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Author: newyorkerjoe    Time: 2011-10-8 14:14:05     Title: RACISM AGAINST CHINESE-LOOKING NATIVE PEOPLE!

This post was edited by newyorkerjoe at 2012-2-22 05:04





                                                                             





India Ethnic Northeast Minorities Suffering Seviour Racial Discrimination Because of Their Chinese Lookings!


Often in overseas Indians were discriminated. In their own country there are also widespread caste discrimination, religious discrimination and racial discrimination. The most common discrimination is against the minorities, especially toword the northeast people who are like Chinese. They can easily become the discriminated objects.

The northeast India ethnic minorities' color, figure, facial features are related to East Asia and Southeast Asia in terms of their ethnic similarity. Their local folk dressing and traditional dancing are more like Taiwan "Gao shan" people.

Although the Indian capital of Delhi is the leading city in India, but it is the most serious racial discrimination city. According to the CNA interview with spokesman Madhu Chandra of the Delhi volunteer organization "The help center of northeast India", the discrimination and attacks against northeast minorities have been quite frequently, especially the sexual assault towards the women, and it cannot be ignored.

He said that almost every north-east fellow has the same experience. For example, he said, not long ago, a north-east India Naga tribe woman, her husband and children, to visit relatives living in Delhi. A group of local men verbally abused them, and the husband reproached them. After their visit, they found their car had been open to vandalism.

Last week, in the South Campus of University of Delhi, a 19-year-old female student from the northeast province of Manipur, was raped and killed by a 34-year-old neighbour man who broke in her room. A few days later, there was another indecent, a 21-year-old female student from the northeast province of Arunachal Pradesh, was violently molested by a group of male students in Delhi, she almost committed suicide.

Currently in Delhi region, there are 90 to 100 thousand northeastern ethnic residences. Except part of them came here to work as cookers or waiters in the restaurants because of the poverty, most of them are the university students studying in the capital. Compared with common Indians, those students are from high class families in terms of family wealth and status, but they are still being discriminated because of their appearance.

According to Delhi University Student Union of Northeast, northeast students have their own clothing, but even wearing a traditional Indian shawl-ridden big "sari" dress, it is very easy to recognize their northeast nationalities because of their fair skin color that is quite different from the Indian with black coarse skin.

A college girl, named Marngam of the Jawaharlal Nehru National University, who came from Arunachal province, said, she heard indecent obscene language from time to time when walking on the streets in Delhi, they called her "Chinese ***** (Chin*ki)", "Thai Bar (Thapa )" and other vulgar calls, or even being physically touched, and it has almost become part of daily life, she could only try to be patient to accept these.

Mana Mu said that many female students from the Northeast have the same experience. She will not feel safe as long as she left the room or school, whether it is in residential areas, stores or shopping mails. She said that when female students visit friends, in order to avoid danger they will be asked by their friends to live to the next morning if they are unable to reach home before dark.

THe 18-year-old female students Yeshley and Karma of University of Delhi are all from the northern Indian province of Sikkim, also shed that, whether it is to go to school, come back to home, visit friends or even just a few minutes walking for shopping, they are always together, so as to avoid being isolated and helpless when encountered assault. They never go out during night.

Even if the boys in Delhi are also not safe. According to the Jawaharlal Nehru University boy, Mongve said, who from Assam province, he had been blocked by a group of men on the road and they tried to hit him. Fortunately, he escaped in time to avoid attack. He said that he heard indecent obscene comments quite often when sometimes accompanied female students to go out.

Northeast writer Ningreichon said that in Australia, Germany and other countries where racial discrimination exists, at least the government officials and police officers will pay attentions to these issues. But in India, racial discrimination is considered normal, officials are get use to it alreay. When the Police were dealing with the complaints, they accused the victims themselves for their different dress or accent reasons that caused the insults for the victimes.

A 21-year-old female student Chanchan, who from Manny slope northeast province, said the school professors often humiliated her, and asked her to quit school and go home to learn Hindi before she can come back to school. They blamed her as a "foreiger" who should not be treated equally in the Hindi speaking areas, so that she has been very depressed during the study.

Northeast Indians are generally subject to the discrimination that others don't have in the Delhi. The northeast national associations, recently launched protest in Delhi city hall with 300 people. The 70-year-old woman Chief Minister of Delhi Government Shella Dik---- went out and interviewed, but she just casually said that these incidents of racial discrimination cases are just individual behaviors due to mental disorders or behavioral deviation of some people.

The spokesman Madhu Chandra of the Delhi volunteer organization "The help center of northeast India", said that the ethnic minorities in the Northeast in terms of racial discrimination resulting from such long-term trauma, cannot be diluted by so-called deviant behavior of some individuals. He said that this is also the violation of human rights and culture for the ethnic minorities.

He also condemned, although the Indian Constitution and statutes said to protect the rights of ethnic minorities, but because the north-east Indian societies generally considered to be the silent minority ethnic groups, so the Indians themselves who were often discriminated against by foreigners, had found the ethnic northeast minorities as their easy target for retaliation.                                                                                                                                                          -

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Author: newyorkerjoke    Time: 2011-10-8 14:14:06

This post was edited by newyorkerjoke at 2012-7-29 11:44

you know, sometimes when I'm eating lobster with beer, I think about native people
after many jugs of beer, native people look chinese, I think

obviously this means that they are lost tribes from China, which means, their lands belong to China too




Author: ursula638    Time: 2011-10-9 03:51:24




India's North-Eastern States are JUST to gain independence from India.They are not (Middle-Eastern/Persian Gulf/East Africa origin) brown Indians, they are native yellow Asians.British gave them away to India in Colonial era. And several ten millions Indians are already settled there with the help of Indian government; that's several times more than native people population. Its about time the world community needs to pay serious attention, before its way too late.





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Author: ursula638    Time: 2011-10-9 04:16:38     Title: Seven Sister States

The Seven Sister States also called "Paradise Unexplored" is a name given to the contiguous states of Arunachal Pradesh,

Assam, Meghalaya, Manipur, Mizoram, Nagaland and Tripura in northeastern India. These states cover an area of

about 250,000 sq. km. or about 7 percent of India's total area. They had a population of 38.6 million in 2000,

about 3.8 percent of India's total. Although there is great ethnic and religious diversity within the seven states,

they also have similarities in political, social and economic contexts.

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Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2011-10-9 06:51:04

HISTORICALLY, NORTH EAST WAS  AN INDEPENDENT STATE LIKE TODAY'S BHUTAN,


UNTIL BRITISH GAVE IT AWAY TO INDIA AT HER INDEPENDENCE IN 1947.
Author: timbatu    Time: 2011-10-9 07:44:35

I have close interactions with Asian Indians. Yes, they are very racist against ethnic Chinese.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-9 07:46:30     Title: Oh dear, the ignorance and the hypocrisy.

All the types of allegations you level against India can be levelled against China.


China's ethnic majority overwhelms the ethnic minorities in their homelands in East Turkistan and T!bet.

The Tbtn and East Turkistanis are more related to others in the region than the Han Chinese.

At least India is a democracy, quite a contrast to the dictators in Beijing.
Author: magnetic1974    Time: 2011-10-9 12:05:51

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Author: bonjourman    Time: 2011-10-9 12:32:40

Evil British, again!
Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-9 12:58:38

emucentral =

At least India is a democracy

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The proof of India's DEMOCRACY will be when the people of the Seven Sister States are allowed to VOTE for their independence.

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Author: magnetic1974    Time: 2011-10-9 13:05:28

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Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-9 13:31:09     Title: The Seven Sister States of India

The Seven Sister States also called "Paradise Unexplored" is a name given to the contiguous states of Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Meghalaya, Manipur, Mizoram, Nagaland and Tripura in northeastern India.


These states cover an area of about 250,000 sq. km. or about 7 percent of India's total area.


They had a population of 38.6 million in 2000, about 3.8 percent of India's total.


Although there is great ethnic and religious diversity within the seven states, they also have similarities in political, social and economic contexts.


When India became independent from the United Kingdom in 1947, only three states covered the area.


Manipur and Tripura were princely states, while a much larger Assam Province was under direct British rule. Its capital was Dispur.


Four new states were carved out of the original territory of Assam in the decades following independence, in line with the policy of the Indian government of reorganizing the states along ethnic and linguistic lines.


Accordingly, Nagaland became a separate state in 1963, followed by Meghalaya in 1972. Mizoram became a Union Territory in 1972, and achieved statehood - along with Arunachal Pradesh - in 1987.


Except for Assam, where the major languages are Assamese and Bengali, and Tripura, where the major language is Bengali, the region has a predominantly tribal population that speak numerous Tibeto-Burman and Austro-Asiatic languages.


Meitei, the third most spoken language in this region is a Tibeto-Burman language.


Hinduism and Christianity are the predominant religions in this region.


The large and populous states of Assam, Tripura and Manipur remain predominantly Hindu, with a sizeable Muslim minority in Assam.


Through the work of Christian missionaries, Christianity has become the major religion in the states of Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya.


Main industries in the region are tea-based, CRUDE OIL and natural gas, silk, bamboo and handicrafts.


The states are heavily forested and have plentiful rainfall. There are beautiful wildlife sanctuaries, tea-estates and mighty rivers like Brahmaputra.


The region is home to one-horned rhinoceros, elephants and other endangered wildlife.


For security reasons, including inter-tribal tensions, widespread insurgencies, and disputed borders with neighbouring China, there are restrictions on foreigners visiting the area, hampering the development of the potentially profitable tourism industry.


The landlocked Northeastern region of the country comprises seven separate states whose geographical and practical needs of development underscore their need to thrive and work together.


A compact geographical unit, the Northeast is isolated from the rest of India except through the Siliguri Corridor, a slender and vulnerable corridor, flanked by alien territories.


Assam is the gateway through which the sister states are connected to the mainland.


Tripura, a virtual enclave almost surrounded by Bangladesh, strongly depends on Assam.


Nagaland, Meghalaya and Arunachal depend on Assam for their internal communications.


Manipur and Mizoram's contacts with the main body of India are through Assam's Barak Valley.


Raw material requirements also make the states mutually dependent. All rivers in Assam's plains originate in Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland and western Meghalaya.


Manipur's rivers have their sources in Nagaland and Mizoram; the hills also have rich mineral and forest resources.


PETROLEUM is found in the plains.


The plains depend on the hills also on vital questions like flood control. A correct strategy to control floods in the plains calls for soil conservation and afforestation in the hills.


The hills depend on the plains for markets for their produce. They depend on the plains even for food grains because of limited cultivable land in the hills.


To provide a forum for collaboration towards common objectives, the Indian government established the North Eastern Council in 1971.


Each state is represented by its Governor and Chief Minister.


The Council has enabled the Seven Sister States to work together on numerous matters, including the provision of educational facilities and electric supplies to the region.


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Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-9 13:34:30     Title: The Seven Sister States of India have got CRUDE OIL.


Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-9 13:43:23

emucentral =

At least India is a democracy

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dragon8 =

Do the Seven Sister States have elections?

Democracies usually have elections, don't they?

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Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-9 14:15:38

magnetic1974 =

Democrazy is crumbling just like formers USSR communism.

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dragon8 =

There's nothing crazy about democracy.

It's rigged elections that are crazy.

If you want to know about rigged elections, ask an American.

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Author: manoj10    Time: 2011-10-10 01:19:10     Title: newyorkerjoe aka Communistsec, ursula aka paki national

India is not formed for any specific ethnicity, religion or language. India can accommodate all types of people and Paki propaganda are bound to fail.

For those who worry about NE India, look at your own region diversity is everywhere
Author: manoj10    Time: 2011-10-10 01:20:11     Title: Indian security forces saving kids from floods in Nagaland



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Author: truthhurt    Time: 2011-10-10 02:29:45     Title: Nothing new. Anglos always enjoy helping theirself on what is NOT theirs.






       Colonial Master British roaming around the world, helping theirself as they wish, same old same old.

Abundant labour of India (Indian soldiers/servants) were so instrumental in building, sustaining, and protecting centuries long

British Colonial Global Empire (most wealthiest richest empire ever on earth), that these SevenSisterState were obviously

used as a sacrificial lamb, as a  thank-you payback by British to India, obviously so.


As a matter of fact, I always suspect that Master Anglos keep India (w/ a billion population) ON A LONG LEASH for

their future use.






Author: SMITHI    Time: 2011-10-10 04:21:19

Originally posted by timbatu at 2011-10-9 07:44
I have close interactions with Asian Indians. Yes, they are very racist against ethnic Chinese.

Yes , very racist i observed same with Indians that i know.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-10 05:08:14

Originally posted by dragon8 at 2011-10-9 14:58
The proof of India's DEMOCRACY will be when the people of the Seven Sister States are allowed to VOTE for their independence. ...

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Will that be before or after the people of East Turk!stan, Ta!wan, T!bet, Hong Kong and the Ethnic T!beten areas are allowed to vote for their independence ??
Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-10 05:34:39     Title: India has been independent for 64 years

The Indian Independence Act 1947 (10 & 11 Geo 6 c. 30) was as an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that partitioned British India into the two new independent dominions of India and Pakistan.

The Act received the royal assent on 18 July 1947, and the two new countries came into being on 15 August 1947.

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Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-10 05:45:29     Title: India claims to be a democracy

China has never made such a claim.

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Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-10 05:52:46     Title: We must not forget the OIL in the Seven Sister States


Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-10 05:53:07

Originally posted by dragon8 at 2011-10-10 07:45
India claims to be a democracy
China has never made such a claim.

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That's no excuse.

Besides, the whole "People's Republic of ....." implies the people have control, ie democracy.
Author: SonnyMing    Time: 2011-10-10 15:44:30     Title: against racial discrimination

In the world, no one has the right to discriminate others in race\religion\education\poverty etc. Alll the people should work together to wage a warfare to fight against these hateful racists. Everyone is fair on the world.
Author: dragon8    Time: 2011-10-10 23:12:07

After more than 60 years of independence, you cannot continue to blame imperialists for a failed country.

You just have to admit that you are doing something wrong.

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Author: magnetic1974    Time: 2011-10-10 23:26:19

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Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-11 04:21:18

Originally posted by dragon8 at 2011-10-11 01:12
After more than 60 years of independence, you cannot continue to blame imperialists for a failed country.
You just have to admit that you are doing something wrong...

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Quite right, and clearly the totalitarian dictatorship of the CPC is what China is doing wrong.

Originally posted by magnetic1974 at 2011-10-11 01:26
Democrazy is never work out, because India is country that have the largest cast system and don't let's them and they white master  fool you

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India has taken legislative steps to undo the excesses of the caste system, making it illegal to discriminate, and reserving places for the "Dalit" in politics and education.

There are "untouchables" who have been elected to parliament.

In China, however, there is still the class system where those who are members of, or close to, the Communist Party, are favoured over all others.
Author: manoj10    Time: 2011-10-11 06:02:02

Originally posted by magnetic1974 at 2011-10-10 08:56 PM
Democrazy is never work out, because India is country that have the largest cast system and don't let's them and they white master  fool you



Caste system are gradually becoming a thing of past. You serious lack new updates dude. Your last data was updated on 1940 ?  
Author: cjamesyee    Time: 2011-10-11 06:50:16

Originally posted by dragon8 at 2011-10-9 07:58
emucentral =

At least India is a democracy

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The proof of India's DEMOCRACY will be when the people of the Seven Sister States are allowed to VOTE for their independence. ...



WELL SAID.
Author: Anglo777    Time: 2011-10-11 07:03:29     Title: Harvest Time

Originally posted by truthhurt at 2011-10-10 02:29



       Colonial Master British roaming around the world, helping theirself as they wish, same old same old.

Abundant labour of India (Indian soldiers/servants) were so instr ...






My friend,


'You reap what you sow'


It is a cardinal rule.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-11 10:26:37

Originally posted by cjamesyee at 2011-10-11 08:50
WELL SAID.

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Look, you lDlOT fundamentalist, around 13% of India's population are mooslym.
Not too far short of the entire population of mooslym Pakistan, where only a tiny proportion of Pakistan's population are not Mooslym.

Mooslyms are generally safer in democratic India, than they are in Yslamic Pakistan.

Of course mooslyms are better off in India than those poor Bangladeshi mooslyms are in Saudi arabia where their heads are regularly rolling off the chopping block.
Author: nl20051405    Time: 2011-10-11 11:09:47

Do not go to India without permit.
Author: sagaru    Time: 2011-10-11 23:34:38

chinese looking people?   Why are they chinese looking?

1.They don't think of themselves as chinese.

2. Nobody who is non chinese mongoloid claims to be chinese--they go to extreme lenghts to deny any connection, example koreans , japanese Tibetans etc

3. The areas of north east India that you are talking about all agreed to be part of the federation of India when asked--non of them were forced, that is why pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, sri lanka were declared independent. You don't see Indians claiming territorial rights based of history--all of south east asia and major parts of middle east would technically belong to India!  It was only when chinese started instigating problems in these areas by supplying ideology/weapons--something they also do in Nepal(something that is continuing today) as revenge for India providing sanctuary for the Dali Lama and for greedily wanting to claim local resources as part of the great chinese empire.   

4. Chinese are not going to treat them better--look at their track record in other countries, Indonesians rioted, Burmese rioted, Vietnamese rioted etc etc etc why? Because the Chinese traders don't care for the local people, just their resources--even though they look 'chinese'  Ask the Tibetans!

5. North west/central/south Indians are far more racist against each other than North east Indians, until recently most of them had not even known about them.

6. The Indian army battalions which are stationed and fighting Maoist in these areas are mostly made up of LOCAL personnel, IE other 'chinese' looking Indians.

7. Indians would grant them independence if they really wanted, just like they gave Bangladesh to Bangladeshis when they wanted independence and gave large parts of pakistan back after the war even though they had defeated them. Indians believe in freedom--its just that they are convinced the Chinese would invade, just like they invaded Tibet, making the exercise futile. Without a nuclear deterrent these states would be sitting ducks--ask the Tibetans or turkish/Mongolian tribes within modern china, or look at what is happening to traditional Vietnamese territorial rights.  Chinese believe that every Mongoloid nation is chinese and should be governed by chinese, 1900 race ideology, how can Indians and other 'chinese' looking people deal rationally with this sort of mindset?

8. Indian government is trying to compromise while providing all the autonomy that the locals want in self governing--example, Non north east Indians are not allowed to buy local land or travel there without a permit. This is similar to Indian Kashmir--there too is a threat that Pakistanis, joined by the chinese, would invade as soon as the state was given independence. Pakistan has already given as a present parts of  Kashmir that they invaded and stole to China.  

The region is a little bit more complex than--Indians are racist to 'chinese' looking Indians.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-12 04:28:26

Originally posted by sagaru at 2011-10-12 01:34
... The areas of north east India that you are talking about all agreed to be part of the federation of India when asked--non of them were forced, that is why pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, sri lanka were declared independent. You don't see Indians claiming territorial rights based of history--all of south east asia and major parts of middle east would technically belong to India!  It was only when chinese started instigating problems in these areas by supplying ideology/weapons--something they also do in Nepal(something that is continuing today) as revenge for India providing sanctuary for the Dali Lama and for greedily wanting to claim local resources as part of the great chinese empire. ...

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Well said, Sagaru.

Sadly commonsense and the truth mean nothing to the racist sino-nazis who infest this forum and misrepresent the ordinary Chinese.
Author: lobsang    Time: 2011-10-12 10:03:26     Title: the downunder blue bottle

For a blue bottle blinkered up in a Melbourne suburb, who comes on board and lectures the Asians on democracy: it will refresh his memory to visit the museum in the city where he lives, and read the words "White Australia has a Dark history".

Democracy, where? In Asia or Down Under? There aren't many of the natives, the aborigines, left around down under to part take in the great "democratic" institution that he keeps hyping about. Most aborigines have of course been polished off - some through a cruel sport, as only the  Anglos are capable of, called Abx-hunting. The bitterness expressed by the blue bottle against China, arises from the fact that for people of his ilk, there is nothing left to boast about, other than reminisce with sadness the glorious days or yore, but with a changing world order, now having to look toward China to sell their stolen ware (e.g. iron ore) for survival.
Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2011-10-13 08:02:15

Originally posted by ursula638 at 2011-10-9 03:51

And several ten millions Indians are already settled there with the help of Indian government; that's several t

imes more than native people population ...






Similar scenairo played out in neighboring Burma(Myanmar) during British colonialism.

As British placed Burma under India, and with mass immigration, Indian population swelled in Burma,

( 6 millions Indians  vs.  Burma's then 14 million population).
Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-13 11:16:41

Originally posted by lobsang at 2011-10-12 12:03
For a blue bottle blinkered up in a Melbourne suburb, who comes on board and lectures the Asians on democracy: it will refresh his memory to visit the museum in the city where he lives, and read the words "White Australia has a Dark history".

Democracy, where? In Asia or Down Under? There aren't many of the natives, the aborigines, left around down under to part take in the great "democratic" institution that he keeps hyping about. Most aborigines have of course been polished off - some through a cruel sport, as only the  Anglos are capable of, called Abx-hunting...

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Oh dear, Lobskunk raises his ignorant head and mouths off on an issue of which he knows fukk all.
Yep, there were some people who committed crimes against Aboriginals, and many of these people were tried and punished for doing so.
We recognise where bad things were done and try to make amends, quite unlike what's going on in China still today against the Tbtns, the East Turkistanis and so on.
There are plenty of Aboriginals about, quite unlike your stupid, ignorant allegations and the "hunting" was not widespread as you imply, but a criminal act carried out by very few people who were punished where possible.



Originally posted by lobsang at 2011-10-12 12:03
The bitterness expressed by the blue bottle against China, arises from the fact that for people of his ilk, there is nothing left to boast about, other than reminisce with sadness the glorious days or yore, but with a changing world order, now having to look toward China to sell their stolen ware (e.g. iron ore) for survival...

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China's great regret is that it didn't invade and wipe out those in countries whom it now relies upon for resources to supply its irresponsible population policies.
If it were China which colonised Australia, the fate of the Aboriginals would be far worse than what we see today.
Author: lobsang    Time: 2011-10-13 17:02:30

Having regard to their origin, bred in the wastes of animal & humankind,  it is of little surprise that blue bottles are characterized by the stink that they carry, and the abhorrence in which they are held by people with some sense of sanity. Little surprise too the whiff that accompanies their every utterance should stink like the skunk.  It would be dishonoring oneself to come down to a similarly low level of vulgarity.   

Now to address the issues.

The blue bottle says:<< There are plenty of Aboriginals about, ...and the "hunting" was not widespread ...”
By that very statement, the blue bottle admits that there was indeed the hunting of the Aboriginals; only that it was not so widespread.  Its like Hitler saying: ja, we killed the Jews, but we didn't kill them all.  Plenty of Aboriginals around he claims. That certainly was not obvious during my long visit to that country, and this was a specific point to which special attention was paid. The Internet is not one place where one can pull the wool over other people's eyes. Everything can be checked so easily.

The blue bottle then goes on to say
“China's great regret is that it didn't invade and wipe out those in countries whom it now relies upon...”  & “ If it were China which colonised Australia, the fate of the Aboriginals would be far worse than what we see today.”

Both these statements are based on ifs and buts.  Such happenings exist only in the figment of  the blue bottle's imagination. He is attacking China for the crimes which China has never committed, but had indeed been committed by the Anglo Saxons.  Is he worried by the day of reckoning? If indeed there is such a day of reckoning, it wont be the Chinese people to implement the justice. We have a tradition of not going out to rob others. There are however other Asians aggressive enough to take on the  unrepentant racists. I saw some historical remains at New Castle.
Author: lobsang    Time: 2011-10-13 17:12:06     Title: for the blue bottle

Having regard to their origin, bred in the wastes of animal & humankind,  it is of little surprise that blue bottles are characterized by the stink that they carry, and the abhorrence in which they are held by people with some sense of sanity. Little surprise too the whiff that accompanies their every utterance should stink like the skunk.  One would be dishonouring oneself to come down to a similarly low level of vulgarity.   

Now to address the issues.

The blue bottle says:<< There are plenty of Aboriginals about, ...and the "hunting" was not widespread ...”
By that very statement, the blue bottle admits that there was indeed the hunting of the Aboriginals; only that it was not so widespread.  Its like Hitler saying: ja, we killed the Jews, but we didn't kill them all.  Plenty of Aboriginals around he claims. That was not the observation made during a long visit and this was a specific point to which attention was paid.  The Internet is not one place where one can fib. Everything can be so easily checked.

The blue bottle then goes on to say
“China's great regret is that it didn't invade and wipe out those in countries whom it now relies upon...”  & “ If it were China which colonised Australia, the fate of the Aboriginals would be far worse than what we see today.”

Both these statements are based on ifs and buts.  The happenings exist only in the figment of  the blue bottle's imagination. He is attacking China for the crime which China has never committed, but had indeed been committed by the Anglo Saxons.  Is he worried by the day of reckoning? If indeed there is such a day of reckoning, it wont be the Chinese people to carry out the justice. We have a tradition of not going out to rob others. There are other Asians aggressive enough to take on the  unrepentant racist. There were memorials around at NewCastle when we visited the place.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-14 04:44:28

Originally posted by lobsang at 2011-10-13 19:12
The blue bottle says:<< There are plenty of Aboriginals about, ...and the "hunting" was not widespread ...”
By that very statement, the blue bottle admits that there was indeed the hunting of the Aboriginals; only that it was not so widespread. ...

.
What I said was "the hunting was not widespread as you allege", that is very different to the intent of your misquote.

As far as I know, there was one situation in Tasmania where the murder of a number of settlers was followed up by a party of farmers hunting for the native perpetrators.

Quite different from the slanderous intent of a filthy little racist like you.
Author: AmishMike    Time: 2011-10-14 05:27:34

Originally posted by emucentral at 2011-10-12 04:28
Well said, Sagaru.
Sadly commonsense and the truth mean nothing to the racist sino-nazis who infest this forum and misrepresent the ordinary Chinese.




Xuerengui (xuerengui) asked-

[on Chinadaily BBS &raquo; English Study&raquo; Being Abroad 在海外&raquo; Living standard in Australia]

A wealthy middle class professional person in China might make 10,000 USD a year.  An unemployed person in Australia on social welfare gets 10,000USD a year  from the government per year.  A wealthy middle class Chinese family has family car and live in a nice apartment in China.  An unemplyed family in Australia get 25,000USD a year from the government and live in a nice low rent three bedroom house.  They also get free education and free health care and most of them can afford cars.  



Amish Mike answered -



Give It A Thought!


What do you think of all that bountiful and abundant resources that they mine from free pillaged land, and shipping them

off to China, Japan and others?




Author: emucentral    Time: 2011-10-14 06:30:52

Originally posted by AmishMike at 2011-10-14 07:27
A wealthy middle class professional person in China might make 10,000 USD a year.  An unemployed person in Australia on social welfare gets 10,000USD a year  from the government per year.  A wealthy middle class Chinese family has family car and live in a nice apartment in China.  An unemplyed family in Australia get 25,000USD a year from the government and live in a nice low rent three bedroom house.  They also get free education and free health care and most of them can afford cars.  .

.
A few qualifications you might want to consider.

A professional Chinese person might only make USD10,000 because the Chinese currency is deliberately undervalued to give Chinese exporters an unfair advantage.
If the Yuan was allowed to float freely, then the Chinese professional might find their income doubles or triples in US dollar terms.

An unemployed family on the equivalent of USD25,000 in Australia wouldn't be living in anything particularly salubrious, and they are not funded by mining but by people like me who paid nearly USD30,000 in income tax last year.
This has been the case for years, long before the mining boom.
Author: liuyedao    Time: 2011-10-14 23:37:05

Originally posted by emucentral at 2011-10-14 06:30
A professional Chinese person might only make USD10,000 because the Chinese currency is deliberately undervalued to give Chinese exporters an unfair advantage.
If the Yuan was allowed to float freely, then the Chinese professional might find their income doubles or triples in US dollar terms. ...

.
Another show of emucc's stupidity.

How do you comment on a country which easily inflate her own currency by printing money and buying her own bond?
Author: lobsang    Time: 2011-10-16 22:01:33

Originally posted by emucentral at 2011-10-14 04:44

.

As far as I know, there was one situation in Tasmania where  ...


As an unrepentant apologist for the white racists, this annoying blue bottle buzzing around CD's BBS

from down under,  writes: " As far as I know, there was one situation in Tasmania where the murder of a

number of settlers was followed up by a party of farmers hunting for the native perpetrators..."

How desperately he tries to water down the heinous crimes committed by the Anglo Saxon colonialists

against the native Aboringes of Australia when a simple Google search brings to light some of the

glaring facts, which are there for all to read.  I provide below a few short quotes "... from 1816 to

1930, about 200,000 Aborigines were killed by the white settlers; ... arsenic dampers were left on fence

posts, and if an Aboriginal person then goes and borrows that damper to eat, well its his/her fault if they

die - isn't it.  They were not only massacred but the blame for it happening was turned around on the

victim. Aboriginal people shared food which is regarded as being there for all to access. Taking an

apparently abandoned damper off a fence post was not considered a crime in Aboriginal culture. This

cultural difference about what was regarded as stealing and what wasn't, was exploited by some

colonials to lay bait..."

The Neonazis are called that because they are today's apologists for Hitler. The blue bottle is a racist because he postings show him as  an apologist for the racists down under.
Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2012-4-19 17:42:11

truthhurt Post time: 2011-10-10 02:29
Colonial Master British roaming around the world, helping theirself as they wish, same o ...




   Bulls eyes!


   They sure do keep a billion Indians on a very long leash for their future use, just like they had


    done so extensively throughout colonialized world as soldiers and servants.



     In my humble opinion, there's a strong likelyhood sometimes in the future that a billion Indians


    will go face-to -face with a billion Chinese under the mastermind of you-know-who .





Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-4-21 03:48:11

emucentral Post time: 2011-10-9 07:46
All the types of allegations you level against India can be levelled against China.



First time I heard of India is democracy.  Are you sure?!!  Indians are reknown of being unfriendly to Chinese starting off at the British colony era, they would rather be sub-ordinated class by white British and see themselve above other race.  It is sad really.
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-4-21 03:50:30

truthhurt Post time: 2011-10-10 02:29
Colonial Master British roaming around the world, helping theirself as they wish, same o ...



Agreed!

The sad thing is that Indians seem to be happy under White British class system and look down on other race.
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-4-21 03:54:25

emucentral Post time: 2011-10-10 05:08
.
Will that be before or after the people of East Turk!stan, Ta!wan, T!bet, Hong Kong and the Ethni ...



Hong Kong never wants to be independent.    It is the British plot for leaving Hong Kong back in 1997 aimed to want the world think they did.  Hong Kong is going to have full election system for their own in 2017 a democratic system under the China.  
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-4-21 03:56:24

dragon8 Post time: 2011-10-10 05:34
The Indian Independence Act 1947 (10 & 11 Geo 6 c. 30) was as an Act of the Parliament of the United ...



Many Indians I have met in the UK are quite colonalized.  They still believe British people is better then them and they think they are second best in the system, so the rest of the race in the UK, they look down at, not just Chinese.  

Back in many years ago in the UK, Indians here in the UK are very racists towards Chinese community.
Author: FreddyAguilar    Time: 2012-4-21 04:01:15

Some guys here must have been deeply upset about the Indian successful rocket launch.

Author: emucentral    Time: 2012-4-21 19:09:03

starfruit12 Post time: 2012-4-21 05:48
First time I heard of India is democracy.  Are you sure?!!  Indians are reknown of being unfrien ...

India IS a democracy, China is not. It's as simple as that.
If India is not entirely friendly to China, that does not automatically mean it's India's fault.

Maybe China and her aggressive attitude to border issues might be something to consider.

As for the "class system" in Britain, well India has a "class system" far and away more discriminatory than Britains, however India has legislated to remove the discrimination of their Caste system. Britain too treats everyone as equal, officially.

It's China which has the real "class system" in the different attitudes to party cadres versus everyone else.

Look what that corrupt party leader in Chongqing got away with for years !
Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2012-4-21 19:18:38     Title: What a bunch of bulls--t!

This post was edited by chinoamigo at 2012-4-21 21:39
emucentral Post time: 2012-4-21 19:09
India IS a democracy, China is not. It's as simple as that.
If India is not entirely friendly to C ...





Mates,


Speaking of democracy this and that -


only if you practice what you preach,


you'll be coming to stay in this part of Asia-Pacific region,(so-called Australia/NZ) with 3 months tourist visa today,


rather than pillaging & plundering the whole continent and calling it yours {:soso_e120:}.





So why don't you all return to jolly old England and apply for 3 months visa to come visit here, Mr. Democracy?





{:soso_e112:}





Author: emucentral    Time: 2012-4-21 20:08:22

chinoamigo Post time: 2012-4-21 21:18
Mates,

WTF are you on about ?

I live in Australia, I've visited 30 or so countries, but no pillaging or plundering.
Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2012-4-21 20:33:50

This post was edited by chinoamigo at 2012-4-22 06:49


Mates,


Of course, you all may come visit this Asia-Pacific region anytime you want on 3 months tourist visa.



Apply your visa at the embassy of Asia-Pacific United Continent at your beautiful city of London in your so lovely


jolly old England in good old rich Europe.











[ps- dont forget to bring plenty of sunscreen, its quite hot out here, mates]

           




Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2012-4-22 09:25:02

This post was edited by chinoamigo at 2012-4-22 20:46
emucentral Post time: 2012-4-21 19:09
India IS a democracy, China is not. It's as simple as that.
If India is not entirely friendly to C ...





Mate,


speaking of DEMOCRACY.....,


Democracy is a good thing, but who's democracy are you talking about here !



Is that the same dirty old tricky mentality that Westerners have been impregnating and brain-washing


in just about every corner of the world they savaged, as the case for justification of -


- pillage & {:soso_e155:} plunder,


- colonialism,

- colonization & {:soso_e171:} occupation of native land everywhere - now and then,


- on-going thievery of energy & other land-based resources today,
  




[ Imagine a judge or referee giving a highest score to {:soso_e113:} himself !


- is that your culture & history, past and present.]





Have you been practicing what you preach after all these centuries when hundred of

millions of poor souls from countless generations suffered throughout the whole wide world?





Where do you smart guys have all these answers, Mr. Democracy ?   





                         {:soso_e120:}





Author: sunshytman    Time: 2012-4-22 14:52:50

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chinoamigo Post time: 2012-4-22 09:25
Mate,

the poster maryjoemontana read about the strange but potent mind-altering effects of Hanfu

again, I think it is important make sure posters in the forum are aware of the risks





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Author: gregsunson    Time: 2012-4-22 16:04:14

interesting, I was just thinking the same thing
Author: murphyball    Time: 2012-4-22 18:48:20

what he said
Author: Dimitripissant    Time: 2012-4-23 04:53:26

they should put a warning on the label
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-4-23 05:29:12

emucentral Post time: 2012-4-21 19:09
India IS a democracy, China is not. It's as simple as that.
If India is not entirely friendly to C ...



I am talking about the reality of Indians and British attitude toward Chinese and other ethic minorities.

You mentioned about Bo is an irrelevant example to class system.  Please do not joke yourself that Indians and British government do not have corrupted senior governments.  I can give you a lot list of that.  Lately, the British government was discovered to have 'close' relationship with the rich, and there is rumours that some top secret government decisions leaked to the rich.  Was that recently a senior MP in Britain was sacked about the 'rich dinner' arrangement with Cameron and some senior government?!!  Now we are talking about the leader of the UK who can be dinner with if you pay!  
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-4-23 05:31:46

chinoamigo Post time: 2012-4-21 20:33
Mates,



Chinoamigo, you know UK doesn't get on with the rest of Europe.  By the way, who really get on with them?!  Personally, I find Europeans are more friendly and open mind and lesser judgemental than the English.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2012-4-23 19:57:06

starfruit12 Post time: 2012-4-23 07:29
I am talking about the reality of Indians and British attitude toward Chinese and other ethic mi ...

There is corruption in every society, nobody is denying that.

The difference is that in western democracies, like Britain, the process of government is far more open than in China, and the rule of law is supreme, unlike China where it's the rule of the CCP and the law of the jungle.

Look at that corrupt crook Bo, he put many in jail on false charges and stole their money.
That sort of thing is so much harder to do in Western countries with the rule of law.
Author: VonXiLe    Time: 2012-4-27 00:38:33

chinoamigo Post time: 2012-4-22 09:25
Mate,





Democracy and Human Rights



Better Watch Out West Wolves hiding behind democracy and human rights




Ha ha ha!




Author: ConcernCitizen    Time: 2012-4-27 04:03:33

This post was edited by ConcernCitizen at 2012-4-28 07:15

So bad!


Unfortunately this particular thread seems fast becoming  a site for hecker paid cyber thug and control

freak alike!



more about freaks on -


'Control Freaks' on China Daily Forum

http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=719231&fromuid=897156



He he he!   {:soso_e120:}

Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-5-22 03:00:04

emucentral Post time: 2012-4-23 19:57
There is corruption in every society, nobody is denying that.

The difference is that in western d ...



I disagree, it is just China hasn't got a sophistication of covering up corruption as Britain.  David Cameron can be dinned with by getting someone to pay £10,000 or more.  You must be blind or bias to say this is not corruption.  Corruption for small rich group of people can access or influence British politic.  Look at how Rupert got grilled in the UK.  You must be joking about British government is not corrupted.   
Author: emucentral    Time: 2012-5-22 16:21:15

starfruit12 Post time: 2012-5-22 05:00
I disagree, it is just China hasn't got a sophistication of covering up corruption as Britain.   ...

I agree, corruption is not so sophisticated in China.

In civilised western democracies, the laws against corruption and the fact that it's socially unacceptable, means that any corruption has to be done in ways that make it invisible to a society and legal system which rejects corrupt behaviour.

In places like China, corruption does not need to be so sophisticated because it's far more prevalent and "acceptable".

The fact that there is no "rule of law" in China, and that special privileges are granted to government and military officials, beyond those seen in the west, adds to the culture of corruption.
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-5-23 02:45:33

emucentral Post time: 2012-5-22 16:21
I agree, corruption is not so sophisticated in China.

In civilised western democracies, the laws  ...


So we agree that not just China has corruption problem, but it happens in every country.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2012-5-23 16:40:55

starfruit12 Post time: 2012-5-23 04:45
So we agree that not just China has corruption problem, but it happens in every country.

Of course it happens everywhere, it's just that in China it's deadlier and far more blatant and damaging to the interests of the ordinary citizen.
Author: starfruit12    Time: 2012-5-24 04:04:49

emucentral Post time: 2012-5-23 16:40
Of course it happens everywhere, it's just that in China it's deadlier and far more blatant and da ...



Of course, China has to dealt with corruption more seriously like Bo case.  Comparing to the British corruption, it almost can get away with it, no challenge, just get on with it.  Cultural secretary got sacked, and that is all.  No investigation on why the cultural secretary could actually sell the 'special dinner' on behalf of the Cameron.  No media, no one, are challenging Cameron on MP overspending, overclaiming and corruption.  You are telling me Britain is not corrupted?!  You must be quite naive or too bias to admit the truth.
Author: emucentral    Time: 2012-5-24 12:58:01

starfruit12 Post time: 2012-5-24 06:04
Of course, China has to dealt with corruption more seriously like Bo case.  Comparing to the Bri ...

Fund raising dinners with the Prime minister, are just a little bit different to the type of corruption and murder Bo was involved with.

Fund raising dinners are widespread, for charities, businesses and so on.
Political parties do it often and it is accepted, however there are some complex guidelines and that bloke obviously stepped outside them.

No comparison, whatsoever, to the type of corruption infecting China.
Author: barbarianmo    Time: 2012-5-26 06:31:03

Anglo Pirates



They just sailed to Asia Pacific region not too long ago, grabbed a whole continent and

two most beautiful islands;

Now they have become the wealthiest with the highest living standard in Asia Pacific region,

while majority of Asian Pacific islanders are struggling at the bottom.




Author: mistersunson    Time: 2012-5-26 13:26:06

barbarianmo Post time: 2012-5-26 06:31
Anglo Pirates

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Author: gregsunson    Time: 2012-5-26 13:27:52

sounds like a good deal, Mr Wang


Author: maryjoemontana    Time: 2012-5-26 13:30:56

sure does...

mega-face makes kids run in terror, gives them nightmares and PTSD  


Author: janesnfrancisco    Time: 2012-5-26 13:33:35

I've heard of this surgery. I think they gives free counselling for bad haircuts too.
Author: sunshytman    Time: 2012-5-26 13:49:01

hey folks

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say

that's what my family tell me

a big face is a gift from God

just remember, you are worth it! And special too.



Author: s0babe    Time: 2012-5-26 13:49:45

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say

that's what my family tell me



Author: shatdaddy    Time: 2012-5-26 13:50:28

s0babe Post time: 2012-5-26 13:49


Author: barbarianm0    Time: 2012-5-26 13:51:07

s0babe Post time: 2012-5-26 13:49


Author: amishdyke    Time: 2012-5-26 13:57:38

big face is natural

tho some folks says it is a disease as bad as HIV


Author: VonXitLe    Time: 2012-5-26 14:02:05

Beheading is a quick and permanent cure
Author: newjokerjoe    Time: 2012-5-26 14:07:39

here's a textbook case, brothers

a special kind of big face called "pumpkin head"

for obvious reasons







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They have posted over 300 reply posts ( all Personal Attacks) so far.


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Author: ConcernCitizen    Time: 2012-5-27 05:40:24

This post was edited by ConcernCitizen at 2012-5-27 05:40



   Readers Alert !



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They have posted over 300 reply posts ( all Personal Attacks) so far.


[see for your self on their profiles.]


more about freaks on -


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Author: anglo007    Time: 2012-5-27 14:37:55

so moving

I nearly cry with emotions {:soso_e163:}
Author: colourwolf    Time: 2012-5-27 15:02:38

Amazing both how awful the original article is and 5 pages of dumb repiles.

U realise of course that people there dont like either the chinese or the indians , right?  - makes u look kinda retarded
Author: sunshineman    Time: 2012-6-29 07:14:34




Long Live Natives!




Author: MisterLianghui    Time: 2012-7-26 02:55:37

This post was edited by MisterLianghui at 2012-7-26 02:55



The truth is that


a few thousand years ago,


Aryan Indians/Northern Indians came down from Caucas region and defeated the native Mongoloid Asiatic population


in today's India region and supressed them eversince, and the rest is history.




                                                                     





Author: Chechen    Time: 2012-7-29 08:13:19

Dimitripissant Post time: 2012-4-23 04:53
they should put a warning on the label

What are the complaints about??  I don't see anything wrong.
Author: AmishMike    Time: 2012-8-1 06:26:31

ursula638 Post time: 2011-10-9 03:51
India's North-Eastern States are JUST to gain independence from India.They are not (Middle-Easter ...




New York Times on July 28th reported an article about the northeast region of India and  its increased tension between

natives and millions of muslim new comers from Bangaladesh, who are also spilling into Burma and more and more riots in

Arakan state of Myanmar with native Buddhists there.





Author: MrLobster    Time: 2012-8-19 12:38:13

timbatu Post time: 2011-10-9 07:44
I have close interactions with Asian Indians. Yes, they are very racist against ethnic Chinese.

I have close interactions with Chinese beer drinkers and the persecution is extreme and violent
Author: peterpann    Time: 2012-8-30 06:02:56

AmishMike Post time: 2012-8-1 06:26
New York Times on July 28th reported an article about the northeast region of India and  its in ...




Bangladesh is the world's most the most densely populated nation, 200 millions cramped in the area the size of Denmark.




Author: barbarianmo    Time: 2012-9-5 03:41:32

peterpann Post time: 2012-8-30 06:02
Bangladesh is the world's most the most densely populated nation, 200 millions cramped in the a ...




Its all just look 'Arabs invasion deep into Asia' to me.



Author: safaribehn    Time: 2012-9-26 07:21:19

This post was edited by safaribehn at 2012-9-26 00:24
newyorkerjoke Post time: 2011-10-8 07:14
you know, sometimes when I'm eating lobster with beer, I think about native people
after many jugs o ...

Or that China belongs to them... Something must have driven them to the total desperation of crossing the icy Barents Sea land tongue. You simply don't do that unless something nasty is forcing you to. Of course this was long before China, but since they came from Asia it might as well have been from China, and you know what? Someone's got to have had stolen their lands. And back then it weren't us. We were too busy slaughtering Neandertals.

Author: bonjourman    Time: 2012-10-3 05:05:37

barbarianmo Post time: 2012-9-5 03:41
Its all just look 'Arabs invasion deep into Asia' to me.




Arabs 're Cumming.



Author: MisterLianghui    Time: 2012-11-2 06:37:03




WHERE?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!



Author: GustyWind    Time: 2012-11-14 03:57:12




Ursula,


U R only half-right.


Light skin Indians are originally from Southern Caucas region by the Black Sea.



Author: LOVESW    Time: 2012-11-14 08:58:08

India is not a democrocy at all!!!
Author: LOVESW    Time: 2012-11-14 09:00:09

INDIA...




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