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The only way for Taiwan to avoid becoming a casualty of the coming war over Diaoyudao is to fight fire with fire, and first take over Diaoyudao, that prevents China and Japan from going to war over it.  In the end, Taiwan gains the respect and support of China, and the attention of the world as an effective power in the Far East.

Failure to act means Taiwan will become the booty of war all over again.  If China loses, the pro-Japanese traitors will rise up to demand either becoming a protectorate of Japan, or a tearing down of the constitution of the Republic of China.  It will know no peace, aside from losing a huge chunk of its trade with China, worth 20 billion dollars each year at the least.

There is nothing wrong with taking a chance on an event whose results are unpredictable.  We do it everyday when we face risks from events we do not even suspect could happen, like lightning, earthquakes and traffic accidents.  What more when sovereignty is at stake, what could be worth more taking a risk on to defend?

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This post was edited by sansukong at 2012-12-6 15:03

With reference to the map on China's newly issued passports, the mistakes are been identified. What about those culptits who caused those mistakes? Are they too being identified? What remedies and what actions next?  

The only way for Taiwan to avoid becoming a casualty of the coming war over Diaoyudao is to fight fire with fire, and first take over Diaoyudao, that prevents China and Japan from going to war over it.

Given the facts that if China is not adequately prepared to defend the Diaoyudao in earnest, your proposition sounds logical. Letting Taiwan to take over the Diaoyudao is better than losing them to the Japanese.

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This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-2 13:32


You can see a slacking off in the enthusiasm for Diaoyudao with the changing of the guard.  

The passport fiasco forced China into a fight with everyone else but with Japan over Diaoyudao.  In fact, it strengthens Japan's position by provoking other countries like India, Philippines and Vietnam to start placing military units closer to the disputed areas, and for them to at the very least raise international attention to China NOW EXPANDING IN ALL DIRECTIONS, when in truth, China is being expanded into instead on Dioayudao by the Japanese.  

China's insistence on putting a map on its passport and then backtracking that it should not be taken seriously by other countries, while never correcting its omission of Diaoyudao, speaks volumes about its internal lack of oversight, accountability and commitment to the defense of Dioayudao.  In contrast to Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin, Spratleys or Huangyan, China is broadcasting that Diaoyudao can be dropped.

Would not be surprised to find one day a document that it has been sold to Japan.

This is why President Ma Yingjeou cannot assume that the Mainland will actually defend Diaoyudao.  It has used Diaoyudao to stir up patriotic support for its armed forces.  But its armed forces and diplomatic corps have not used such patriotic support to secure Dioayudao.  It is like the charitable organizations supposedly dedicated to helping victims of disasters, where the money you donate for a natural calamity goes partly to the victims, and partly to a "general fund" to be used in other ways as deemed appropriate by its administrators.  The Old Guard has only three months left to do their job, sadly, but the new crop seems uninterested in their old business.  

The current emphasis on China becoming a middle class society is a worthwhile goal.  On the other hand, "Economy First" has been the theme of the pro-Japanese clique for a while in trying to douse the public anger over the loss of Dioayudao to Japan.  They are coming back with a different slogan, aiming to drop Dioayudao from the mind of the people of China, and as already with the passport, from the map of China.

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Post time 2012-12-2 13:46:42 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-2 13:55

Ma Has to Decide If  He Must Act Now and Retake Diaoyudao or Face the Critique of Posterity

The new PRC passport's map of China is a joke.  It does not contain the point of hottest contention in the entire boundary line of China with its neighbors, the Diaoyu islands.  To the patriots fighting for Diaoyudao, it is a betrayal.  It is a signal of the people having been sold out by their highest leaders who say, "It is all right, why make a mountain out of a molehill?"

Because the passport is an official document.  China's failure to include Diaoyudao is an official admission that Dioayudao does not belong to China's sovereign territory.  Other countries may not be obligated to accept it, such as India over Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin, or Vietnam over the Spratleys and Parcels, or the Philippines over the Spratleys and Huangyan, but CHINA HAS TO ACCEPT ITS OWN MAP OVER DIAOYUDAO.

This is why the passport map fiasco of the PRC is very serious to all Chinese.  It is proof that China has sold out Dioayudao at the highest levels, to Japan, particularly when it REFUSES TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE ON THE MAP AFTER IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT.

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Post time 2012-12-2 14:16:43 |Display all floors
This is a very old fight.

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Post time 2012-12-2 17:33:36 |Display all floors
This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-2 17:45


Philippine Unilateralism

It all began on March 14, 2009, when then president Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo passed the Republic of the Philippines Baseline Law which included Scarborough Shoal and the Kalayaan Islands (Spratley) within the sovereign territory of the Philippines.

Then, on April 11, 2012, the Philippines Navy ship, BRP Gregorio del Pilar, captured and boarded two Chinese fishing vessels it found at Scarborough Shoal, claimed also by China as part of its national territory.  China sent two of its own marine surveillance ships to the area to block their seizure by the Philippines, which sent a second ship, from the Philippine Coast Guard, to the same area, beginning a months-long standoff between the two countries.

Philippines Tries to Negate China's Historical Basis for Sovereignty

On April 16, 2012, President Aquino echoed the opinion of Western powers that China's nine-dash line does not conform with the UNCLOS and violated Philippine sovereignty.  Of course, the opposite is the truth, which Aquino was misinformed about, as sovereignty over the Scarborough Shoal can only be based on historical facts, and cannot be changed by UNCLOS which is based on terrotprial sovereignty of the island itself.  While trying to prove that the Philippines had the prior historical claim to Scarborough, the Philippines was at the same time hewing to the Western lie that history is not a basis for claim of sovereignty, only UNCLOS, which in reality, merely bases its EEZ determination on sovereignty established by other means.  So, the Philippine showed it was not really sincere about settling with China the historical question of ownership of the Scarborough Shoal after all.  Some of its columnists even called China's overwhelming proof of historical ownership a "barrage" of maps and historical documents, as if this was not the crux of their dispute!?  If historical proof is not enough, what is?  This is the red flag that tells China that the Philippines was not negotiating on its own behalf, but was acting as a proxy to Western powers to cut down China's historical claims to its islands in the South China Sea.  The Chinese position hardened.

On April 17, 2012, Foreign Affiairs Secretary del Rosario announced the Philippines will take China to the International Tribunal of the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) to settle the dispute.

On April 18, 2012, the Philippines publicly rejected China's historical claims to the Scarborough Shoal, insisting China's sovereignty is determined by the UNCLOS and the ITLOS, which any cursory reading of both organizations bylaws clearly tell you is not the case.  In fact, under UNCLOS, China has the RIGHT to refuse arbitration by the ITLOS.  China was not in violation of the UNCLOS, but the Philippines and the Western powers it was proxying for.  They could not even produce one single line from the UNCLOS to prove that China's sovereignty is determined solely by UNCLOS and ITLOS up to the present.  The argument that UNCLOS is not based on history is a non sequitur, because sovereignty is not based on UNCLOS to begin with, but on history.  This argument was raised in 2009 by the lackeys of the Western powers in prior debates between China and Vietnam, and reinforces China's view that the Philippines is raising the issue of Scarborough Shoals as a proxy for Western powers intent on cutting off its islands and EEZ in the South China Sea, as already evidenced in the Sino-Vietnamese talks.

On April 19, 2012, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China officially exercised its RIGHT under the UNCLOS to reject arbitration by ITLOS, in accordance with the bylaws of the UNCLOS itself.  This was followed the next day by the Philippines declaring China's actions on Scarborough Shoal would affect the entire South China Sea relations between China and its neighbors.  China responded with a strong op-ed in a PLA newspaper warning the US not to be embroiled in this dispute, clearly showing China's understanding that the Philippines was serving, in its view, not as a self-interested party only, but as a proxy of another power.  

On April 23, 2012, as if in answer to China, but actually previously scheduled, the Philippines-US joint military exercise was started, ending on April 27th, with a pledge by the Philippines that it will seek to get US military aid to defend its claim on Scarborough Shoal.  Of course, while the exercise was pre-scheduled, and could not have taken place with the foreknowledge of the Scarborough Standoff, the opposite may still be true, which is that the Scarborough Standoff using a Philippine Navy vessel, instead of a Coast Guard ship, a little less than 2 weeks before, could have been pre-scheduled by design to precede the military exercise.  No doubt, China did not take the message lightly, whether the "coincidence" was designed by the Philippines or the US.  In the meantime, Philippine politicians known for their ties to the US military began suggesting that the US should be allowed to use the Philippines for military basing again, which President Aquino rejected off hand as not in his country's national interest.

Nevertheless, on May 1, 2012, the Philippines Secretary of Defense Voltaire Gazmin and Secretary of Foreign Affairs Albert del Rosario met in Washington, DC, with US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, on a joint show of support obtaing a pledge from the US to help in building the armed forces of the Philippines.  This resulted eventually in the sale of another cutter to the Philippines for some $9 million dollars, rather than an aid that the Philippines would get for free.  Well, the US did give the Philippines some $30 million dollars toward that end, which greatly disappointed the deep pockets in Manila hoping to turn it into their personal capital flight money in short order.

On May 2, 2012, Taiwan joined the fray and declared Huangyan as part of China's sovereign territory (as part of the Republic of China).

On May 8, 2012, China's Defense Minister Wang Guanglie paid a visit to Secretary Panetta to make sure that their signals do not get crossed and end up engaging each other over unintended incidents.  

On May 9, 2012, Philippine Secretary of Foreign Affairs del Rosario reaffirmed that the US reiterated its commitment to the Mutual Defense Treaty of 1951 if the Philippines came under attack.  However, the US Secretary of State Clinton had already said the US is not taking sides on the Scarborough Shoal dispute, which implies it is excluded from the blanket protection of the treaty.

(to be continued)

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This post was edited by abramicus at 2012-12-2 18:20


On May 11, 2012, a mass demonstration took place in the Philippines financial district of Makati demanding China back-off Scarborough Shoal.  It showed how the public can be manipulated by misinformation into acting emotionally, when an ex-mayor took the lead in burning a Chinese flag.  Up to then, the Philippine public has been informed that the Philippines has the prior historical basis for claiming sovereignty to the Scarborough Shoal, ignoring maps that showed the Scarborough shoal as part of China dating back to the Yuan Dynasty that pre-dated the "discovery" of the Philippines by the Portuguese, colonization by Spain, and belated birth as a single country after WWII in 1946.  As a sovereign country, the Philippines was indeed young, and very fortunate that China, for all the centuries it had "discovered" its many fertile islands, never bothered to "conquer" and "civilize" its natives for its own economic gain.  China only claimed a few islands used by its fishermen as safe harbours during storms in the South China Sea and in Scarborough Shoal, and this was deemed "bullying" according to the eloquent but erroneous columns of some of its columnists.

On May 17, 2012, a US nuclear submarine docked at Subic Naval Base in the Philippines on a pre-scheduled refueling stop.  Again, the refueling was pre-scheduled, but the original incident of the arrest of Chinese fishermen in Huangyan could have been intentionally timed to precede this event by one and a half months.  Nobody knows, and Aquino disavowed any secondary motives.  But, he might not have been in the know, as most Philippine presidents are not, when it comes to such internationally meaningful coincidences.


Seeing that the Philippines government had consistently misinformed its own people about the history of the Scarborough Shoal and the South China Sea, encouraged in so doing by other interested powers, and turned greedy by the speculations of billions of dollars of oil and gas reserves supposedly lying under these islands, sometime in May, 2012, China decided to place its map of the SOUTH CHINA SEA and HUANGYAN on its passport.  It thus encompassed all of China's claims in the South China Sea, including Huangyan, plus its past claims on Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin.


At that time, Japan was biding its time, and had an unspoken agreement with China to shelve their dispute over Diaoyudao/Senkaku.  Japan wisely waited for Obama's Pivot to Asia to heat up in the South China Sea, from December of 2011 to May of 2012.  Perhaps, seeing that the Chinese passport did not include Diaoyudao either by mistake, by misunderstanding of Japanese "goodwill", or by bribery, and hearing that Obama is going to pivot into China's backyard, Japan, ever the opportunist, seized the opportunity to find an excuse to officially nationalize Diaoyudao as Senkaku of Japan, using its rightwing Tokyo governnor Ishihara, who announced his plan on May 30, 2012, to buy the islands from its current "owners" with the goal of building landing ports and a lighthouse on it.  Thus on September 11, 2012, shadowing the terrorist attack on America, Japan made its attack on Diaoyudao by officially nationalizing these islands though a "purchase" from its illegal squatter Japanese dealer.


So now, China is stuck with a map that is supposed to be official and can be used against it in any dispute over the sovereignty of Diaoyudao with Japan, while being embroiled in a diplomatic war with the Philippines and India, which are not as belligerent as Japan is.


The correct strategy is to fight Japan and negotiate with the Philippines, while ignoring Vietnam.  The Philippines at least is merely misguided by its academics who lack the guts to speak truth to popularity or to power and keep hiding behind their desks when asked if their Panatag could have been actually "Huangyan" all along, long before the Philippines was even born as a sovereign country.  The Vietnamese are incorrigible liars about what belongs to them, regardless of their knowing the truth about the Paracel Islands.  The Japanese, on the other hand, deserve special treatment as the mass murderers of some 35 million Chinese men, women and children from 1931 to 1945, and as the thieves of Diaoyudao in 1895 right after China lost its Naval Battle of the Yellow Sea in 1894 due to Japanese bribery and corruption of its Chief Minister and Defense Minister Li Hongzhang, who served as Japan's appointed negotiator for China (unheard-of treason).

It all began with Diaoyudao, and must end with Diaoyudao - either China or Japan shall be the victor - one and only one, shall remain on Diaoyudao as the survivor.  


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