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Post time 2012-9-26 16:32:40 |Display all floors
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On the sidelines of the UN Assembly meeting, Chinese foreign minister Yang told the Japanese FM that Japan must face reality and return to the path of peace.  Indeed, Japan must take all responsibility and losses from its violation of the past entente regarding shelving the dispute over sovereignty.  Now that Japan has openly challenged China's sovereignty and asserted its own sovereignty over Diaoyu, there is no returning to the entente of shelving the dispute, that has been irrevocably shattered by Japan's "nationalization" of Diaoyu island.  The only thing that Japan can return to is the reality that China's sovereignty is no longer negotiable, and what is left on the table is the sharing of the marine and mineral resources of the island.  Japan should give up on its illusion of renegotiating its privilege to exercise jurisdiction over Diaoyutai, in exchange for both countries not mentioning sovereignty.  China's sovereignty is no longer negotiable.  This is the political cost Japan has incurred by its own actions.

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Post time 2012-9-27 11:08:55 |Display all floors

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Now that Japan has openly challenged China's sovereignty and asserted its own sovereignty over Diaoyu, there is no returning to the entente of shelving the dispute, that has been irrevocably shattered by Japan's "nationalization" of Diaoyu island.  The only thing that Japan can return to is the reality that China's sovereignty is no longer negotiable, and what is left on the table is the sharing of the marine and mineral resources of the island.

How could China assert absolute sovereignity over the Dioayu Islands and that " the reality that China's sovereignty is no longer negotiable," but yet for Japan "what is left on the table is the sharing of the marine and mineral resources of the island."  

Don't you think the statement above is self-contradicting?  

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Post time 2012-9-27 12:36:13 |Display all floors
sansukong Post time: 2012-9-27 11:08
How could China assert absolute sovereignity over the Dioayu Islands and that " the rea ...

Sharing of marine and mineral resources is quite common among neighboring countries who agree on specific projects where they both invest in projects that require capital or technology that neither can supply alone.  All such negotiations are based on win-win outcomes.  There is no reason why China cannot do this with any country, even if it is not a neighbor.  What makes you object to a deal where China retains ownership and partners with other countries in developing the resources?

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abramicus Post time: 2012-9-27 11:36
Sharing of marine and mineral resources is quite common among neighboring countries who agree on s ...
What makes you object to a deal where China retains ownership and partners with other countries in developing the resources?

Let's use this analogy. "J" claims that "C's" house is his. After "C" has successfully proven that he is the legal owner of the house, "J" now claims to want an equal share of all the food in the frige in "C's" house. What say you? This is not the case of one party being invited to partake in the explorations of one's natural resources for mutual  benefits. There isn't a "win-win" scenario right from the beginning of the Dioayu Islands dispute.... just as a woman who cannot be half-prenant!



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Post time 2012-9-28 00:47:52 |Display all floors
Taiwan is closer to the islands with Japan coming second best in terms of distance, and China being very VERY far from them.
Japan had a factory on the islands for many years, which was the only buildings on the island for the past 100 years.
What does China have? Old maps and lots of propaganda? Ok ok, there's a case for China too, but it's relatively weak.


Anyway, all of the above do not matter. The best solution for the people of all countries involved would be a "share it" solution. Any other solution is a "lets use this so that we distract our people from other issues which are of greater importance to them and as an excuse to make our countries more warmongering" that benefits only the governments and not the people.

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Post time 2012-9-28 06:49:20 |Display all floors
Eudaimonia Post time: 2012-9-28 00:47
Taiwan is closer to the islands with Japan coming second best in terms of distance, and China being  ...

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