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huaren2323 Post time: 2013-12-15 14:41
I am sorry to hear of your loss specially someone so dear as your grandparents and years of destitu ...
I would worry more about China getting organized militarily, socially and
morally first that they do not become the monsters that they detest.

I think you are too imaginative.

I visited Nanjing Massacre Memorial on 13 December and imagined what the victims (men, women, elderly, children and infants) went through back in Dec 1937 under the harsh winter conditions.  At the end of the Memorial, there was a message of "Peace" and forgiveness.  This coming from China, the victims !

I wonder what her tormentors thought and think .  Do you know or can you IMAGINE ?

Why China was victim, and will she be again ?


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Post time 2013-12-16 08:14:19 |Display all floors
Kill all of Jpanese !{:soso_e171:}

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zjjhpj Post time: 2013-12-16 08:14
Kill all of Jpanese !


Thanks, Rudi.  I know you always support the DEATH PENALTY and I totally abide by your wishes.


So, I answer : SURE !


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Post time 2013-12-16 11:37:03 |Display all floors
This post was edited by huaren2323 at 2013-12-16 11:56
elzach Post time: 2013-12-16 01:00
You presented some well-thought out opinions. Thank you for that.

I just wanted to ask you, what  ...

Every developing tribes/confederations/nations have unfettered growth tending on the the wild side if you are to examine their history. It took several generation of pillaging for Genghis Khan to consolidate its Land Empire in the 14th century that covered the Pacific Ocean until the Mediterranean and the Black Sea into Russia. There were no living victims to tell the stories of rape and pillaging. The same is true for Elizabethan England and they made it a crown directive to pillage the rich Spaniard and Portugese ships. The Anglo Saxon Protestants pilgrims/immigrants almost decimated the native Americans. The Australians killed off most aborigines and made Australia a haven for the white settlers.
China as an empire during the Qing expansion moved into Northwest and westwards aggressively.

All told these successful nation was able to sustain their commanding heights with a foundation of consensual governance and civil government in order to perpetuate themselves.
  
Genghis Khan brought the adopted Tibetan writing to administer the vast empire. England had the Charter of Rights magna carta into a confederation of barons that comingled their interest with the King. The USA adopted their own constitution based on oligopoly of vested interest industrialists in a democratic framework. China knew that absolute rule os one emperor does not work and still struggling to find a framework of governance that can best suits its vast populace with growing appetite for material wealth and short of moral and communal sensitivities. They deposed the Qing Emperor only to fuel ambition of Yuan Shi Kai and others that followed with dynastc ambition using communism as a facade. It is still work in progress but having a common consciousness of daunting humiliation heave on them for more than a century I would think that  China would find a way or several ways. The capitalist model within a communist system is just a mean to an end but not an the end itself.

It took years for the wild and uncouth developing empires to reach its pinnacle of civility. Century for Genghis Mongol, decades for England and USA. China just started in the late 1980's. Hopefully the leaders and parents plus the educational institutions can managed this stage. Unless a threat of war from a common enemy compels China to pull their rank close and act again as one.

Elzach, I hope it will be achieve in our lifetime if we each try to make it happen in our own ways. The  Chinese psyche have been adversly programmed to speak and act according to party lines and not according to truth, justice and civility. So despite of China's wealth these are often and still manifest.

The current leadership in on its way to clean up house and you shall see what will unfold soon of another fall of a giant in Chinese leadership soon. Hopefully reforms would extend to educational , socail services, and the justice system.

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Post time 2013-12-16 13:16:23 |Display all floors
whampoa Post time: 2013-12-16 07:05
I think you are too imaginative.

I visited Nanjing Massacre Memorial on 13 December and imagine ...

Cai Mei Yu & Zhang Xiao Hung are my two grand aunts who worked for the Red Cross during the Nanjing massacre. Even with their Red Cross credentials and uniform they were waylaid by a contingent of Japanese Imperail Infantry at The Normal School compound and were subjected to inhumane acts and died. It could not get more up close and personal than that. Since then our relative hunted Japanese soldiers even during the ending of the war, tortured them and carved out their liver and heat while alive.

But this will not achieve any resolution of getting back our aunts. Besides as the years go by we learned that there are many moderates Japanese who were also against the war.

I advocate a strong defense to discourage aggression by foreign powers. On a personal note we all trained with weapons and self defense so that never shall we be bullied nor victimized like helpless sheep.

Meanwhile, I do think peace is better than war.

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whampoa Post time: 2013-12-16 13:06
Thanks, Rudi.  I know you always support the DEATH PENALTY and I totally abide by your wishes.

...

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Post time 2013-12-16 15:56:03 |Display all floors
zjjhpj Post time: 2013-12-16 08:14
Kill all of Jpanese !

Hatred cannot solve the problem, in remembrance we learn from the history and move on.

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