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            You got that right!

There ain't no such thing as IDEOLOGY in the heart & soul of Colonialist-turned Capitalist Imperialism, other than chasing and following the self-interest of greed & extraction of great wealth.

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TheHermit Post time: 2017-11-27 23:41
There is no proof that the world we perceive is not an illusion. Moreover, each one of us perceive ...

My reply still did not get through. What I wanted to say is that what you mentioned reminds me of Zhuangzi.

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huaqiao Post time: 2017-11-29 16:00
My reply still did not get through. What I wanted to say is that what you mentioned reminds me of  ...

Very much so.
Zhuangzi's "butterfly dream" succinctly illustrates the illusion of reality. The theory goes back to early fifth century BC and the ontological assertions of Parmenides. Some credit Parmenides as the father of logical deduction. Most probably a student of the Pythagorean school  of thought, which preceded his teachings.
The metaphysical theories of Pythagoras have been lost in antiquity, much like most of the writings of Parmenides.
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Post time 2017-12-1 15:31:47 |Display all floors
TheHermit Post time: 2017-11-30 15:26
Very much so.
Zhuangzi's "butterfly dream" succinctly illustrates the illusion of reali ...

I don't think Zhuangzi's philosophy was influenced by Parmenides because of different location and travelling was not so convenient then. Another thing is Zhuangzi is not specific about what consists of reality whereas Parmenides thinks that what exists, exists; and nothing can come out of nothing (in my own summary).

What strikes me is that during about the same period (give or take a century plus), different places in the world see the birthplace of some of the major religions of today. For example, Buddhism in India, Jewish religion in Israel, Taoism and Confucianism in China, and the Greek philosophies which influenced western thinking. It is like about that period, a kind of revelation happened to the major civilizations. Another thought that comes to mind is whether these revelations get diluted/watered down through the years up till today. Were the teachings/revelations being carefully preserved?

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huaqiao Post time: 2017-12-1 15:31
I don't think Zhuangzi's philosophy was influenced by Parmenides because of different location and ...

You are right..... ideas seem to spring up unexpectedly in different places and different times, totally independently, and seemingly without connection.
Isn't that part of the illusion?
Parmenides was referring to the illusion of time and therefore space. He did not accept past, present, future, but one permanent now. Without time/space no change is possible.
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