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CHina still long way from Carrier operation; lacking AWACS n number of J15. [Copy link] 中文

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zjjhpj Post time: 2014-9-17 22:20
So China's first carrier always activity at the ranged of the China's Air Force .........

China's first carrier group is nothing more than training and flag waving, it will never be operational as it's out of date, very out of date, plus China does not know how to operate  carrier group efficiently, it's still learning.

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raton Post time: 2014-9-19 20:03
aircraft carries as sitting ducks...

I agree, a carrier is nothing without its carrier group to refuel, and rearm it as well as protect it. Then there are the carrier killer missiles both Russia and America both have.  The question that comes to mind is with drones and carrier killer missiles, is the day of the aircraft carrier over? Is China once again chasing an obsolete military theory

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DrMao Post time: 2014-9-17 07:49
You need catapult to launch AWAC and ASW planes from the carrier.


Not necessarilly:  While the PLAN is fiddling with an E-2 Hawkeye counterpart of its own (facts) based on a Y-7 airframe; it is also said that they are [exploring the feasibilty of UAV's as an AEW platform (recent revealations of the long range VSTOL UAV better known as the Sea Harrier UACV looks an ideal candidate).

Given todays technology, everything that's in a Hawkeye can be compacted into a more miniturized package and it'll do just fine a job maybe even better. Here, personnels, i.e., pilots and such will not be put in harms way; UAV's are dime a dozen as compared to the massively equipmented Hawkeye; you can have dozons of them aboard not only carriers - but all surface vessels; it is armed with Chinese hell fires; and, no catapults needed.

As technology advances, I'm of the believe that catapults will be a thing of the past. Eventually, catapults willy be phased out. More powerfull engines with reverse thrusts will eventually do away with the cumbersome and costly needs of catapults.  



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youknowhat Post time: 2014-9-17 04:23
china needs at least a dozen of carriers plus carrier jet fighters in order to do justice in the pac ...


As I said, carriers are but an image and prestige projection item that all countries wanted and wanted for but but bragging rights only. China's access denial strategies are the key here, and, miniturization coupled with numerical superiority advantages has to be the wave of the future. The saying [never put all of your eggs in one basket] is inarguable and it makes good and logical sense here.

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dusty1 Post time: 2014-9-19 00:56
China's first carrier group is nothing more than training and flag waving, it will never be operat ...

Again, it's all about modern day sure-kill firepowers - not only those of the US and Russia  - but especially those of the PRC, dusty -" which will make for the deciding factor of what naval battles will be like and, if you think you can leave China out of the equatin here, then you are either bigot número uno or, you are gravely ill informed about China's firepower these days...
It's like this, dusty: in an all out [either you die or I live duel to the death battle at sea theses days], much like that of the consequences your man Manny Plaquio and his rival the Maywheather will face, there's only one way out for carriers [and for all naval platforms and systems]: do.wnwards that is.  If such is to be the case, not only carriers, but all surface platforms will get severely bloodied and, likely make for perfect habitats for marine life's and coral to settle and call home. If under such a scenario, the battle of midway as we know it will appear puny and it will be guaranteed to look child's play.

I mean why do you think that even with Russia's bold move into the Ukraine that as big mouthed as NATO is that they are no more but all talks and no action?  It's because the big boys, US, China,, Russia, UK and France, knows full well that they can't use the threat of nukes in retaliation because, if they do, what that amounts to (my way of looking at things) is that it's a pack between the big boys at something I would best describe [as mutually-assured-suicide with no return] therefore there's just not going to be any shootouts (or blackmail) no matter how dire the situation.  


Given the above only option, it leaves only one scenario for the big boys if a brawl breaks out: conventional engagement that is. With conventional engagement between the big boys where [state of the arts weaponry will be the weapons to be deployed] there's just not going to be any escape for these parties, whichever they may be who are embroiled any brawl involving military to military face offs: nowhere but down that is...


Therefore, if a shootout breaks in either the East or the South China Sea, both the US and the Chinese Navy will be no more but paper tigers because the cost of confronting each other does not warrant any such venture.







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