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RE: Thirty Miles Is a Shore Too Far - Sovereignty Is at Ground Zero.

China, Japan hold secret talks over Diaoyu IslandsUpdated: 2012-10-25 01:11By ZHANG YUNBI and WU JIAO ( China Daily)




Chinese and Japanese diplomats discuss dispute at Shanghai meeting

Chinese and Japanese diplomats met secretly over the weekend to discuss the Diaoyu Islands, Tokyo confirmed on Wednesday, in a sign that lines of communication remain open between the two countries.

The meeting between the vice-ministers of foreign affairs, the second in a month, came as relations experienced a period of severe turbulence after Japan "purchased" the islands in September.

Despite the meeting, reports emerged on Wednesday that Japanese Defense Minister Satoshi Morimoto watched a drill simulating the landing on an uninhabited island. The Japanese media said the drill was "targeting China".

Japanese Vice-Minister of Foreign Affairs Chikao Kawai met Chinese officials, including his counterpart, Zhang Zhijun, in Shanghai over the weekend to discuss the Diaoyu Islands,Japanese media said on Wednesday.

Kyodo News reported that the two nations agreed to "enhance communication".

"I am aware of the reports," Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Osamu Fujimura said at a regular news conference in Tokyo.

"That was part of the communication going on between Japan and China in various forms and at various levels. It just shows we are in constant contact at many levels."

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said on Wednesday in Beijing that the countries hadalways been in contact, especially over the Diaoyu Islands.

Relations plunged after the Japanese government "purchased" the islands from a Japanese "owner" last month, triggering massive protests and calls to boycott Japanese products acrossChina.

Yang Bojiang, a professor of Japanese studies at the University of International Relations in Beijing, said Tokyo always denied there was a territorial dispute, but recent pressure from the political arena and the general public may have resulted in a shift.

Yang warned that Tokyo, even as it takes a diplomatic route, has not given up military preparations.

The Japanese Coast Guard and Maritime Self-Defense Force on Wednesday held a joint drillto track "suspicious vessels", a move Japanese newspaper Sankei Shimbun said was aimed at patrols of Chinese vessels in the waters off the Diaoyu Islands.

Japanese business leaders called on the two countries to solve the dispute.

Hiromasa Yonekura, chairman of the Japan Business Federation, on Wednesday warned that ties "have begun to show the deep impact in business operations as well as the economy".

During a speech in Sapporo, Japan, Yonekura said "communication so far between Japan and China is far from enough", and both countries should use calm, diplomatic means to improveties.

Japan’s economy has suffered the consequences of the dispute.

Exports to China witnessed a monthly slump of 14.1 percent in September, Japan’s Ministry ofFinance said on Monday.

Observers said around half of Japan’s exports depend on cars, but vehicle exports to China in September suffered an annual drop of 44.5 percent.

China is Japan’s largest trade partner while Japan is China’s third-largest trade partner.

Bilateral trade in 2011 passed $340 billion, and Japan’s exports to China are two times thoseto the United States.

"The deteriorating relationships with China could prove to be a major blow to the Japanese economy," Ryutaro Kono, chief economist at BNP Paribas in Tokyo, told Dow Jones Newswires.

"If this problem continues into early next year ... an economic recession would be unavoidable" in Japan, he said.

Jin Baisong, a researcher with the Chinese Academy of International Trade and EconomicCooperation under the Ministry of Commerce, said latest economic figures from Japan showed that the row with China has hit its economy hard.

Contact the writers at zhangyunbi@chinadaily.com.cn and wujiao@chinadaily.com.cn

AFP contributed to this story.



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This post was edited by sansukong at 2012-10-25 23:57

China confirms ships patrolling Diaoyu Islands      

Updated: 2012-10-25 13:18 ( Xinhua)


BEIJING - A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman confirmed on Thursday that Chinese maritime surveillance ships had entered the 12-nautical-mile zone around the Diaoyu Islands.

Hong Lei made the remarks in response to a question after media reports had said a fleet ofChina's maritime surveillance vessels entered the zone on Thursday.

"The Chinese maritime surveillance vessels conducted routine patrols in the territorial waters around China's Diaoyu Islands to safeguard the country's sovereignty on Oct 25," Hong said,adding that it was a normal activity for the Chinese surveillance ships to exercise jurisdiction over the waters.

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CHINA IS STILL AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO NEGOTIATIONS OR TO WAR - BECAUSE IT DOES NOT OCCUPY DIAOYUDAO AT THE BEGINNING OF EITHER THE TALKS OR THE FIGHT.

China cannot get anywhere in any kind of talks if it allows Japan to occupy Diaoyudao while the talks are dragging on. First of all, why should Japan wish for a change in such a status quo?  Secondly, how can China achieve this eviction of the Japanese without being the first to start the war?  If China does nothing, Diaoyu remains under Japanese jurisdiction.  If China does something, China gets blamed for the conflict.  

The answer to this dilemma is, "What does China then have to lose by taking over Diaoyudao?"  Nothing more than what she would have lost if she did not.  Therefore, Land on Diaoyudao!

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CHINA IS STILL AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO NEGOTIATIONS OR TO WAR - BECAUSE IT DOES NOT OCCUP ...
"What does China then have to lose by taking over Diaoyudao?"  Nothing more than what she would have lost if she did not.  Therefore, Land on Diaoyudao!
BEIJING - A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman confirmed on Thursday that Chinese maritime surveillance ships had entered the 12-nautical-mile zone around the Diaoyu Islands.
Simply put ..... It is just not good enough!!!  A 12 nautical mile from the island is not on the island itself!  
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