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coralbay Post time: 2018-5-6 06:07
I have never lived in the USA.

You were there for 60+ years. What did you do while there in suppo ...

That's all a peasant can do in the USA.
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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coralbay Post time: 2018-5-6 06:17
So ... in your own words ... why aren’t you still there, fighting for the workers (from your armc ...

Because I know it won't do any good. The rich own and rule all nations in the west.
Capitalism is just warmed over feudalism with a public relations department.
They parrot catch phrases like freedom and democracy but they are empty slogans.
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robert237 Post time: 2018-5-6 21:38
But you side step my question of "But why hasn't non-communist India even come close with their po ...
According to your arguments, India should be the one who is most eager to advance the fastest since
your "human nature" proposal states that all humans are greedy, aggressive, and can only be satisfied
drinking the blood of others. That's capitalism in your own words.


Do you think that such greed or aggressive control toward others does not exist in India? Do you follow news from the country?

What I suggested, is that perhaps the Indians recognize the place of the country in economic ranking (as something else than "second largest economy") and are are satisfied with that. After all, they are a democracy.

That does not mean, that said flaws of human nature are absent in lives of individual citizens there. I'm sure every Indian wants to do better than their neighbour too, but the country as whole (among other countries) does not suffer of similar inferiority complex as China does.

You are also putting words in my mouth. I never said "drinking the blood of others".

The extent of greed (you can also call it survival instinct) in human nature is to do better than each other's neighbours, however big neighbourhood each individual has. Typically that means trying to make more farm produce, or money, or whatever is valuable in the society, than others.

This behaviour is inherent to human individuals in all political systems, and in my opinion should not be prevented aggressively. In communist China it was.

This exrapolates into larger systems and there you can call it excessive capitalism that needs to be controlled by socialist constraints, such as efficient taxation to finance public welfare. But you can't just kill the greed like was attempted in all failed or failing communist states.

If try to kill the greed, you don't get growth to finance the society, but you still get the poor to feed, and you still just can't kill the beast.

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Jaaja Post time: 2018-5-6 07:12
Do you think that such greed or aggressive control toward others does not exist in India? Do you ...

Well thanks for admitting you have such a low opinion of mankind. It must have had something to do
with your upbringing and your surroundings. The west is good at indoctrinating people from kindergarten on. They like to call it their "educational" system.

Now you're on record as saying the Chinese have an inferiority complex.

Drinking the blood of others is merely a metaphor for that the Europeans have been doing for
the past 500 years. You can't deny the past 500 years of worldwide genocide by the savagely
greedy Europeans. Why would you ever try to bury the past. It's not changing and it can't
be ignored.
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Jaaja Post time: 2018-5-6 07:12
Do you think that such greed or aggressive control toward others does not exist in India? Do you ...

Such a lot opinion of mankind you have.
And now you're on record saying the Chinese have an inferiority complex.

Drinking the blood of others is a metaphor for what the Europeans have done for the past 500 years.
Three continents subjugated through the liberal use of genocide.
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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robert237 Post time: 2018-5-6 23:33
Such a lot opinion of mankind you have.
And now you're on record saying the Chinese have an inferi ...
inferiority complex.


You have reading disability. I said that China has inferiority complex. China as a state among other states. Not Chinese individuals.

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