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Trade war. Who will win, China or US?   [Copy link] 中文

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MisterPanda Post time: 2012-5-27 18:43
Americans do not want Chinese goods, they want cheap goods. Whether it's made in China or in Tad ...

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MisterPanda Post time: 2012-5-27 18:43
Americans do not want Chinese goods, they want cheap goods. Whether it's made in China or in Tad ...

OK.....who delivers cheap?
China
What country does American businesses what?
China

Who's side are you on Panda man?

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MisterPanda Post time: 2012-5-27 18:44
Malaysia actually...

OK panda man

What super power?

American people owe the most debt.
China buys the most bonds.

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MisterPanda Post time: 2012-5-27 18:44
Malaysia actually...

Malaysia has lousy politics but good geography.

Lousy education but educated people.

........and let's be honest.

Malaysia don't give a sh it about US crisis .



But crisis in Euro land and China will be damaging.
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Post time 2012-5-27 19:57:40 |Display all floors
UYA Post time: 2012-5-27 19:16
OK.....who delivers cheap?
China
What country does American businesses what?

There are two reasons that the US companies produce in China.

1. Cheap labor.

2. Huge potential market.

Now let's do a bit of political fiction and imagine China would ban US companies and American products of the country. What would happen ?

1. The US would lose a huge potential market. But, as we said, it is a POTENTIAL market, not a mature one. Plus we all know full well that American products would still find their ways into Chinese shops. Who then would get this potential market ? Well, China, of course, and maybe the EU if they finally manage to all shoot in the same direction.

2. The US would lose the cheap labor in China but they would reorganize it in Vietnam, Indonesia, etc... Actually they are already investing in these countries so that would just speed up the process. There are countries out there whose labour is even cheaper than China, so the US would not lose much in terms of purchasing power, they would just need to invest more.
For China this would be troublesome for a while because of the unemployment but all these people would quickly find new jobs in Chinese companies or in European or Asian companies.

Meaning China can live without the US and the US can live without China. But by working together they can multiply their wealth.

Who's side are you on Panda man?


I didn't realize I had to pick a side, I was just trying to analyse the situation objectively.
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Post time 2012-5-27 20:33:12 |Display all floors
UYA Post time: 2012-5-27 11:08
Try to find things NOT made or parts made in China.
I remember reading a patriotic American tried  ...

It can be easily remedied by manufacturing it in East Europe, not a big thing
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GermanClown Post time: 2012-5-27 11:10
Chinese economy is not just made out of manufacturing, what matters is which economy is the most s ...

And the small but crucial aspect that know how and technologynis in the US, if matter of survival, these low end jobs can be returned to the States.

Chinese consumers are not going to be meaningful for a very long time since lack of social safety net ensures money is hoarded.

I can see China losing out more than any other Country. The population is an albatross. Her gift and curse as it were
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