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From Spiegel Online

In diplomatic terms, it was the final stroke of the Gadhafi era: At the Libya conference in Paris on Thursday, Western leaders and Libya's new rulers set the course for establishing democracy in Tripoli. Europe and the United States are keen to provide aid, but they are also eyeing business opportunities.

For the past 42 years, Colonel Moammar Gadhafi held an address to his nation every Sept. 1. It's a tradition the Libyan dictator clearly didn't want to give up. The ousted despot sent out an audio message on Thursday from his hiding place that was then broadcast by Syrian satellite channel Arrai.

"We won't surrender again, we are not women, we will keep fighting," Gadhafi said in the message, broadcast on the anniversary of the 1969 revolution that saw him rise to power.

Even if troops loyal to Gadhafi still control a few smaller cities in Libya, few people expressed any fears over the bizarre message. It merely served as a confirmation of the degree to which Gadhafi has lost touch with reality, coming as it did at the same time as the new forces in power in Libya were meeting in Paris with representatives of 63 countries, as well as international organizations, to pave the way for democracy in the desert nation. In Paris, Gadhafi had already become a page in the history books.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron had invited the international community to a conference of the "Friends of Libya" at the presidential Elysee Palace in Paris to officially celebrate the end of the Gadhafi era and to provide backing for the rebels' National Transitional Council.

Patting Each Other On the Back

The two European leaders, whose countries carried the bulk of the burden of the NATO strikes against the regime, didn't miss the opportunity to pat each other on the back for their work on Thursday. Host Sarkozy said they had succeeded in building a coalition that brought both the East and West together. He expressly praised the contributions of Arab countries that included Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan, who all supported the NATO deployment from the start. One day earlier, during a meeting of French ambassadors, Sarkozy described the victory over the Gadhafi regime as a turning point of almost historical dimensions. For Sarkozy, Gadhafi's downfall comes at a good time -- foreign policy is the only area at the moment where the French president is able to announce any positive news.

Aside from the self-praise for the military success, the high-ranking representatives concentrated on the future of a country that has been ravaged by both a dictatorship and war. At the urging of the National Transitional Council, Sarkozy and Cameron both announced that they would free some Libyan foreign accounts that had been frozen. At the start of the conflict, most of the Gadhafi regime's foreign bank accounts were frozen, with access to a total of up to EUR100 billion blocked. That money is now intended to be used to finance the country's reconstruction.

France announced the release of EUR1.5 billion ($2.14 billion), Germany said it would free EUR1 billion and the US opened access to another billion. The British Royal Air Force has already delivered the first new dinar notes to Libya. A British currency printing company had printed the notes, valued at EUR1.1 billion, on behalf of Gadhafi's regime, but the cash had not been delivered following the freezing of Libyan assets.

In addition, German Chancellor Angela Merkel pledged assistance in establishing a new police force. She also said that Germany could aid reconstruction efforts in the areas of water supplies, hospitals and transportation.

Message of Support

Cameron praised the orderly transition that the Libyans have organized so far. But there are still fears that the country could slip into chaos, he added, and called on the new leaders to prevent that from happening. "We cannot afford a failed pariah state on Europe's borders," he said.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged the rebels to ensure that Gadhafi's huge arsenal of weapons could not threaten Libya's neighbors or the rest of the world. She also called on the National Transitional Council to protect the rights of all Libyans, particularly of minorities and women. There have been reports of attacks on black African immigrants suspected of being mercenaries fighting for Gadhafi.

The main message from Paris was, however, one of support: The easing of the sanctions was intended to allow the transitional council to shape its "political direction" and formulate its demands, said French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe. But that will be a huge challenge, given the ongoing fighting, lack of security forces and destroyed infrastructure, not to mention the country's lack of a democratic tradition. An election now has to be organized in a country where no elections have taken place within "living memory," said the UN envoy to Libya, Ian Martin.

The head of the National Transitional Council, Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, laid out a timetable for democratization at the conference. First, a conference would be held including representatives of all the country's tribes, ethnic groups and provinces, he said. It will elect a constitutional convention -- which will write a new constitution for the country -- and a transitional government. The first elections will be held within 18 months. Western leaders promised to support this process by supplying experts. Cameron emphasized that the plan was not "being dropped out of a NATO aeroplane," but had been drawn up by the Libyan people.

The National Transitional Council was also able to win additional powerful allies in Paris. Russia recognized the new rulers as the legitimate representative of the Libyan people. Only the African Union, which had enjoyed Gadhafi's support as a regional patron, is still having difficulty accepting the leaders of the new Libya. South Africa, for example, boycotted the Paris meeting.

Friends with Benefits

But the West's support is not entirely altruistic. Part of the reason for the rapidly increasing number of "friends of Libya" is the prospect of lucrative contracts in the oil-rich country. Ahead of Thursday's meeting, the French daily Libération reported on what it claimed was a secret agreement between France and the rebels. According to the newspaper, the National Transitional Council sent a letter to the emir of Qatar, who is apparently serving as a middleman between Paris and the rebels, in the spring promising France 35 percent of Libya's oil production in return for "its total and permanent support" of the transitional council as the legitimate representative of Libya.

If true, the supposed deal, which the French government and the National Transitional Council promptly denied, would reveal France's lofty humanitarian motives to be nothing more than base petropolitics. But there is other evidence of Paris pursuing oil-related diplomacy. Earlier this summer, French businessmen traveled to Libya to make sure that the contracts concluded under Gadhafi would also be recognized by the rebels. French companies will meet government officials in a closed-door session in Paris next week to discuss possible business opportunities in post-Gadhafi Libya.

The other patrons of the new Libya are biding their time, however. A British delegation, for example, will only travel to the country when the conflict is finally over. Reacting to criticism from London's business community that the country was proceeding too slowly compared with their French and Italian rivals, British Foreign Secretary William Hague assured reporters on Thursday that Britain "won't be left behind."
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Post time 2011-9-2 19:50:00 |Display all floors

And look at what the west has done!

NATO trying to commit mass murder in Libya
25.07.2011


Control room for the miracle in the desert--water
Dishonourable cowards and bully nations of NATO are trying to mass murder Libyans with bombs to solve problems. Actually in the case of Libya, as in others previously, there are no problems, except that the people and/or leadership will not bow to the dictates of the Empire.

I would like to ask those dastardly fools that fly those planes the question: do you know what you're doing? No, you do not. Do you know who you are killing and what you are destroying? No, you do not. Do you know why you are being sent on these missions? No you do not. Have you heard of the Nuremberg Trials?

It seems the countries of the west have forgotten Nuremberg. The main theme was the guilty had committed crimes against peace and crimes against humanity. It also was declared that military personnel cannot use "following orders" as an excuse for their behavior.

Perhaps the pilots should make a note of that and get answers to these questions before another mission is flown. You will be prosecuted for war crimes for killing civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure and for violating international law. NATO is committing crimes against peace and crimes against humanity.

On Friday, July 22nd, some of these mindless war criminals dropped bombs on Libya's vital water pipeline, that supplies water to 70 percent of Libya's population. Since when is a vital necessity for the sustaining of life a legitimate military target? Never!

Those mindless criminals are now going to be the subject of an international search to find their identities so that they may be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

That bombing was an attempt at genocide, nothing less. The human being cannot live without water and no stretch of the imagination is going to excuse this horrendous crime.

If that were not enough, then another bombing mission on the following day hit the factory that makes replacement pipes for the water system. It seems someone wanted to deliberately make sure the water system would stay non-functional.

The U.N.is hereby on notice to lift a ban on importing spare parts so the water supply may be restored. The ill conceived U.N. Security Council resolutions ban imports of many items into Libya. These resolutions were passed under the conditions of fraud and disinformation.

"The Libyan leader Moammar Al Gaddafi informed members of the Security Council in his message that the alliance decided to carry out mass murder against the Libyan people by targeting their only drinking water source, where billions were invested and without it life stops in Libya. He wondered what's the relation between this factory and the protection of civilians that NATO claims it is carrying out?"

The purpose of these bombs is not to "protect civilians" but to cause maximum suffering to the civilian population, which by international law is COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT.

Collective punishment such as what these NATO pilots are guilty of is equal to or worse than anything perpetrated by the Nazis during the war.

The Libyan people have been coming out in the millions, despite the plague in the sky...to demonstrate support for their government, leader and way of life. They will not go quietly into the night to be absorbed by the Empire. Libya and the Libyan people are not for sale.

The terrorist force, when not in-fighting, is weak, demoralized and incompetent. Their head was recently cut off. *"According to press reports on Sunday, Major General Abdel Fattah Younes, head of the rebel forces army in Libya, was killed in the fighting in the Brega area some 10 days ago in what was described as "mysterious circumstances."

This self-appointed terrorist collection known as the National Transitional Council was recognized by some pretentious devil worshipping countries in violation of every international law. They have violated the sovereignty of Libya and the Libyan people.

For their information, power to rule a country comes from the people who live in that country, not some garbage abroad, but enjoy your fantasy while you can, you have recognized nothing but dead men. But you certainly can't tell a bunch of pig headed fascists anything. Beware to those countries and leaders who go along with this farce!

This NATO war against Libya is illegal. It was only supposed to be a no-fly zone and even that was agreed to under false pretenses. Since the entire operation was approved due to false pretenses, it is illegal and must be stopped immediately.

There is no doubt that besides oil, water is a crucial resource particularly in the Middle East, as the 2006 war against Lebanon by Israel was a water grab by Israel. No doubt the fascists would like to seize this wonder of the world under the Sahara desert in Libya.

Unless the people on this planet descend upon their leaders like an avalanche, they will continue to act with gutless cowardice. It must be demonstrated that the wrath of the people will be more terrible than anything the Empire can concoct.

Failing to act, to speak out, is cowardice. There is a moral obligation here to contact one's leaders, to contact the United Nations missions of the various countries, particularly those countries that did not vote in favor of those UN Resolutions so that maybe they might take notice at how costly their cowardice will be for not using the power of the veto.

Demand that NATO be dragged before the UN to answer for its crimes and the flaunting of international law.

Don't ever complain in the future when the law of the jungle decides it's time to eat you alive if you are silent and do nothing now. Stand up for international law or be eaten by lawlessness and the law of the jungle.



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Post time 2011-9-2 22:13:58 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Alex2010 at 2011-9-2 18:52
From Spiegel Online
In diplomatic terms, it was the final stroke of the Gadhafi era: At the Libya conference in Paris on Thursday, Western leaders and Libya's new rulers set the course for estab ...
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QUOTE:  in the spring promising France 35 percent of Libya's oil production in return for "its total and permanent support" of the transitional council as the legitimate representative of Libya.

Yes ...........

France recognized the rebels diplomatically from 10th March, some 10 days before the 'no-fly-zone', a step unprecedented in any diplomacy to date ...........

The open public support even at that early time suggested that France had made some sort of pre-action pact or deal  .............

And would further suggest that the West's problem with Libya was Gaddafi only, and had nothing to do with a negotiated settlement .........

Also note that the nations most reliant on Libyan oil were the ones leading the pack ........

Article to read: Susan Lindauer - Libya - Lockerbie ...........

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Sarkozy described the victory over the Gadhafi regime as a turning point of almost historical dimensions.............."""


a visionary who grabbed the historical moment.
changed history for the better.
changed the world for the better.

a turning point in world history.
the moment Arab and Western world makes peace and gets united.

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Post time 2011-9-2 22:31:11 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Revolutionar at 2011-9-2 22:26
Sarkozy described the victory over the Gadhafi regime as a turning point of almost historical dimensions.............."""
a visionary who grabbed the historical moment.
changed ...
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Yes ...........

35% of the price of oil is not only historical .........

But almost unheard of ..........


Well ........

Of course until now .........   

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