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ONLY CHINA HAS EFFECTIVE JURISDICTION OVER DIAOYUDAO FROM HEREON.   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2012-12-24 12:49:51 |Display all floors
This post was edited by 29042012 at 2012-12-24 12:50

Only that today, there are more destructive weapons on hand.

I hope I will not anymore see this happening within my own life-time.
It is indeed very practical that the party is  judge, legislator, head of the army, executor  and  publisher  all in one in China.

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Post time 2012-12-24 12:51:58 |Display all floors
This post was edited by 29042012 at 2012-12-24 12:52

It is just GREED all over the place !
It is indeed very practical that the party is  judge, legislator, head of the army, executor  and  publisher  all in one in China.

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Post time 2012-12-24 16:56:10 |Display all floors
True, but these institutions look more like toothless pussycats.   


The ICJ already resolved various similar disputes, such as those between the USA and Canada, between northern European nations, between Turkey and Greece, between Lybia and Tunesia, between Cameroon and Nigeria, between Malaysia and Singapore and many more.

If not a legal solution, what other solution could you imagine? I mean, a war in east asia would harm the whole region. And China can't drop its claim over the islands without losing face, just as Japan's government can't drop its sovereignity over them for the same reason.

The only alternative solution I see would be to actually start talking about what the dispute is really about: the ressources under the sea between China and Japan. If you explore the ressources and properly analyze the continental shelfs, the two nations could agree that the pinnacle islands are just some "uninhabbitable rocks that can't sustain economic activity" and therefore don't have any influence on the decision who can exploit the ressources.
Like this, the oil production could finally start - and China and Japan would both benefit.

The ICJ's ruling worked between Northern European nations (which had bombed the hell out of each other just 15 years ago, when their dispute began!). So why shouldn't it work between east asian nations?

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Post time 2012-12-24 18:11:51 |Display all floors
JAPAN CONTROLS NOTHING ON DIAOYU ISLAND

Japan's Myth of Control and Jurisdiction over Diaoyudao Is Dead . . . Long Live Diaoyudao!

It could not stop any Chinese marine surveillance ship from patrolling within the 12 mile radius of Diaoyu island.  Nor could it stop Chinese surveillance planes from patrolling over the Diaoyu islands.  It has nobody on the islands either.

Japan has de facto nothing on Diaoyudao.

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Post time 2012-12-27 13:26:57 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2012-12-22 20:08
The Chinese stole the Senkakus a while earlier than the Japanese did, so by the logic of seniority,  ...
The Chinese stole the Senkakus a while earlier than the Japanese did, so by the logic of seniority.....

You and your foul mouth again. For one thing..... one needs not have to steal what that is one's own belongings; as you have accused the Chinese athletes of STEALING their gold medals at the London Olympics!
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Post time 2012-12-27 15:09:18 |Display all floors

RE: ONLY CHINA HAS EFFECTIVE JURISDICTION OVER DIAOYUDAO FROM HEREON.

seneca Post time: 2012-12-27 13:15
Any land conquered, annexed, invaded by any people and claimed in their name as their property, wh ...
Any land conquered, annexed, invaded by any people and claimed in their name as their property, whether national, tribal or individual, is stolen land. All countries in the world are stolen territories, no matter how hard this is to swallow! The original owners never got paid or rewarded. Think of wildlife and flora! Both are the  losers!

Are you saying that China does not belong to the 1.3 billion Chinese? And that China is not their country and not their land? And hence, you have the rightful abode in China based on your sick argument above?
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Post time 2012-12-27 16:14:55 |Display all floors

RE: ONLY CHINA HAS EFFECTIVE JURISDICTION OVER DIAOYUDAO FROM HEREON.

seneca Post time: 2012-12-27 15:10
Not a single CHINESE has ever lived, or does at present live, on the Senkaku, aka Diaoyutai, islan ...

There are many parts within China that are uninhabited presently. Does it mean that these places do not belong to China?
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