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This post was edited by Jaaja at 2018-5-14 22:41|
robert237 Post time: 2018-5-14 19:37
Your statements are ignorant beyond all belief.
The policies of the CPC brought China from a war t ...
You constantly speculate "what if" China had come under western control and imply that everything would be puppy dogs and roses if China had become just another western puppet
Don't put your words in my mouth.
It is you who have maintained that if China had made other choices, it would have automatically ended up as western puppet.
My speculation is that China would not have ended up as western puppet, even if it had made other choices.
The USSR didn't just hand the technology to China.
That's true. In exchange China sent uranium to Soviet Union. Maybe pork too as you mentioned - that I don't know.
where was Mao quoted as calling the Great Leap Forward a failure and a loss to the country? In western history books I suppose. Only fools believe everything they read.
Great leap forward took place from 1958 to 1962. It's idea was not to build nuclear weapons, but to complete (or at least fast-track most of the way) the communist dream by improving production and catching up with capitalist countries (UK and USA specifically) in mere 15 years. After 4 years of trying, the attempt was found futile and stopped.
Quotes for self-criticism toward that period from Chinese government (and from Mao specifically) are numerous, but they all refer to "Seven Thousand Cadres Conference" which took place in early 1962.
In that meeting Mao held a speech, in which he acknowledged that in his current opinion it will take at least 100 years to catch up with the capitalist countries, rather than 15 that was the goal of "great leap forward" (hence the name).
He also acknowledged reasons for that - China had too big population and way too low starting level andd backawrd economy for such leap to work. This is de-facto admitting that the great leap forward had landed short, or failed.
He also went on to acknowledge personal responsibility of the mistakes that the Central Committee had made.
I don't read Chinese, so I cannot direct you to official Chinese language sources of that meeting. Feel free to look up yourself, and tell us your findings.
As a trustworthy English language source from China, full translated transcription of Mao's speech in the "Seven Thousand Cadres Conference" was was published in Peking Review (a Chinese national newspaper in English language) in 1978, number 27, date July 7. You can find that issue in scanned format in internet, if you cannot find it in a library in Guilin.
The speech itself was made public to Chinese and foreign audiences earlier that year, 16 years after it took place.
I'll finish this comment with a quote from that speech by Mao:
"There should be full democracy both inside and outside the Party, that is, democratic centralism shouid be practised in earnest in both spheres. Problems should be brought out into the open frankly and the masses allowed to speak out, speak out even if we are going to be abused".