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DanseMacabre Post time: 2013-3-14 09:15
The Chinese think the alternatives are no better? Except perhaps for the vested interest groups. I ...

Yes, that is why Chinese people think democracy can wait.

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DanseMacabre Post time: 2013-3-14 09:15
Corruption is rampant in China and is getting worse. If the current system can't at least alleviate the problem -- after so many "changes" and "reforms" -- people naturally hope for a real change.

Don't worry, when growth rate drops below 4%, all the corruptions will be legalized, like in West.

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Bandito Post time: 2013-3-13 13:35
Mr Mao? Right, What is the address for the anti communist affairs arm of the FBI?

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Master/slave is correct. There are about 600,000 homeless people living in tents or in sleeping bags
on the streets of America. This is what you get if you don't want to be a slave.
So there really is a choice in America. I just described it.
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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This post was edited by ztoa789 at 2013-3-14 09:21

There are four kinds of corruption, from lowest to highest :

(1) cash bribery. I don’t have to explain what it is.

(2) asset bribery. For example, sell an apartment to government officers at price much lower than market value.

(3) controlling business opportunities. If there are good business opportunities, everyone wants a piece of it. So those who can get the offers or contracts are the ones who make money. If you have family business, being a powerful politician secures the business opportunities for your family business in lot of ways. People will love to give the contracts to your family business compared to other available options. Of course you will return the favors in favor through the political power you have, like giving them state contracts, or paying them higher for the contract.

(4) mutual trust between politicians and businessmen, that is, politicians work for businessmen when they are in office and believe he will get in return after leaving office. Why do you think Clinton has given so many 5 min speeches, each paid tens of thousands of dollars? While Brooksley Born, the one who tried to contain Wall St, was never given such opportunities?

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This post was edited by ztoa789 at 2013-3-14 09:23

#1 and #2 kinds of corruptions happen everywhere, more or less, once caught, it is very hard to make a case for yourself.  #3 and #4 kinds are legalized corruptions, WHICH INVOLVE LOT LOT LOT MORE MONEY THAN #1 AND #2. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IN A SOCIETY RULED BY LAW, GOVERNMENT CAN HARDLY DO ANYTHING TO PUNISH THE PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED SUCH CORRUPTIONS, because it is almost impossible to collect enough evidence.

The less developed a country is, the more junior form of corruptions are, because of limited economic size and lack of business opportunities; the more developed a country is, the more senior form of corruptions are, because politicians HAVE BETTER WAY TO GET MONEY FOR THEMSELVES, they don’t have to commit the junior form of corruptions which will put themselves in danger of criminal investigations.

You can see in developing countries, like India, Indonesia, Philippines, and China in 80s and 90s, #1 and #2 corruptions are very common.

Since mid 2000s in China, #3 kind of corruptions have started to spread (no #4 corruption in China because of the system), WHICH “FREE” MEDIA HAS GREAT INTEREST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS IN CHINA, THEREFORE SUCH CORRUPTIONS IN CHINA SERVER THEIR POLITICAL GOALS.


In developed worlds, #3 and #4 are very common, BUT FOR SOME REASONS, “FREE” MEDIA DOESN’T CARE, THEY NEVER SERIOUSLY BRING SUCH CORRUPTIONS TO PUBLIC ATTENTION.

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zglobal Post time: 2013-3-13 17:20
Run away little Robby... you have no credibility here....a week in a Chinese 3 star hotel doesn't  ...

I've been to China on seven different occasions and have traveled in three different provinces.
You've never even been to China. You should listen to me and maybe you might learn something.
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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