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SOUTH SEA ISLANDS HAVE BEEN PART OF CHINA FOR CENTURIES BEFORE THE 9-DASH MAP.   [Copy link] 中文

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In China's shadow, ASEAN leaders look to India for maritime security

(Reuters) - Southeast Asian nations and India vowed on Thursday to step up cooperation on maritime security, a move that comes amid tension with China in the potentially oil- and gas-rich South China Sea.

In a vision statement agreed at a summit in New Delhi, India and the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) set their sights on a new "strategic partnership" that would bring closer political, security and economic cooperation.

Significantly, they underlined the need for freedom of navigation, a contentious issue because of competing claims with Beijing over parts of the South China Sea, though there was no mention of China in their statement.

In speeches, the Philippines and Vietnam referred to tensions in their region, but India's foreign minister sought to distance New Delhi from the wrangling over the South China Sea.

"There are fundamental issues there that do not require India's intervention," External Affairs Minister Salman Kurshid told a news conference, adding that issues of sovereignty "need to be resolved between the countries concerned".

An ASEAN summit ended in acrimony last month over China's assertiveness in the South China Sea, with its leaders failing to agree on a concluding joint statement.

The South China Sea has become Asia's biggest potential military flashpoint as Beijing's sovereignty claim over a huge, looping area has set it against Vietnam and the Philippines as the three countries race to tap possibly huge oil reserves. Malaysia and Brunei, also members of ASEAN, as well as Taiwan also claim parts of the sea.

Other members of ASEAN include Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore, Indonesia and Laos.

Last month, China announced a plan to board and search ships that illegally enter what it considers its territory in the South China Sea, prompting ASEAN's secretary-general to warn that the move could spark naval clashes.

"At this time of rising concerns about maritime issues, the need to maintain a high level of maritime security and freedom of navigation offers us ... an opportunity for enhanced cooperation," Philippines Vice President Jejomar Binay said.

INDIAN OCEAN ROUTES

Although India has no territorial claim in the region, it is hungry for energy and is exploring for oil and gas with Vietnam in an area contested by China. In future, it is expected to ship liquefied natural gas from Russia through the Malacca Straits.

This month, India's navy chief said he was ready to deploy vessels to the South China Sea to protect exploration interests there if needed. Last year, an Indian navy ship was challenged for entering 'Chinese waters' off the coast of Vietnam.

Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono told the summit that closer maritime cooperation with India was needed because 70 percent of the world's traffic in petroleum products passes through the Indian Ocean from the Middle East to East Asia.

"While the center of the global economy is shifting eastward, the Indian and Pacific Oceans have been and will become even more important in providing the vital sea routes for trade and commerce," Yudhoyono said.

The New Delhi summit underscored India's growing role in one of the world's fastest-growing regions.

Twenty years after India launched a 'Look East' diplomatic push to promote trade with a neglected neighboring region, the relationship is finally beginning to gain traction. Annual trade has nearly doubled in four years and India's growing economic clout make it appealing as a balance to other Asian powers.

However, China's trade relations and links with ASEAN are far deeper than India's.

Ian Storey, senior fellow of the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, said many ASEAN nations want to see all major powers playing a role in their region so it is not dominated by one or two players, in particular China.

"So that presence by India in Southeast Asia would provide them additional hedging options," he said.
It is indeed very practical that the party is  judge, legislator, head of the army, executor  and  publisher  all in one in China.

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29042012 Post time: 2012-12-20 23:41
In China's shadow, ASEAN leaders look to India for maritime security

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India should be wary to getting involved. China only has to dam up her rivers. They are all within China's territory anyway.

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abramicus Post time: 2012-12-18 13:12
Zheng Cheng-gong is a Ming patriot who refused to bow to the Qing dynasty, which at that time consis ...

1. Zheng He was not Chinese. He was a Mongol, a Central Asian Muslim. He never touched Manila as his armada were only made towards Indonesia, India, Arab states and beyond.
2. Luzon, Philippines(where I am now) was never invaded by China except a few bandits like Li Ma Hong who somehow escaped fierce Luzon mountain tribe warriors and settled with some of these tribes. Some Igorot tribes are similar to the hill tribes people of Taiwan, Vietnam and Thailand. As regarding Marcos, many people in the Philippines like myself are of Chinese lineage.

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Post time 2012-12-21 02:45:54 |Display all floors

RE: SOUTH SEA ISLANDS HAVE BEEN PART OF CHINA FOR CENTURIES BEFORE THE 9-DASH MA

Eudaimonia Post time: 2012-12-20 20:45
This post is an example of what people should stop doing in this forum.

This thread is about the  ...

The Diaoyu Islands are among the many islands which are under Chinese sovereignty currently in the news. Go back to Greece if you are Greek ...  i.e. if you still have a country to return to!
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Post time 2012-12-21 03:05:09 |Display all floors
History of Diaoyu Islands   Updated: 2012-07-10 11:24       


( History of Diaoyu Islands)

BEIJING - The Diaoyu Islands, which lie in the East China Sea between China and Japan have belonged to China since ancient times.The islands are 120 nautical miles northeast of Taiwan province, 200 nautical miles west of the Chinese mainland and 200 nautical miles east of Japan's southernmost island, Okinawa. Geologically, the islands are attached to Taiwan. The waters around the islands are 100 to 150 meters deep and there is a 2,000-meter-deep oceanic trench between the islets and Okinawa islands.The islands have appeared on maps of China since the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644). Fishermen from Taiwan and Fujian and other provinces have fished and collected herbs in this area for many generations. Records about the islands were published in a book during the rule of Ming emperor Yong Le (1403-1424), more than 400 years before Japan says it discovered the Diaoyu islands in 1884.



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Post time 2012-12-21 03:09:54 |Display all floors
sansukong Post time: 2012-12-21 02:45
The Diaoyu Islands are among the many islands which are under Chinese sovereignty currently in the ...

Look at the thread tittle, are the diaoyu/senkaku islands in the south China sea?  I'm not arguing about the ownsership of the islands, i'm arguing about this not being the proper thread to argue about them. Do you understand? There are a million threads about the diaoyu/senkaku islands in this forum, why not post that there?

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Post time 2012-12-21 03:32:15 |Display all floors

RE: SOUTH SEA ISLANDS HAVE BEEN PART OF CHINA FOR CENTURIES BEFORE THE 9-DASH MA

Eudaimonia Post time: 2012-12-21 02:09
Look at the thread tittle, are the diaoyu/senkaku islands in the south China sea?  I'm not arguing ...

Do you have the special skill of reading with your eyes closed? Why not you try to read with your eyes opened this time and see what else been posted in this thread!
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