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Post time 2012-7-18 22:17:24 |Display all floors
timbatu Post time: 2012-7-18 21:44
Here is the full text of my email:

Dear *****,

How did the girl scouts discriminate against you?

Did they not accept you as a kid?

They allow boys who identify as girls in the scouts now.
  
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Post time 2012-7-18 22:22:18 |Display all floors
Fight Back Against Religious Right; Buy Girl Scout Cookies

By AUSCS, Mon, March 12, 2012
By Rob Boston

I was doing some grocery shopping this weekend, and as I left the store I was persuaded to make one last purchase. Outside were several Girl Scouts sitting at a table surrounded by boxes of cookies. I immediately reached for my wallet.

Girl Scout cookies rock. I’m partial to Thin Mints, Trefoils and Samoas. Plus, my daughter was a member of the Scouts when she was younger, so I’ve always had a soft spot for the organization.

But now there’s an added bonus to buying the cookies: You get to annoy the Religious Right.

Today marks the 100th anniversary of the Girl Scouts, so it’s an especially meaningful time for the organization, its leaders and members. Unfortunately, the anniversary has also sparked a raft of new attacks on the venerable group by Religious Right cranks. The Girls Scouts, you see, are accused of promoting feminism, abortion and godlessness.

This is nothing new. Back in 1994, Focus on the Family blasted the Girl Scouts after the group made a religious oath optional for membership. FOF founder James Dobson asserted that the Girl Scouts had “lost their way” and accused the group of “pushing a philosophy – a philosophy that includes humanism and radical feminism.”

Seven years after that, FOF’s Citizen magazine reprinted a hatchet job on the Girl Scouts that had originally run in the National Review. The article concluded ominously, “There are currently 2.7 million Girl Scouts in the U.S. That’s a lot of liberal feminists to look forward to.”

Two years ago, culture warrior Charles W. Colson piled on in a column, labeling the Girl Scouts dupes for Planned Parenthood. Colson exhorted his followers to boycott the annual cookie sale.

The right-wing attacks on the Girl Scouts are fueled by misinformation and, in some cases, outright lies. For example, the American branch of the Girl Scouts takes no stand on issues like abortion. And their alleged godlessness is also a myth. The Girl Scout Promise includes a vow “to serve God and my country.” Most girls still say it, but it’s no longer required. The Girl Scouts favor inclusion and didn’t want any girl who might feel uncomfortable reciting a religious oath to be excluded.

So what the Religious Right’s real beef with the Girl Scouts? I think it boils down to the fact that the Girl Scouts produce something the Religious Right fears: confident, self-assured women. As we’ve seen in recent weeks, so much of the Religious Right agenda is about control of others. In the case of women, it’s about controlling their reproductive freedom – even to the extent that the theocrats are now trying to undermine access to birth control.

Are the Girl Scouts producing “feminists”? If you define that word as any woman who believes she has the right to determine her own destiny, then yes, they are. As the father of a soon-to-be 18-year-old young woman, I’m thankful for the range of opportunities that await her. My wife and I have worked to give her to skills to take advantage of them. We couldn’t do it alone, and if the Girl Scouts helped bring that about, then more power to them.

The Religious Right will just have to get over it. We aren’t going back.

So take my advice and pick up a couple of extra boxes of Girl Scout cookies this year. If you’re watching your weight or can’t eat the cookies due to allergies, give them to friends as gifts or donate them to a local food bank. You get great-tasting cookies, the Girl Scouts get support and the Religious Right gets a merit badge in impotent intolerance.

Talk about a win-win.               
  
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Post time 2012-7-18 22:23:54 |Display all floors
So which is it?

Are the Girl Scouts part of the religious right or are they targets of the religious right?

See what you have in common with radical christians?

You both hate the girl scouts.

Well done.
  
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Post time 2012-7-19 02:24:48 |Display all floors
JFenix Post time: 2012-7-18 22:17
How did the girl scouts discriminate against you?

Did they not accept you as a kid?

I have personal experience with Girl Scout. Yes, it is an organization hostile to atheism.

Now, for you to see the matter, imagine an organization hostile to America ...

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Post time 2012-7-19 02:25:52 |Display all floors
JFenix Post time: 2012-7-18 22:23
So which is it?

Are the Girl Scouts part of the religious right or are they targets of the religiou ...

JFenix, I do not hate Girl Scouts. You hate me. Tell the world why you should not be monitored by cops?

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Post time 2012-7-19 03:14:53 |Display all floors
timbatu Post time: 2012-7-19 02:25
JFenix, I do not hate Girl Scouts. You hate me. Tell the world why you should not be monitored by  ...

You took issue with the girl scouts going as far to say that they have persecuted you.

Its in your email.

How does that not make you just as much as a nutter as those radical christians?

Even the nutter who said she refused to buy cookies knew that by turning it political there was to potential that she would come off as offensive.

You, on the other hand, can't even comprehend how what you wrote could be considered offensive.  You claimed you 'politely' asked to be taken off the email list.

So even the nutters have you beat here.

To do that politely, you just have to say 'sorry, but no thanks'.   Instead....just as I thought, you had to make yourself a victim by stating your reasons were due to 'persecution'.

That's just plain crazy.  The girl scouts don't go around persecuting people.  Its a club for young girls.  The only people that could claim persecution would be the girls themselves.
  
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Post time 2012-7-19 03:27:23 |Display all floors
timbatu Post time: 2012-7-19 02:24
I have personal experience with Girl Scout. Yes, it is an organization hostile to atheism.

Now,  ...

What is your personal experience?

They wouldn't let you be a girl scout?

Do they send girl scouts out to the homes of atheists and spray paint 'heathen' on their homes or car?

We're talking about a group for young girls.  They go camping, swimming, visit nursing homes, do community service, some cooking and maybe some sewing.....oh...and they sell cookies.

What an evil organization that is!!!  

How can you compare that to an organization that is hostile to a country?

And just how can they be hostile to you?  You're not even a girl and you're way too old to be a scout.

Picking on the girl scouts is no difference than picking on a group of young girls.  It's not cool anywhere.
  
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