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无耻的结局   [Copy link] 中文

Post time 2012-10-15 07:14:46 |Display all floors
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Writer's real name is Lau Guan Kim.  lau_guan_kim is for commentary and analysis. He writes also under another alter ego jinseng. I will respond to good reasoned debate. Mudslingers shall be ignored. What I do not like are ignorance, stupidity, chauvinism and bigotry. The other party has as much right as I have until it resorts to insults and nuisance.

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Post time 2012-10-15 08:22:11 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-10-15 08:23

CORRUPTION PLAYED THE BIGGEST ROLE IN CHINA'S LOSS OF SOVEREIGNTY

Very true, and many of them were responsible for the strait that China is now in.  The Opium Trade did its damage, but it was the selling out of the Beiyang navy and army that were totally defeated by the Japanese with the cooperation of their commanders that opened the gateway for all other countries to enter into China.  China was on sale at that time.  Even Russia had records of Li Hongzhang asking for bribes to espouse certain positions against other countries.  In short, China was being sold like it was as good as butchered.  It was corruption that destroyed China, and the destruction came from within first, before the foreign armies made their deals permanent by actual occupation of Chinese territories   Even after the fall of the Manchu regime, the selling out of China by the Beiyang clique, from 1912 to 1928, continued relentlessly.  Thus in 1919, the Beiyang government (then the offiicial government of the moribund Republic of China) agreed to transfer German's concession in Shandong to the Japanese government without telling the rest of the people, leading to the May Fourth Movement.

Modern history has certain blacked out eras, among which is the so-called Warlords Era, which in reality was the Beiyang Regime from 1912-1928.  These Beiyang generals were successful in blaming the fall of the Manchu regime entirely on the excesses of the Dowager Empress, which while true was not sufficient to cause China to fail in battle after battle against first the Japanese, and then everyone else.  The Beiyang generals, like Yuan Shikai, who became actually the first president of the Republic of China, were the bigger cause of China's military defeats, because they stole the money used to build up their forces, and when the enemies came, their troops were left essentially to fend for themselves.  They even sent the most loyal troops to the frontline, to be surrounded and massacred, so that there would be nobody back at home to expose their corruption.  The corruption of the Manchu regime exceeded everything we know of in Chinese history.  It was a wholesale selling out of Chinese territories to the highest foreign bidder.  In the end, they decided to let go of their puppet Puyi Emperor who is too destitute himself to line their pockets in any way, and thus sided with the Sun Yatsen revolutionaries.  Even so, the Beiyang generals immediately tried to take over the Republic of China, and continue their selling off of pieces of China as they did during the Manchu era.

Without knowing the history of the Beiyang treasonous clique, China will never understand why she was weakened so dramatically toward the end of the 19th century, and why she can be weakened again in similar fashion in the future.  Corruption of the Manchu government at the central and lower levels was so rampant that China had no chance of surviving without the Xinhai revolution led by Sun Yatsen.

The best way to prevent this from happening again is to be vigilant before it starts to happen today.  Diplomats should be shielded from situations where they can be bribed or blackmailed.  We will never know why Chiang persistently refused to attack the Japanese from 1931-1937, maybe the Japanese know something about him when he was there as an exchange student in their military school that we will never know.  These underhanded ways are par for the course in the way Imperial Japan forced China to its knees.  Were it not for the people themselves who refused to bow to the Japanese katana, the Beiyang generals and then the Wang Jingwei clique would have turned over China to Japan, just as the Korean traitor, Lee Wanyong, turned over Korea to the Japanese in 1915.

This was and will remain China's biggest weakness in its dealings abroad.  History is replete with sellouts of their country, like Qin Gui of the Sung Dynasty, and Wu Sangui of the late Ming Dynasty.  If there is anything about empires that one should learn from history, it is that corruption destroys even the strongest empire, particularly if perpetrated purposefully by a hostile country using its national wealth as its weapon of corruption.  Having said that, we cannot be suspicious about everybody who has dealings with foreign entities.  That would be impossible.  But care and caution can still be exercised before, during and after such dealings to ensure that the country is not being sold out to foreigners.  And this is important if we are to trust those who have dealings with other countries.

Foreign dealings - Prevention of corruption = Honest deals.

Without the preventative aspect, there is no way to guarantee deals are being made in good faith for the good of the country.



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Post time 2012-10-16 06:37:48 |Display all floors
This post was edited by sansukong at 2012-10-16 15:31
abramicus Post time: 2012-10-14 12:31
JAPAN'S WAR ON CHINA IS BASED ON MILITARY AND NON-MILITARY MEANS, MISTAKEN BY CHINA AND THE WORLD AS ...
If China and Taiwan allows Japan to continue to occupy Diaoyu under any pretext of "peace is better than war" or "China needs time to earn more money" etc., then it is a matter of time before encouraged by Japanese aggression, other countries needing free labor, and free natural resources, will coalesce to invade China as a group, as in the Eight Powers invasion of China, and this time, they will make sure the Sick Man of Asia will be cut into pieces, never to rise again.

Looks like the strangle-hold on China has been quite successfully applied around the necks of the present Chinese leadership. What is left for Japan to do is to add pressure to the strangle-hold, a little bit at a time and that would make China to return to be, the "Sick Man of Asia" once again; just as the philosopher, George Santayana had put it :


“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”



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Post time 2012-10-16 12:37:05 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-10-16 12:39
sansukong Post time: 2012-10-16 06:37
Looks like the strangle-hold on China has been quite successfully applied around the necks of the  ...
SURVIVAL IS MORE GLORIOUS THAN GETTING RICH

THE CRIMES OF THE BEIYANG CLIQUE FROM THE MANCHU ERA TO THE ERA OF THE REPUBLIC HAVE BEEN SO THOROUGHLY PURGED AND WHITEWASHED THAT THE AVERAGE CHINESE HISTORIAN, LET ALONE LAYMAN, HAS NO IDEA HOW CHINA, THAT WAS REGARDED AS SUPERIOR MILITARILY TO JAPAN IN 1894, AND HAVING RECOVERED TO A LARGE EXTENT FROM THE OPIUM WARS BY THAT TIME (THE BRITISH EASH INDIA COMPANY HAD BEEN DISBANDED BY THAT TIME), COULD LOSE BATTLE AFTER BATTLE, ARMY AND NAVY, AND THEN CONCLUDE AN ASTOUNDINGLY INSANE DEAL CALLED THE TREAY OF SHIMONOSEKI IN 1895, BY THE ARCH-TRAITOR, HANDPICKED BY THE JAPANESE BY DEMAND, TO NEGOTIATE AS A PLENIPOTENTIARY ON BEHALF OF CHINA, GIVING UP -- KOREA, TAIWAN, PESCADORES, PART OF LIAOTUNG PENINSULA, AND REPARATIONS OF 200 MILLION TAELS OF SILVER -- PLUS GRANT JAPAN "MOST FAVORED NATION" STATUS FOR TRADE IN ALL OF CHINA.  ONLY A TRAITOR COULD HAVE NEGOTIATED SUCH A DEAL!  AND THE CHINESE PUBLIC ALREADY FORGOT IN LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS WHO WAS THAT TRAITOR, WHAT HE DID, AND HOW HE SOLD THEM OUT TO THE TENTH GENERATION!  

HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A SUCCESSFUL COVER-UP OF SUCH A MAJOR TREASON.  NO WONDER THE MODERN CHINESE CIVILIAN IS NOT EQUIPPED TO GRASP THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPLICATIONS OF JAPAN'S ABROGATION OF THE POTSDAM PROCLAMATION, AND ITS INSISTENCE ON RETURNING TO THE STATUS QUO ANTE OF 1895, THE BEGINNING OF ITS MASSIVE CORRUPTION AND QUARTERING OF CHINA, ANESTHETIZED BY ITS OWN CHIEF MINISTER AND GENERAL, LI HONGZHANG.

JAPAN IS REPLAYING THE OPIUMIZATION OF MANCHU CHINA ON THE PRESENT CHINA, AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW IT IS JUST A REPLAY OF WHAT JAPAN DID TO CHINA.  ONLY AFTER THE REST OF THE WORLD SAW HOW DEEPLY ANESTHETIZED CHINA WAS BY CORRUPTION -- THE OPIATE OF THE MANDARINS -- DID THEY ALL COME LIKE VULTURES TO FEAST ON THE NEARLY DEAD "SICK MAN OF ASIA".  SUN YATSEN'S GREATNESS WAS NOT THAT HE WAS A GREAT GENERAL LEADING A WEAK COUNTRY TOWARDS INTERNATIONAL GLORY.  SUN YATSEN'S GREATNESS WAS THAT HE GAVE LIFE BACK TO AN ESSENTIALLY DEAD CHINA, AND GAVE IT ANOTHER LIFE, THE LIFE THAT THE PRESENT CHINESE REVELING IN NEWFOUND WEALTH DID NOT REALIZE WAS SO CLOSE TO HAVING BEEN SNUFFED OUT BY THEIR JAPANESE NEIGHBOR.  LIFE IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SUCCESS.  SURVIVAL IS MORE GLORIOUS THAN GETTING RICH.  SUN YATSEN SHOULD BE OUR HERO, ANYDAY.





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Post time 2012-10-17 03:55:16 |Display all floors

RE: 无耻的结局

Historical facts show Diaoyu Islands belong to China: Kenyan paper

Xinhua | 2012-10-15 19:27:22
By Agencies

Indisputable historical records showed the Diaoyu Islands had been an inherent part of the Chinese territory since time immemorial, Kenyan daily The People said Sunday.

"There is every legal basis to support this claim," the paper said in a signed article under the heading, "Who between China and Japan really owns the Diaoyu Islands?"

"Historically, the Diaoyu Island and its affiliated islets had been part of the Chinese territory until 1895, when Japan illegally seized them," the article said.

"Historical evidence also shows that the Diaoyu Island and its adjacent islets were first discovered, named, exploited and developed by the Chinese people. Chinese merchants and fishermen from the coastal regions of Southeast China had used the Diaoyu Islands as navigation markers even before the 15th Century," it said.

"The islands have appeared on China's map since the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), more than 400 years before Japan claimed the discovery of the islands in 1884," the article said.

The paper further noted, "Until recently, none of Japan's official historical accounts, national records or academic papers had ever challenged China's territorial sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands."

China insisted on resolving the dispute through diplomatic negotiations based on facts, while Japan seemed hell-bent on pursuing a unilateral method, the article said, adding, "Japan's seemingly hardline stance has severely complicated the prospects of a peaceful settlement to the matter."

The article said observers and analysts had pointed out Japan's economic interests and politicians' personal ambitions were the root cause of the renewed territorial dispute.

"The Japanese ocean exploration strategy is at the core of the escalating tensions between Japan and her neighbors. Japan has sped up its pace of exploring ocean resources in recent years, especially after Yoshihiko (Noda) became Prime Minister. The PM has stressed that Japan's top strategy for reinvigorating his country's economy is exploitation of the ocean," the article said.

Japan's so-called "purchase" of the Diaoyu Islands was "an act of extreme provocation," the paper said. "Such daredevil games can only intensify tensions over the islands and damage the development of economic and trade relations between Japan and China."



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Post time 2012-10-17 08:12:09 |Display all floors
THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING.  A TIME FOR PEACE.  AND A TIME FOR WAR.

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Post time 2012-10-17 10:39:23 |Display all floors
This post was edited by ktbond at 2012-10-17 10:40
abramicus Post time: 2012-10-17 08:12
THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING.  A TIME FOR PEACE.  AND A TIME FOR WAR.

Indeed.

However I would urge you to consider the fact that the PRC leaders ARE in the most advantageous position to decide when the best time for war should be - they have access to info that ordinary citizens do not.... i.e. they can see the big picture better than most.

It would appear that they think this is a time for keeping cool...

A war between China and Japan now can only benefit the FUKUS / WEST.

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