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In the early 1980s, facing the same threat "the former Soviet Union" clique aggression, the war raised directly by the former Soviet Union in Afghanistan, the war raised by SU's little brother Vietnam, mainland China and US turned from enemy to friend.

In 1990, the events in China and the collapse of the former SU, China and U.S turned into cold relationship again. 1996 crisis in taiwan strait, 1998 embassy in Belgrade, 2001 American warplane in Hainan island in South China Sea.

in 2001, the collapse of World trade center in New York. The relationship turned not good, not bad.

in 2011, the events took place in Arab world. Osama Bin Ladin was killed by U.S. Would another transition come or not?
If came, a positive trend or a negative?
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Gates Urges U.S.-China Focus on Common Interests Instead of Differences

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates told his Chinese counterpart the two countries should seek to improve military relations that lag behind their economic ties, working together more on common interests without letting disputes get in the way.

"In recent months, our two countries have made progress toward rectifying this imbalance by jointly identifying areas of cooperation," Gates told his Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie yesterday at the start of a meeting on the sidelines of the annual IISS Asia Security Summit, the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore.

"As I leave office at the end of this month, I do so believing that our military relationship is on a more positive trajectory," said Gates, who is on his last official visit to Asia before retiring. Gates is due to address the forum today.

Gates's entreaty reflects a U.S. push for constancy in defense ties with leaders in Beijing that were severed multiple times in recent years, over issues such as U.S. arms sales to Taiwan. His positive tone belied tensions over territorial disputes in the South China Sea and California-based Google Inc. (GOOG)'s discovery of an attempted cyber-attack that the company said appeared to originate in China.

Balancing Act
U.S. diplomats are working on "balancing" rather than "containing" China, said Dana Allin, senior fellow for U.S. foreign policy and transatlantic affairs at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, based in London.

"That's part of the diplomatic game that has to be played very skillfully," Allin said.

Both President Barack Obama and China's President Hu Jintao have pressed their militaries to strengthen defense relations.

The U.S. is trying to overcome obstacles and opposition to better ties with China on both sides by zeroing in on topics where they're more likely to make progress, U.S. defense officials said in briefing reporters after the Gates-Liang meeting. Gates cited areas of "common strategic interests" such as piracy, North Korea and disaster relief.

"I also believe that it's important to maintain a dialogue on areas where we disagree so we can have greater clarity about each other's intentions," Gates said.

Liang, in his opening remarks to Gates through an interpreter, said improving military ties was "important" for the leaders of both countries to address. He stressed that "new policies" might be required, without elaborating before reporters were sent out of the room.

High-Level China Presence

Liang's presence at the forum is notable as the first time China was represented at the same level of defense minister that other countries generally send to the 35-nation gathering. He's due to address the forum tomorrow.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak cautioned countries at the forum against trying to make a Cold War-style choice between China and the U.S. China's growing military capacity should not cause "undue alarm," Najib said yesterday.

"Despite rapid increases in Chinese military expenditure, the United States will continue to be by far the pre-eminent military power and by far the biggest spender," he said.

Najib advised treating China "in a very constructive, positive way," saying Chinese leaders would then be more likely to respond in kind.

U.S.-China Meetings

Gates visited Beijing in January after the Chinese ended a freeze on military relations that followed a January 2010 announcement of U.S. arms sale to Taiwan and after American overtures to the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalai Lama.

That visit was followed last month by talks in Washington led by U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and his Chinese counterpart, General Chen Bingde.

Yesterday's hour-long meeting was "productive," and "very cordial," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told reporters.

Gates sought to assure Liang that his nominated successor, Central Intelligence Agency Director Leon Panetta, would continue efforts to solidify more cooperation and communication, Morrell said.

Gates and Liang didn't discuss cyber issues specifically, U.S. defense officials said. Liang did refer to the importance of talks in Washington last month that brought civilian and military officials on both sides together to discuss issues such as cyberspace, a topic that China had suggested, the officials said on condition of anonymity.

Tensions Rise
Tensions also have escalated again in the South China Sea in recent weeks.

China claims most of the South China Sea as its own, dismissing rival claims from Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia. Gates pointedly cited U.S. interests in the area at the same forum last year, followed a month later by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's statement that settling claims was "a leading diplomatic priority" for the U.S.

Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM), Talisman Energy Inc. (TLM) and Forum Energy Plc (FEP) are all planning exploration activities in blocks with Chinese claims.

The Philippines filed a diplomatic protest after Chinese vessels were seen in an area claimed by both countries, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin told a forum in Manila earlier this week. Last week, Vietnam said Chinese ships cut survey cables of a boat operated by Vietnam Oil & Gas Group, or PetroVietnam.
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Gates Urges U.S.-China Focus on Common Interests Instead of Differences

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates told his Chinese counterpart the two countries should seek to improve military relations that lag behind their economic ties, working together more on common interests without letting disputes get in the way.

"In recent months, our two countries have made progress toward rectifying this imbalance by jointly identifying areas of cooperation," Gates told his Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie yesterday at the start of a meeting on the sidelines of the annual IISS Asia Security Summit, the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore.

"As I leave office at the end of this month, I do so believing that our military relationship is on a more positive trajectory," said Gates, who is on his last official visit to Asia before retiring. Gates is due to address the forum today.

Gates's entreaty reflects a U.S. push for constancy in defense ties with leaders in Beijing that were severed multiple times in recent years, over issues such as U.S. arms sales to Taiwan. His positive tone belied tensions over territorial disputes in the South China Sea and California-based Google Inc. (GOOG)'s discovery of an attempted cyber-attack that the company said appeared to originate in China.

Balancing Act
U.S. diplomats are working on "balancing" rather than "containing" China, said Dana Allin, senior fellow for U.S. foreign policy and transatlantic affairs at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, based in London.

"That's part of the diplomatic game that has to be played very skillfully," Allin said.

Both President Barack Obama and China's President Hu Jin-tao have pressed their militaries to strengthen defense relations.

The U.S. is trying to overcome obstacles and opposition to better ties with China on both sides by zeroing in on topics where they're more likely to make progress, U.S. defense officials said in briefing reporters after the Gates-Liang meeting. Gates cited areas of "common strategic interests" such as piracy, North Korea and disaster relief.

"I also believe that it's important to maintain a dialogue on areas where we disagree so we can have greater clarity about each other's intentions," Gates said.

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Liang, in his opening remarks to Gates through an interpreter, said improving military ties was "important" for the leaders of both countries to address. He stressed that "new policies" might be required, without elaborating before reporters were sent out of the room.

High-Level China Presence

Liang's presence at the forum is notable as the first time China was represented at the same level of defense minister that other countries generally send to the 35-nation gathering. He's due to address the forum tomorrow.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak cautioned countries at the forum against trying to make a Cold War-style choice between China and the U.S. China's growing military capacity should not cause "undue alarm," Najib said yesterday.

"Despite rapid increases in Chinese military expenditure, the United States will continue to be by far the pre-eminent military power and by far the biggest spender," he said.

Najib advised treating China "in a very constructive, positive way," saying Chinese leaders would then be more likely to respond in kind.

U.S.-China Meetings

Gates visited Beijing in January after the Chinese ended a freeze on military relations that followed a January 2010 announcement of U.S. arms sale to Taiwan and after American overtures to the exiled Tib-etan leader, the Da-lai La-ma.


That visit was followed last month by talks in Washington led by U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and his Chinese counterpart, General Chen Bingde.

Yesterday's hour-long meeting was "productive," and "very cordial," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told reporters.

Gates sought to assure Liang that his nominated successor, Central Intelligence Agency Director Leon Panetta, would continue efforts to solidify more cooperation and communication, Morrell said.

Gates and Liang didn't discuss cyber issues specifically, U.S. defense officials said. Liang did refer to the importance of talks in Washington last month that brought civilian and military officials on both sides together to discuss issues such as cyberspace, a topic that China had suggested, the officials said on condition of anonymity.

Tensions Rise
Tensions also have escalated again in the South China Sea in recent weeks.

China claims most of the South China Sea as its own, dismissing rival claims from Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia. Gates pointedly cited U.S. interests in the area at the same forum last year, followed a month later by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's statement that settling claims was "a leading diplomatic priority" for the U.S.

Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM), Talisman Energy Inc. (TLM) and Forum Energy Plc (FEP) are all planning exploration activities in blocks with Chinese claims.

The Philippines filed a diplomatic protest after Chinese vessels were seen in an area claimed by both countries, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin told a forum in Manila earlier this week. Last week, Vietnam said Chinese ships cut survey cables of a boat operated by Vietnam Oil & Gas Group, or PetroVietnam.

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#2, #3 post is from
h ttp://w ww.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-03/gates-urges-u-s-china-focus-on-common-interests-instead-of-differences.html

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Communist government in mainland China and democratic government in taiwan hold the same claims on islands in South China sea based on the same historical facts.
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The widening vlaue gaps as well as the windening wealth gaps

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That's part of the diplomatic game that has to be played very skillfully
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Through 2008 Summer Olympics torch relay, did government in mainland China wake up?

What's impression of the government from the people around world?

Mao's contribution to China is prohibited to debate. Filtering information made more people trust rumor.
After a series of Events, many Chinese elites left mainland China.  Less toleration from government officials, more people were hurt, more people attacked officials and their policies.

Inside China, any events took place, the routine mode is:
For example: a police car was overthrown by local people.
Officials said: the event was raised by the few malicous gang. Local police began to arrest these gang.
The information began to be filtered. The topic began to be silenced. If the events were serious, the positions of 1 or 2 government official were changed for ceasing the anger of local people. No one care about the root causes. No one solved the root problems.
A few years later, more events came out.  

A event took place, D group was totally wrong, D group flee away from mainland China. Officials did nothing wrong and don't need to apologize, the event was raised by some malicious guy like CIA.
B event took place, F group was totally wrong, F group flee away from mainland China. Officials did nothing wrong and don't need to apologize, the event was raised by some malicious guy like CIA.
C event took place, ......

If I visited X country, the local authorities granted me a special privilege that local people don't enjoy. I would say how good X country is. But I would told my close friend how bad X country is after I came back.

How did government handle the issue of Nobel Peace prize? Is it skilfully or clumsily?

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Malaysia: Asia shouldn't choose between US, China

SINGAPORE - ASIAN countries shouldn't have to choose between being allies of the US or China and must avoid another Cold War-style polarisation in the region, Malaysia's prime minister said on Friday.

Asia should foster cooperation between the US, the world's military superpower, and emerging power China in order to tackle regional security problems such as human trafficking, terrorism, drug smuggling and nuclear proliferation, Najib Razak said in Singapore at the IISS Shangri-La Dialogue, a regional security conference.

'China is our partner and the US is also our partner,' Mr Najib said in a speech. 'It's not about taking sides.'

'We must replace the old bilateralism of the Cold War, not with a new bilateralism, but with a multilateralism that can rise to the task ahead.'

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates met on Friday in Singapore with his Chinese counterpart, General Liang Guanglie, amid recent signs of warming relations between the two countries.

China's army chief of staff met with top US military officials last month in Washington, and China for the first time chose to send its defence minister to the Singapore conference, now in its 10th year.

Mr Gates will deliver a speech on Saturday while Gen Liang will address the conference on Sunday. -- AP

h ttp://w ww.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/SEAsia/Story/STIStory_676074.html

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