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China's Air Defense Identification Zone Announced on 23 Nov 2013. [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2013-11-25 10:11:45 |Display all floors
Almost by coincidence, on the 119th anniversary of the Battle of Lushunkou of 1894 that saw the massacre of all residents of the Chinese naval base at Lushunkou by the Imperial Japanese Navy which managed to surround it from behind, on its land side, killing infants, children, women, and unarmed men, including the hogs raised by the residents, China announced its first ever Air Defense Identification Zone.  Nor was China the first country to ever announce such a zone, as 20 countries, including Japan and South Korea have already done so.  And, Japan's ADIZ had infringed on China's Diaoyudao airspace for the past 40 years without China responding in kind.

Good walls make good neighbors.  So, China's setting up of this wall of DEFENSE is really helpful in keeping Japanese fighter planes from attempting something hostile and provocative, like shooting down Chinese patrol planes and drones over Diaoyudao.  As for the possibility of war between China and Japan, it certainly became more likley after Japan's unilateral attempt to change the status quo on September 11, 2012, by offiicially nationalizing three Diaodudao islands belonging to China, despite China's warnings not to do so without prior negotiations, which Japan refuses to engage in up to now.

What can we do if a shooting war ensues?  Nothing, except watch the fireworks spread from five islands in the East China Sea to the coastal cities of Japan and China, like Christmas tree lights, brightening up the Far East.  After all, this phenomenon is not new, given Japan's penchant to attack other countries like America at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, and China's capital Nanking on December 9, 1937, in the spirit of the Holy Season, which was followed by six long weeks of hellish massacre and sexual orgies that would make the Roman bacchanalians blush for lack of depravity.  China is giving Japan a chance to be part of the celebrations this time in 2013.  

Let us do a scenario analysis, so there will be no accidental hostilities:

Chinese radio: "Peace be to friends and men of goodwill, you are approaching the sovereign air space of China, please identify yourself."  

Japanese pilot:  "This is a Japanese F15 patrolling over Senkaku Island that is part of our national territory."

Chinese radio:  "You are intruding into China's sovereign air space, leave this area immediately."

Japanese pilot:  "Senkaku is part of Japan's sovereign territory, your message is in error."

Chinese radio:  "Our fighter jets are on the way to escort you out of our sovereign air space, please comply."

Japanese pilot:  "If your planes come into our air space over Senkaku, I will have to take appropriate action to defend our territory."

Chinese radio:  "Our planes have contact with you, please follow their instructions to leave this area immediately."

The rest is up to your imagination and bias as to what would ensue.  If Japan still refuses to negotiate with China over the status of Diaoyudao/Senkaku, even in such a situation, who is in the wrong?

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Post time 2013-11-25 17:04:59 |Display all floors
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Writer's real name is Lau Guan Kim.  lau_guan_kim is for commentary and analysis. He writes also under another alter ego jinseng. I will respond to good reasoned debate. Mudslingers shall be ignored. What I do not like are ignorance, stupidity, chauvinism and bigotry. The other party has as much right as I have until it resorts to insults and nuisance.

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Post time 2013-11-26 12:41:14 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2013-11-26 13:14
lau_guan_kim Post time: 2013-11-25 17:04
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There is a reason why I chose not to cite the Naval Battle of Port Arthur of Feb 8-9, 1904 together with the attack on Pearl Harbor and the attack on Nanking - because the latter two belonged to a different pattern of Japanese aggression in the weeks before Christmas holidays.

The attack on Port Arthur was carried out in the night by the Japanese fleet under Admirial Togo, and after two days of skirmishes in which the Japanese also made many blunders, no ships on either side were sunk, although the Russians suffered severe torpedo damages to two of its main battleships, which the Russians could not repair because Port Arthur (Lushunkou) no longer had the repair capabilities that it had when under Qing China.  Russian casualties were 150 strong, and the Japanese, 90, but it ended in a naval stalemate.

What the Japanese did was to replicate their conquest of the same port in 1894 (called Lushunkou then) by using its army to cut off the land connections of Port Arthur, effectively laying a siege on it by sea and by land, from August 1, 1904 to January 2, 1905 (once again culminating in the Christmas season).  As in Lushunkou and Weihaiwei, the Japanese managed to position cannons on top of 203 Meter Hill, and the Russian fleet hemmed in on all sides was literally taken apart, ship by ship, in a very vicious display of Japanese firepower.

So, yes the Naval Battle of Port Arthur was an example of surprise attack by the Japanese, but it was not quite as successful as the Attack on Pearl Harbor of December 7, 1941, and the land assault on Nanking of December 9, 1937.      In terms of timing, the Naval Battle of Port Arthur on Feb 8-9, 1904, and the Battle of Weihaiwei on Jan 20 - Feb 12, 1894, can be grouped together as examples of Japanese attack before the Chinese New Year.  On the other hand, the Attack on Pearl Harbor of December 7, 1941 and the Attack on Nanking of December 9, 1937, can be grouped together as examples of Japanese attack before the Christmas holiday.  In both cases, the "most civilized Asian country of Japan" sent gifts of bloody massacre and physical destruction to its victims.

Japan as a political entity is a blood-thirsty country, that only the British could paint as the "most civilized country in Asia".  

Once again, Japanese victory over Russia in the final siege of Port Arthur was faciliated by a British spy, who became the inspiration of Ian Fleming in characterizing James Bond, by the name of Sidney George Reilly, a Jewish Russian spy who served as a quadruple agent in sabotaging all of Britain's enemies, but especially the Russians, through his procuring for the Japanese, the construction blueprints of the defense of Port Arthur, just as another British "friend of China" Vice-Admiral John McClure helped China sign the surrender documents on behalf of Admiral Ding who had committed suicide and turned over Weihaiwei to the British command.  As to the role of British Captain William M. Lang, advisor to the Qing government in setting up the defenses of Weiheaiwei originally, one can only guess of his role with grave forebodings.

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Post time 2013-11-26 12:52:05 |Display all floors
What a warmonger you are.
Stan, you're holding a gun to God's head. I can't think of a metaphor that's better than this.

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Post time 2013-11-26 13:31:45 |Display all floors
F111 Post time: 2013-11-26 12:52
What a warmonger you are.

Peacemonger, would be more accurate, because all China wants is peace and tranquility in its traditional and established use of Diaoyudao as the fishing grounds of its people, practiced by Chinese fishermen for centuries before the Japanese "discovered" it in the 1890's.  Since the Japanese claimed Diaoyudao to be "terra nullius" at the time they illegally annexed it in 1895, the Japanese have also admitted they had not discovered Diaoyudao at any time before then.  Well, China and Taiwan have abundant historical documents that show Diaoyudao had been discovered, developed and used by Chinese/Taiwanese for centuries before the Japanese "discovered" it.  Why is peaceful possession and use of one's own territory called "war-mongering" by the Sons of Britain, whose mother empire had massacred a hundred million innocent Chinese men, women and children by forcing their government to accept Opium imports and allow Opium Trade in their country?  Why?  Because Britain and its many ex-colonies are afraid that a China recovered from its colonial wounds may ask for reparations, easily worth a Trillion pounds.  That is why.

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Post time 2013-11-26 20:53:00 |Display all floors
There is a good article written by Chinadaily today regarding this topic: ... ontent_17130942.htm

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Post time 2013-11-27 15:52:38 |Display all floors

All the hullaballoo about China's ADIZ is really bizarre, because a country with nary a plane to defent its air space such as the Philippines also has its own ADIZ, which shows ADIZ's do not threaten anybody except the intruder who is afraid of being detected.  Friendly countries have no problem with ADIZ's which are not claims of sovereignty, but merely welcoming pads for travelers.  It merely says, "If you are a friend, wave your hat at us, and we will not worry about you."

Now you know Japan will never wave a hat at China, even if it is inside China's air space, or perhaps because it is inside China's air space when it is over Diaoyudao.

A thief will never wave a hat at the owner of the house for sure.

But, it would be wrong for the thief to think that the owner could not tell if he is in his house.  With all the CCTV and motion detectors, the thief's every move is clear as daylight to the owner.  China is patient with the Japanese pirates.  China feels no compunction to act unless absolutely necessary.  Because, regardless of the propaganda against him, taking care of a thief to a master chef is easy as pie.

Japan's hatred of China's ADIZ merely confirms Japan has dishonest intentions.  Thieves do not like light shone on them.  They prefer to work in the dark.

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