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      • 2015-3-21 23:24

        It may be the other side of the proverbial coin but what one should also consider in China is the very strong tradition
        of "gaining face". This may be interpreted in a number of ways, although perhaps it is best if God is left out of the
        equation since many Chinese are atheists to begin with. Gaining face can have very positive aspects such as being
        kind and generous e.g. paying for a large dinner for one's family / friends, although some might view this as a
        display of vanity.

        Alternatively one can gain face by showing off a luxury consumer item such as a new car, i-phone,
        designer handbag, fashion brand clothing etc. Given that most people in China have not had the ability to show
        off their wealth up until around twenty or so years ago, this might be forgivable despite the fact that the country is
        avowedly communist and all of the comrades supposed to be equal. I used to be amused to see fairly poor Chinese
        men showing off their 'new' suit by keeping the maker's label visible on the sleeve. This would seem a very modest
        face gaining practice compared to the vulgar displays of conspicuous consumption made by "tuhao" Chinese which
        would make ordinary citizens grind their teeth in chagrin.

      • 2015-3-21 19:29

        When I am lied to in a really obvious way in China (to 'save face'), for example being assured something has been done when it obviously hasn't, I wonder what the point is because the lie is found out.
        All that happens is that the liar is proven to be unreliable and untrustworthy: is this how Chinese want to be seen?

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