Author: iii3hairs

Western Traditional Values and Virtues Hv Deteriorated Sharply [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2008-2-21 15:53:26 |Display all floors
Please don't use hollywood personas as examples to show the decline of "traditional values". Hollywood has never and will likely never represent reality.
Though American families have a number of issues, it is good to remember that when asked recently "who you admire most/who are your role models".... it was American children who overwhelmingly chose their parents.

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Post time 2008-2-21 16:00:03 |Display all floors
- ha, that even makes me much amused. If children all choose their parents, why so many worse relations we have seen btwn the 2 generations?  Before getting into adults, maybe some minors will say so, but it won't last long. P.s. Posting this is only for the moment convenience, not b/c believe in Hollywood.

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Post time 2008-2-21 16:12:58 |Display all floors
Originally posted by wowzers at 2008-2-21 16:22
I agreed with you, my question was regarding the OP's motivation in posting this.

Oh, I can answer that for you.

It's just another bit of "Westerbaiting".
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2008-2-21 16:16:28 |Display all floors
Originally posted by iii3hairs at 2008-2-21 03:00
- ha, that even makes me much amused. If children all choose their parents, why so many worse relations we have seen btwn the 2 generations?  Before getting into adults, maybe some minors will say  ...

It always seems the way here in the U.S..
America is constantly changing, usually with each generation, so almost every child is at odds with their parents at some point. Even the language, in regards to slang, makes it difficult for parents to relate to their children at a certain age.

Because independence is so promoted in our culture, it can sometimes lead to an unnatural distance between parent and child.

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Post time 2008-2-27 14:45:44 |Display all floors
Tuesday, February 27, 2007

Study: Immigrant crime rate low

UCI study says immigrants less likely commit crimes than native-born Americans.

The Orange County Register
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IRVINE – Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born Americans, according to a study released Monday by a UC Irvine professor for the Immigration Policy Center, based in Washington D.C.

UCI sociology professor Ruben Rumbaut found that immigrants of all national backgrounds were incarcerated at much lower rates than their American-born counterparts, according to the 2000 Census. The numbers applied to both legal and illegal immigrants.

His study also described a precipitous drop in crime rates nationwide throughout recent years – a period during which immigration has been at all-time record high. "While immigration is going up, crime is going down," Rumbaut said. "I think it's important to get the facts out there."

"Even as the undocumented population has doubled to 12 million since 1994, the violent crime rate in the United States has declined 34.2 percent and the property crime rate has fallen 26.4 percent," according to the report.

That crime drop was true even in cities with large immigrant populations such as Los Angeles or Miami, the report said. Orange County was not studied specifically.

According to the study, 3.5 percent of American-born men aged 18 to 39 were incarcerated in jails or prisons in 2000, compared to 0.7 percent of foreign-born men – five times higher.

The risk of incarceration went up significantly by the second or third generations of immigrants, according to the study.

John Keeley, spokesman for the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank focused on immigration reform, disputed the results of the study and said census data for incarcerated and other institutionalized people were flawed in 2000.

Keeley added that migrant communities tend to underreport crimes and that all immigrant criminals might not be in jail.

Keeley also said that the children of immigrants posed a crime problem not considered in the statistics.

"That is something we intend to monitor in terms of gang activity and truancy," Keeley said.

Rumbaut co-authored the study with Harvard University professor Walter A. Ewing.

They reported that "the impression that immigration and criminality are linked" is a myth fueled by political expediency and groups with outside agendas.

Rumbaut said politicians frequently exploit fears about immigrant crime for their own purposes – or pander to uninformed voters. While immigrants may underreport crimes, the data still holds true for homicides and other crimes that are fully reported, he said.

"There has been a Mount Everest of data going back 100 years that indicates immigrants have a low crime rate," Rumbaut said.

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Post time 2008-2-27 15:28:36 |Display all floors
STUDY: Immigrants Commit Less Crimes Than US Natives

Headlines: in, and NY times and others

The New York Times / US

National Briefing | West

California: Study of Immigrants and Crime

Published: February 26, 2008

Immigrants in the state, about 35 percent of adults, are far less likely than native-born Americans to commit crimes, according to a study by the Public Policy Institute of California, a nonpartisan research group. Among men ages 18 to 40, the group most likely to commit crimes, native-born Americans were 10 times more likely than immigrants to be incarcerated for crimes in California prisons and jails. The study included both legal and illegal immigrants, without focusing separately on illegal immigrants. But it found that native-born American men ages 18 to 40 were at least eight times more likely to be imprisoned for crimes than Mexican immigrants in that age range who were not naturalized citizens — a group likely to have a high percentage of illegal immigrants.  

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