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Is Texas dad who killed man to protect his 5-year-old daughter a criminal?   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2012-6-17 18:03:14 |Display all floors
lebeast Post time: 2012-6-17 17:58
I think of it as cultural and ethical

The ethical part of it is the issue of consent with a min ...

Fair points.

And the problem with pedophiles is you can't really 'fix' them to where they can be truly safe in society.

No amount of therapy can change our sexual orientation.  

The studies done are very discouraging.  

There is a very high rate of repeat offenses.

What are we supposed to do with them?
  
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Post time 2012-6-17 18:05:35 |Display all floors
JFenix Post time: 2012-6-17 20:03
Fair points.

And the problem with pedophiles is you can't really 'fix' them to where they can be  ...
Fair points.

And the problem with pedophiles is you can't really 'fix' them to where they can be truly safe in society.

No amount of therapy can change our sexual orientation.  

The studies done are very discouraging.  

There is a very high rate of repeat offenses.

What are we supposed to do with them?


We can start by scientifically examining the issue

Study the phenomenology of paedophilia

Get inside the mind in a non-partisan manner

Encourage non-predatory behaviours, like masturbation

In the end, offenders must be monitored and sometimes chemically restrained
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Post time 2012-6-17 18:07:31 |Display all floors
but we must be more careful about who we label as offenders

we have an indiscriminate system at present where young adults having sex with older teenagers are subject to the same interventions as true paedophiles (ie sexual urge, fantasy or behaviours regarding pre-pubescent children)
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Post time 2012-6-17 18:11:11 |Display all floors
given advances in time, we may have a biological remedy
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Post time 2012-6-17 18:11:56 |Display all floors
for those that have a pure sexual orientation towards kids

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Post time 2012-6-17 18:15:44 |Display all floors
lebeast Post time: 2012-6-17 18:05
We can start by scientifically examining the issue

Study the phenomenology of paedophilia

There is a lot of research on it and methods used.  We studied this in some of my classes in college.

You have to think of pedophilia as a sexual orientation rather than a true mental illness.  There have been studies done that show even after 20 years of treatment, pedophiles will still get sexually aroused at the thought of children.

They've tried using shocks as a behavior therapy technique.  They would show pictures of children or have them visualize a deviant situation and then shock them if they get 'aroused'.  That doesn't stop it.  

There has probably been more money thrown into research for the treatment of pedophilia than anything else.  Therapy starts in prison and is usually a mandatory part of their release.  

Chemical castration can be a good solution, but it still rely on someone taking a pill everyday.  How feasible is this in the long run?


  
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Post time 2012-6-17 18:16:09 |Display all floors
JFenix Post time: 2012-6-17 19:47
More details have emerged from the case:

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“When emergency medical personnel arrived, Flores’ pants and underwear were down and the man’s genitals were exposed.”


if there was penetration, then there should be DNA on the deceased man's penis, eg blood or secretion

and possibly on the child, or at least evidence of trauma

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