoyu Islands by sending marine surveillance ships and planes.

Japan's Sankei Shimbun newspaper said on Wednesday that the Japanese government was considering strengthening confrontation measures with China including firing warning shots with tracer bullets against Chinese planes.

But a spokesperson from the Japanese defense ministry contacted by the Global Times said the ministry "hasn't come up with such a detailed plan," and declined to comment on China's surveillance activities.

Whether a warning shot by the Japan Air Self-Defense Force would go against its pacifist constitution, which renounces the threat or use of force as a means of settling international disputes, remains under debate.

A retired Chinese air force pilot, who declined to be named, told the Global Times that not all the types of tracer bullets would cause damage to planes, but in the case of the Diaoyu Islands, any warning shots by Japan would be dangerous and would definitely be regarded as hostile aggression or a declaration of war.

A Tokyo-based observer said it is "illegal" for Japan to attack first. "It only has the right to fire back when it comes under attack," the observer said.

The controversial move came on the same day as the Japanese defense ministry announced its plans to spend an extra $2.1 billion on procuring PAC-3 surface-to-air anti-ballistic missile systems, upgrading four existing F-15 fighter jets, and purchasing a number of military helicopters.

This plan is separate from a request for a rise in the military budget for the next fiscal year which Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's ruling Liberal Democratic Party called for on Tuesday.

The increase in military spending is said to be part of broader economic stimulus measures set by the ambitious Abe cabinet.

Meanwhile, Japan has been in close communication with the US on its moves regarding the island disputes with China.

"Any attempts by Japan to draw in a third party to confront China over the Diaoyu Islands issue will be in vain," Hong said.

Ni Feng, deputy head of the Institute of American Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times that the bottom line for the US is that it is "not being dragged by Japan into war with China," although Washington has repeatedly told Tokyo that the US-Japan defense treaty applies to any incidents related to the Diaoyu Islands.

Agencies contributed to this story




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Yes, but comrades must not be suckers when politicians are playing games. Chinese people have already hurt other Chinese because of this stupidity.

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This post was edited by abramicus at 2013-1-11 12:26

中国军队不怕流血,不怕死,决不怀有什么不流血战争的幻梦。中日决战就是战到一国秉天下。

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My friend, I agree in total what you have just said above.

However, you have also said earlier and, I quote:

The PLA probably found out at the last minute that it was just as badly armed by its own logistics department as the Beiyang Fleet was on the eve of the Naval Battle of the Yellow Sea in 1894, and thus the delay in entering into combat with the arrogant Japanese SDF air force over Diaoyudao.

The good thing was, it found out its weaknesses before the battle with Japan was joined, this time.

and,

China is also waiting for the current US Secretary of State who is very pro-Japan to step down by January 20, 2013.  But the real reason is probably because China found itself unprepared to go to war with Japan over Diaoyudao.  If so, it is smart to hold off the fighting, and concentrate on preparing for the fight.

Having said that, and after referring to the chart:

"Asian Navies vary broadly in size and configuration" ........

the PLA-Navies are in no way inferior to the Japanese, taken on a one-on-one basis. Thus, why do you say that:

" The PLA probably found out at the last minute that it was just as badly armed by its own logistics department...."  and that  " The good thing was, it found out its weaknesses before the battle with Japan was joined, this time."


Besides, you have also pointed out that:

" But the real reason is probably because China found itself unprepared to go to war with Japan over Diaoyudao. If so, it is smart to hold off the fighting, and concentrate on preparing for the fight."

By your own statements above, what do you construe to imply?

You have also at the same time generate a rhetoric about me, that:


"If you want to know what is what, which is which and who is who, I can tell you that you are a foreign plant, pretending to be a patriot.  
Now, is that clear enough to you, and to everyone reading your antics?"



Incidentally, it is also said that:

“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism”.  {:soso_e183:}
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This post was edited by abramicus at 2013-1-12 08:58

China's Official Reason for Sending up Two Fighter J-10's on January 10, 2013, into Skies Over the East China Sea.

Because . . . one of China's marine surveillance planes flying over the open sea, NOT at Diaoyudao, was harrassed by two Japanese F-15's and an E2C radar plane.

We do not know what happened between the Japanese and the Chinese military fighter planes.

A separate event that day saw a dozen Chinese J-7 and J-10 military planes being confronted by Japanese F-15's over the East China Sea north of Diaoyudao, but not within its sovereign air space.  And the Chinese squadron turned back home without reaching Diaoyudao.  China blinked this one time.  No more blinking please.  If Japan wants a war, Japan deserves a war served as a 12-course dinner.



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