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Post time 2012-7-11 08:53:16 |Display all floors
I have just finished reading a post by Cjamesyee about the increasing number of Muslims in the USA, it was an insightful read and one thing that seperates it from many of the posts about the USA on this forum is that it does not contain the usual diatribe of blind hatred that permeates many other posts.

It raises a question within me. Will humanity ever be a single united people? Is it beyond us to simply get along or is it something that may one day be a reality?

Cjamesyee seems to believe that under Islam it is a possiblity, that if the world is united in faith, then we will be united in purpose.

But what of dissent? What of individual innovation and decision? If our lives are governed by a religion and the rules which are found within its holy book then what freedom over our own fates do we have?

If indeed, it is decided that in order to have peaceful co-existence we must all adhere to the requirements of a faith and that not doing so would result in punishment according to those proscribed by a religious book then what of the cultures and societies of the world that currently do no have the same requirements?

Religion or more precisely faith, seeks to provide an explanation of the Universe through the actions of a greater being, a god.....God to some.

Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniprecient. These are the words used to describe our creator. To cover bases it is also called unknowable.

But if we can never know God, can never understand then do we actually have a purpose? This is akin to saying that we are merely ants in a sandbox, not knowing how or why the land shifts and quakes, why the stars and planets shift in the blackness of the void.

That God, controls all. That "He" is responsible for the diversity of us all and yet allows us as a species to fight based on the most shallow differences in that diversity.  Race, skin colour, language, faith.

Dogs do not fight one another because they are different colours? Are we more primitive in our social habits that a "mere" animal?

It is infuriating for me to see how we bicker and taunt each other, condemn differences of opinion without trying to understand context or reason and above all bleat the same tired statement.

"I am right, you are wrong."

The irony being that no one really knows right or wrong, we are not "God" and are not omnipotent, we only have opinion and context, and a universe that dwarfs us and our self indulgent importance.

Thoughts?

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Post time 2012-7-11 11:00:55 |Display all floors
United

It almost seems that we humans are a pointlessly sophisticated sort of lemming.Mind you I am merely using the stereotype of the lemming to make a point.I don't know for sure if lemmings do in fact charge en masse over cliffs.I don't think I have ever seen one.It seems that we are a Chosen Species.Chosen to bring life on this planet to an end.Equally it appears the Chosen People have been chosen by fate to lead us like the fabled Pied Piper down the primrose path of "progress" to extinction.
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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Post time 2012-7-11 11:12:14 |Display all floors
petera Post time: 2012-7-11 11:00
United

It almost seems that we humans are a pointlessly sophisticated sort of lemming.Mind you I am ...

Thankyou for your response, it is eloquent and yet depressing at the same time.

I find it ironic that the "Chosen" people I believe you are referring to seek not the sanctuary of Eden but instead lay claim to the place where so many have died.

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Post time 2012-7-11 11:45:29 |Display all floors
religion as vehicle of uniting people?
hmmmmm don't think so.

but i do believe people will unite and live in peace.

why not?

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Post time 2012-7-11 13:24:55 |Display all floors
United

I hope I won't be asked to log in again.
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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Post time 2012-7-11 13:36:17 |Display all floors
United

We actually are all now united in one faith.Both major Abrahamic religions,Marxism and Fabian Socialism have been handed to us by our Chosen Masters.All of us profess one or more of these faiths.
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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Post time 2012-7-11 15:47:50 |Display all floors
Well, I'm pretty much an anarchist with agnostic and Gnostic beliefs so I think I am on the wrong planet.

While I understand that there are indeed groups of people on this planet who wield immense power, whether covertly or overtly I do not see them as being our leaders, not in any true sense. They are more like the wasps that paralyse others in order to continue their own agenda while in the process transmitting all sorts of infections and bacterial pathogens to the victims.

That is a rather negative portrayal of the picture I guess.

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