Author: abramicus

SOUTH SEA ISLANDS HAVE BEEN PART OF CHINA FOR CENTURIES BEFORE THE 9-DASH MAP.   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2012-12-18 14:47:53 |Display all floors
China rarely excercised control or even used the islands. European powers have islands all over the world which have been used for centuries and controlled the waterways far more effectively than China did, yet you do not see these countries with dash maps covering oceans or seas. Historical claims are not fair in dealing with these issues, hence for the rules of the sea, and China's historical claims are poor or fabricated at best. Just because some sailors put the islands on a map centuries ago means little. Most Chinese throughout history would never have even known about China having any islands at all let alone in the South China sea. Just an excuse for grabbing resources and hedgemony of the seas.
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Post time 2012-12-18 15:55:18 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-18 16:06

China has owned and ruled over Vietnam for longer than the Roman Empire existed in its entire lifetime.  So, don't come here bragging about how long Western powers have controlled or ruled over any part of the world.  There is no Western empire that can compare to China in the length of its sovereignty - none by a very wide margin - and yet, China has not ravaged its neighbors as the Western pirates and slave-traders have ravaged and massacred innocent natives, to the ends of the earth.  

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Post time 2012-12-18 16:05:39 |Display all floors
To L31gang:

I think you got the subject and object reversed.  It is Japan that needs to realize that people do not respect power, but honesty, fairness, and giving back to others what Japan stole from them before.  And if you cannot understand this, then you have no qualification to preach to others.

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Post time 2012-12-18 21:03:29 |Display all floors
This post was edited by 29042012 at 2012-12-18 21:03

The island of Taiwan had not been Chinese for a very long time, in fact it was for some time even Japanese territory. If we are going back and validate old boundaries, than ...

China has to give back Taiwan to the Taiwanese Aboriginals.

Tibet to the Tibeteans.

The North West provinces to the Uighurs.
It is indeed very practical that the party is  judge, legislator, head of the army, executor  and  publisher  all in one in China.

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Post time 2012-12-18 21:33:07 |Display all floors
china has to be strong & powerful like the US...just take whatever & claim that you want they dont have to be yours just look at australia & new zealand in the pacific for an example  {:soso_e113:}{:soso_e128:}
a man who uses his hands is a laborer. one who uses his hands and his mind is a craftsman. but he who uses his hands, his mind, and his heart, is an artist...

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Post time 2012-12-19 12:17:30 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-19 12:18

The fake Filipino patriot at once claims history is on his side and that history does not matter.  He denies to the Filipino people their right to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth that their robber barons, having once robbed them blind, now wants them to give up their lives for their insatiable greed for the islands of a neighbor who did not in the least bother them for more than two thousand years.  When China resists their theft, China's resistance is equated morally with their violent nature to steal at all costs, even at the cost of thier lives, which they call patriotism, but which only uses patirotism as a guise for simple brigandism in the high seas.  And they want their people to pay for their piracy in wealth and in lives.  After they get the islands, these fat cats then split their spoil with their foreign masters to build castles in distant climes, leaving their countrymen to shoulder the fight and shed their blood, thinking they are defending something true, which turns out to be just another of their many unctuous lies.

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Post time 2012-12-19 12:25:31 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-19 12:34

CHINA NEEDS THE BLOOD AND IRON WILL OF A BISMARCK OR IT WILL BE DRAWN AND QUARTERED LIKE THE MANCHU EMPIRE BY ITS CURRENT ENEMIES.

If an army of 2 million is not enough to defend all its territories, then it must raise 4 million to do it with.  If 4 million is not enough, it must raise 8 million to do it with.  Likewise for ships, planes, tanks, trucks, trains, and missiles.  And all this buildup should not be just for show, or it becomes too expensive to maintain over an extended time.  All this buildup should be to defeat the invaders of China's sacred soil, if necessary, carrying the fight to the heart of the hostile armies, to defeat utterly those who refuse to listen to the voice of peace and reason.   

The army is created only for one purpose, not to deter, but to defeat those who attack or invade one's homeland.  Deterrence works for those who listen to reason and conscience.   Defeat to all the rest.


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