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The Chinese People Must Directly Take Ownership of Their Beloved Diaoyutai. [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2012-9-23 03:30:51 |Display all floors
zhonghua1 Post time: 2012-9-22 09:53
We should land some Chinese soldiers on Diao Yu,  that would force the Chinese leaders to increase m ...

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Post time 2012-9-23 03:44:46 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-9-23 03:46

CITIZENS ACTION IS WHAT CHINA NEEDS TO ESTABLISH ITS SOVEREIGNTY OVER DIAOYU ISLAND.

Let hundreds to thousands of peaceful citizens of both sides of the strait, from Taiwan, Hongkong and the Mainland, land on Diaoyu island.  Make sure the weather will be good for the next five days or more.  Provide them with life-vests and safety rafts.  Others may need small motor boats and ramps.  Flags too, yes both of the PRC and the ROC.  Food, water, emergency care should all be meticulously planned.  And gather there all at once by the thousands.  And land Chinese police with the protesters on the island.  The Japanese "police" should be arrested on the spot for illegal trespassing, and handcuffed if they start to rush or hurt the Chinese protesters.  

However, the protesters should be screened by their organizers to be dependable citizens who promise to always refrain from any violence toward the Japanese unless in self-defense.  They are going to represent the Chinese people.  China and Taiwan cannot afford to have people with poor self-control representing them at this most talked about world stage.  Self-restraint should be drummed into their heads, before, during and after they land on the island.

Place a monument of Confucius on the island at its highest point.  Confucius is Chinese, whom both sides can accept.  His presence on Diaoyutai symbolizes the island belongs to the Chinese people of both sides of the strait.

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Post time 2012-9-23 10:50:06 |Display all floors
"JAPAN SHOULD REMOVE ALL ITS FLAGS AND MONUMENTS FROM DIAOYU AND TAKE THEM BACK TO JAPAN."

This should be China's message to the Japanese government.  This gives Japan the chance to take  them to home in an orderly manner.  Failure to do so after 24 hours means China will not be responsible for how they are disposed of by the Chinese navy or the arriving fishermen, tourists and activists.  

Likewise, Japan will have only 24 hours to take their policemen and coast thugs out of Diaoyu back to Japan's mainland.  Otherwise, they will be arrested for trespassing.

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Post time 2012-9-23 12:41:33 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-9-23 12:44

Japan Has Received Enough Warnings to Bring Home Its "olicemen" from China's Diaoyu Island

China has repeated its warnings diplomatically over and over again, that Japan should desist from violating the sovereignty of China, and should take practical steps to correct its mistakes.

Both warnings have been ignored by the Japanese national and local governments.  Both warnings have received only an insolent reiteration of Japan's fallacious claim of sovereignty and a promise that Japan will use its Self "Defense" Force to steal Diaoyu from China's bosom.  These warnings have been published in all the major papers around the world.  Japan cannot claim it was ignorant of its mistake, or that it did not have enough time to climb down on its own from its high horse of invading Diaoyu by force.  

China's peaceful approach to the defense of its sovereignty over Diaoyu has simply been totally trampled over by the Japanese Nazi-Fascist regime, and China's tolerance and self-restraint have been completely exhausted by Japan's repeated trespassing of Chinese sovereign territory.  {:soso_e130:}

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Post time 2012-9-24 01:14:33 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-9-24 01:41

REPORTEDLY CHINA IS GOING TO PROCEED WITH A CELEBRATION OF 40 YEARS OF SINO-JAPANESE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2012.

Since this relationship is about to die an unnatural death from the blows of the Japanese Nazi regime taking over Diaoyu, China should wear the traditional white gowns for funerals if any of the rightwing government officials should go there, or just cancel the whole charade and take over Diaoyu directly, which is far more important than this totally meaningless ceremony.

An alternative is for the commemorative event to have a limited list of invitees from Japan, who were truly instrumental in establishing friendly relations between the two countries, but not a blanket invitation to the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affiars to send whomever it wants.  That would not sit well with the majority of the Chinese people, and may have bad repercussions for the government.  It allows the Japanese government to split the Chinese public into two parts whereas it used to be one united force -- one part that favors letting the Japanese officials to come, and other that favors postponing indefinitely any such celebrations until the Diaoyu dispute is resolved or the Japanese government made some meaninful concessions.  

So, why are the Pro-Japanese elements in China allowed to split the public opinion of China?  Why are they allowed to also create a feeling of distrust and discontent of the public against their own government over appeasement of Japanese government?  Would they do this if Shandong is again invaded by Japan?  Why would they do it now when Diaoyu/Taiwan is again invaded by Japanese policemen and coast guards?  Japan and China are now in  a de facto state of war, since Japan has landed government officials on Diaoyu island, armed and ready to eject any Chinese citizen daring to step foot on Diaoyu, right?   A private commemoration with only the truly friendly Japanese (and there are lots of them), hopefully filling up an entire auditorium, would be much more meaningful and appropriate.

Finally, is this not proof to the international community that China is officially acquiescing to the status quo of Japanese occupation and exercise of jurisdiction over its Diaoyu islands?  If not, why cannot an alternate event, such as a meeting between the original architects of the diplomatic relationship between the two countries, substitute for an invitation to the current government of Japan?  It is important to answer these questions or there could be a backlash from the public if Japan hardens its position even more and refuses to budge.  Do these architects of the last anniversary of Sino-Japanese diplomatic relations intend to bring down the Chinese government through public discontent instead of booting out the Japanese intruders from Diaoyu through public resolve?  How much appeasement before it is a de facto surrender?  Tread carefully.

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Post time 2012-9-24 02:49:09 |Display all floors
JAPANESE DIPLOMACY CAN BE EQUATED WITH DUPLICITY UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE

Diplomacy and peace talks from the historical perspective of how Japan has used them previously, can be safely considered duplicity until proven otherwise.

Over and over again, Japan uses peace talks, offers of peace from its main offices in Tokyo, or through envoys, to split the opinion of the top level leadership, of the middle level diplomats, and of the public, by example (like the Ishiwara vs Noda farce), by words (Noda says he wants to continue good relations with China while insisting he wants to nationalize China's sovereign territory of Diaoyu island), by deed (holding military exercises on how to retake Diaoyu, by ramming Chinese fishing boats, by arresting Chinese activists on Diaoyu, and by stationing Japanese policemen and coast thugs on Diaoyu).  Then, the question is raised inside China as to "How should we deal with it?"  Invariably, there will be differences of opinion, as to the risks, benefits or alternatives.  So far, all seems fine.  But then, some issues cannot be answered logically based on existing known facts.  These become dividing lines in the unity of response of the leadership, the cadre, or the public, weaking the force of the correct response which is now competing wth a number of false moves for the manpower and resources of China.

The second use of its peace talks and diplomacy is to establish channels with specific susceptible individuals in the Chinese government, on a buddy-buddy basis, first to faciliate access to higher ups, and next to faciliate agreement by the higher ups on the proposals of the Japanese.  There is only a fine line between the two, transition through which can be accelerated by favors, personal, sexual or monetary, which can easily be masked and hidden from other levels of government.  Thus, especially one-on-one private meetings between Japanese and Chinese officials should be banned, and if allowed for extreme reasons, monitored and recorded for group review, not just once, but for all times.  Bribery is endemic amongst the pirates of Senkaku, and this is not a speculative worry, but based on historical facts.

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Post time 2012-9-25 12:47:48 |Display all floors
Kbay Post time: 2012-9-24 17:53
Chinese patrol boats should start arresting ultra-right wing Japs landing on the Daioyu Islands.
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Agree.  It is time to do unto the Japs what they have done to us.

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