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[US] China hits back at US in row over South China Sea   [Copy link] 中文

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Boston101 Post time: 2015-10-18 07:48
The actual "war" part of Iraq and Afghanistan, the US won handily and incredibly quick.  The Vietn ...
The Vietnam War, again, every major military engagement was won by the US.  The aftermath (occupation, pacification, rebuilding) were unmitigated catastrophes because of just how differently wars are fought today.

  A lot of half-truths and misrepresentation of historical facts there.

From 1964 onward, President Johnson was pressured by the Joint Chiefs to escalate the war, which was by then bogged down. Johnson was keen to protect his Great Society Program and was less supportive of the Vietnam invasion.But he did not want the stigma of a lost war on his watch, so he gave free rein to the Joint Chiefs up to but not including tactical nukes.

Joint Chiefs escalated the was by bombing with B52s close to the Chinese border, mined Haiphong and sent troops into Cambodia, Laos and all parts of South Vietnam. Meanwhile the USN bombarded Vietnam carriers and from the battleship New Jersey This course of action greatly risked an open war with PRC China, the Joint Chiefs was willing to accept that risk, knowing China will lose and lose again if it resorts to nukes.

Johnson said to the Joint Chiefs and McNamara that the all out onslaught by them was not winning the war, bu the Joint Chiefs was determinated not to suffer the political consequences of losing a war, which far outweighed, for them, the human costs of continuing.

In the end, USA lost the war and was forced into a hasty and humiliating withdrawal under Nixon. By then, USofA suffered 58,000 soldiers and lost its credibility in S.E.Asia

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Boston101 Post time: 2015-10-18 20:00
China’s claims rely on historical fiction. Beijing often speaks of “historical rights,” yet histo ...

Usage makes legal!

Chinese have been fishing the South China Sea and those reefs and sand-bars for over a thousand years. By way of proof, Chinese shipwrecks were discovered in South China Sea along with their cargoes of Ming Dynasty porcelain, the worse for wear, but identifiable as such.

There was no Philippines back then, later on, those islands were colonized by Spain, which lost them to USofA in the Spanish American War in 1898. USofA kept Guam as a military outpost, a Democles Sword over S.E. Asia and now PRC China.

If USofA can keep Guam by din of an act of war, China can lay claim to South China Sea by usage and commerce, which is far more  preferable then war.



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Boston101 Post time: 2015-10-16 16:32
China's Military Might: First, the Good News
Jun 4, 2015 9:46 AM EDT
By  Thomas J. Christensen   

The grandson of Ghenghis Khan founded the Yuan Dynasty.

The Mongolians were by then wholly assimilated, they affected all things Han Chinese, the way they dressed, their codex and legal system, the mannerism, their writings and speech ( the Mongols did not have their own indigenous written language)... to all intend and purposes the Yuan Mongols were as Chinese as the Hans.

Your attempt to redraw China's boundary, and put us Chinese in our place by USAnian diktat, failed because you failed to take into account the assimilation of Mongols, Hans, Manchus  etc into one unified nation. Your attempt to sow discord between the ethnic groups failed because they see themselves as, first and foremost, Chinese. One nation under the mandate of heaven

If anything, Mongolia should be a part of PRC China

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Jim9 Post time: 2015-10-19 00:27
Yes, keep watching your CNN and Fox News....Rubbish.

Absolutely I will, along with CCTV and RT.

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robert237 Post time: 2015-10-19 01:53
People immigrate to different countries all the time for different reasons.
The people that immigr ...

You are really grasping at straws here saying people immigrate to be a gangster and seek out violence. So tell me if it's so bad; what keeps you in the US? Is it because you can't get a visa to stay in China? After all, why bother to stay if you harbor such ill feelings?

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cestmoi Post time: 2015-10-19 02:56
The grandson of Ghenghis Khan founded the Yuan Dynasty.

The Mongolians were by then wholly assimil ...

Don’t the majority of Mongols live in Mongolia? They speak and still have a written language that is not even close to Mandarin.

You think China should annex Mongolia? Sure there are Mongols in China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region and other regions of China (e.g. Xinjiang) but there are also Mongols in Russia. I think China’s peaceful rise is turning out not to be too peaceful with attitudes like yours.

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Boston101 Post time: 2015-10-19 05:20
History is China’s weakest argument on why it owns the South China Sea. You don’t think that Bru ...

Quite the opposite, history is the basis on which Chinese, and I include Mongolians, Manchus, Hans, Tibetans etc , make the territorial claims to those islands.

Tell me, why is it white USAnians can slaughter native Americans, take away their homeland and force them to live in reservations, genocide by any definition, yet has the gall to accuse Chinese of taking what is historically Chinese? Oh yes, you mentioned brute force. But that's USAnian, not Chinese. Another flaw in your argument is that you project your morality or lack thereof and your base instincts on others, expecting others to behave like you. We Chinese are better than that.

PS  Hang on, I am not through with highlighting the inaccuracies of your other piece of disinformation. Time permitting, I'll be back, you lucky skinhead.
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