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China need to resist "Chinese army owned by government" theory

Enemies inside of China and outside of China adoptted "splitting Army from Party", "splitting Army from politics", and "Army owned by government" such theories to attack the root principal and system of our "party ruling the Army".

Their ultimate goal is try to split Chinese army from Communist Party of China.  The next  is to overthrow the ruling status of Communist Party of China and to overthrow the socialist system.

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2011-06-20
from Chinese army newspaper
h ttp://news.ifeng.com/mainland/detail_2011_06/20/7116768_1.shtml

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It's a step by step process.

From FACTIONAL government to NATIONAL government.
This is logical step.
Probably CHINA will have UNIQUE SYSTEM.

The King +Army +clan
will be replaced by CCP +Army + Factional Clans.

The Bureaucracy remains "meritocracy" + traditionally controlled by North East Provinces.

THE "ELECTED" Political Exco for Central, Province, City, Town, District, Village!
This will be open to CCP party, KMT party affiliated political parties.
(A 2 party system will generate OPEN DEBATE)

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1. Pary absolutely ruling the army, is root principal and the everlasting spirit of Chinese army
Pary absolutely ruling the army, is the great creation after our party combined Marx theory with Chinese reality.
Party absolutely ruling the army is the prime question of establishment and development of Chinese army.
Chairman Mao said, our principal is that party guide gun and never let gun guide party.
Chairman Deng said, our party need to be loyal to the party, be loyal to the people, be loyal to the country, be loyal to socialist.
Chairman Jiang said, one army need its spirit, the spirit of Chinese army is party absolutely ruling the army.
Now, chairman Hu said, we need to contnue to keep the root principal and system of our "party ruling Chinese army".
These statements deeply clarified that Chinese army need to be under the absolutely ruling of the Party. For the root political principal of "party ruling the army", we need to have a special clear mind, have a special clear attitude, have a special strong resolution.

2011-06-20
from Chinese army newspaper
h ttp://news.ifeng.com/mainland/detail_2011_06/20/7116768_1.shtml
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Originally posted by greendragon at 2011-6-20 13:19
It's a step by step process.
From FACTIONAL government to NATIONAL government.
This is logical step.
Probably CHINA will have UNIQUE SYSTEM.
The King +Army +clan
will be replaced by CCP +Army + Factional Clans.
The Bureaucracy remains "meritocracy" + traditionally controlled by North East Provinces.
THE "ELECTED" Political Exco for Central, Province, City, Town, District, Village!
This will be open to CCP party, KMT party affiliated political parties.
(A 2 party system will generate OPEN DEBATE)

2 party system is absolutely prohibited.
The ultimate goal of such type of theories is to overthrow the ruling status of Communist party of China.
(Please read the original words in official document published by Central government in mainland China.)

Chinese army need to be absolutely ruled by the Communist Party of China.

Only communist Pary of China can save China.

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Party absolutely ruling the army, is rootly decided by the advanced character of Communist Party of China.

Communist Party of China is armed by Marxism; is the pioneer of labor union; is the pioneer of Chinese people and Chinese nation.

90 years ago, China was a half fedual and half colonial society. The national crisis and social crisis were unprecedented heavy. Types of progressive political powers and types of social elites seek to save China and Chinese people. All of them failed to save China and failed to finish the task of fighting imperialism and fedualism.

Only Communist Party of China creatively adopted Marxism to solve Chinese problem; create the right road to realize the liberation of Chinese people; realize a rich and strong nation; renew Chinese nation.

Under the leadership of Communist party of China, China steadily realized the transition from a half fedual and half colonial society to an independent society and a society that Chinese people as the owner, from old republic revolution to socialist revolution and construction, from planned economy to market economy, from closed door to open door policy, GDP greatly improved, people's living greatly improved, global status greatly raised, Chinese nation stand inside the forest of world's nations.

Tested by the practices, the Communist Party of China is the choice of history and the choice of the people.

If there was no communist party of China, there would no New China and no present happy life.

Chinese army, as the loyal guard of Chinese people's interests, must for ever follow the absolutely ruling of the party.


2011-06-20
from Chinese army newspaper
h ttp://news.ifeng.com/mainland/detail_2011_06/20/7116768_1.shtml  


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(I tried to translate each word after each word from Chinese to English.)


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(As Chinese, We had to recite these statements in our junior high schools, high schools, universities....
If we wrote down the wrong choices, we wouldn't pass the exam of the required political courses. of course we wouldn't go on high school study, wouldn't go on university study, wouldn't get the university degree and diploma.)

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China has a UNIQUE system since ancient times!

It's a POWER SHARING system "unique" in the "ANCIENT WORLD".

Power sharing between  

(1) King + Army (of his family, clan or cult)
(2) Bureaucracy (via meritocracy examination but generally dominated by North East Provinces)
(3) Autonomous Provinces (with the the Provinces furthest from the Capital being the MOST autonomous)

It has NOT CHANGE much, only by LABELS.
Culture and Heritage is a "Bit-ch" - Even violent revolution does not change matters.
It's rather INSTITUTIONALIZED!

Currrently, the STATE known as CHINA or New Middle Kingdom is ruled by same manner.

(1) CCP (party of class/region origin) + victorious Army (and the Armed Police Force)
(2) Bureaucracy (no change - except the Police Force is controlled by the "Army"?)
(3) Provincial Autonomy

plus
(4) Chinese Diaspora (all over the world but concentrated in Nanyang, British Commonwealth, European Union - Dutch/France and United States) - Making the British people in particular somewhat FAMILY too! (ha ha ha)
(5) Sino like Societies of Japan, Korea, Thailand and Vietnam.

I know, it's a mess, BUT that's how the situation currrently is!

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Post time 2011-6-21 11:03:30 |Display all floors

Someone has to have the final say

.............and i agree, MIGHT "BE RULE OF THE JUNGLE";

YES, the VICTORIOUS ARMY OF THE CCP - has the FINAL SAY.

But (grim reminder), "Mandate of Heaven" is needed, otherwise as in ancient times, FACTIONAL FORCES sidelined will rebel. China has such a long history, and it's people have Institutionalized, fine tuned various KONGFU, to be able to protect their TURFS.

Now we have to welcome new COMPONENTS to our LARGE FAMILY, like the Riau, Natives of Borneo, Patani and even the British Clans. The British in particular due to their unique CULTURAL PRACTISE (and Heritage) has now got a FINGER IN OUR PIE! (HA HA HA)

China's CORE RULERS has changed many times (from different families -surnames, to even cults -Zen-Shaolin Buddhist to EVEN FOREIGN nomadic army - Mongol, Manchu), If we recalled, even the Japanese Clans tried their hand in taking "power as core rulers in 2nd world war - and of course the British and Soviet Russians attempted to exact "Influence" or "Shadow government kongfu"!

These FACTS we must always REMIND OURSELVES.

Chinese system is one of MERITOCRACY, and BENEVOLENT tyranny!
Moderation is a fact of life in the MIDDLE KINGDOM, that's how such a system could function and in the past created the WEALTHIEST SOCIETY the world has even seen till the advent of the British Empire, American Regime and the defunct Spanish Empire.

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