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Post time 2011-12-18 12:50:44 |Display all floors
freetofly Post time: 2011-12-18 12:42
This thread is not about China. Don’t make me laugh.
You two are coward. Shame on you.
If I were ...

You're confused. The topic is not about me. It's about Time Magazine choosing the Protester as Person of the Year for 2011.

Do you have anything to say on the topic, if not please go away and keep your personal attacks to yourself. Thank you.
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Post time 2011-12-18 12:58:15 |Display all floors
wowzers Post time: 2011-12-18 12:50
You're confused. The topic is not about me. It's about Time Magazine choosing the Protester as Per ...

Again, you hide behind again?
Do not hide behind the Time.  What do you want to say? What’s your opinion?
So many magazines, so many news, why you choose this one, an obviously biased one?

Please tell me, in this thread, you are talking about China or not?

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Post time 2011-12-18 13:05:26 |Display all floors
freetofly Post time: 2011-12-18 12:58
Again, you hide behind again?
Do not hide behind the Time.  What do you want to say? What’s your ...

How is Time Magazine choosing the Protester "obviously biased"? I don't get it.

And how can you talk about this world-wide phenomonen without talking about China? Better question, why would you not want to talk about it?
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Post time 2011-12-18 13:08:44 |Display all floors
wowzers Post time: 2011-12-18 13:05
How is Time Magazine choosing the Protester "obviously biased"? I don't get it.

And how can you t ...

I care about China. I do want to talk about it
You have worn a pair of colored glasses, so you prefer to believe this news
I am not asking you to believe me
I just want you to open your eyes and think with your own brain
Don't tell me this is from here, that is from there  What's your opinion?
You are living in China
Is the problem that serious?
If you do care about this country and if you do think something is wrong, offer your suggestion instead of just complain

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Post time 2011-12-18 13:15:18 |Display all floors
This post was edited by wowzers at 2011-12-18 13:37

Here's a suggestion, unfetter the Internet, don't close the Chinese people off from the rest of the world. (Bring down the Great Firewall)

Here's another, don't treat artists as criminals because they have ideas how to better the country. (Free Ai Weiwei)

Here's one more, listen to the Petitioners/Protesters don't simply drive them away. (Check out what's being tried in Ningbo, sounds like a good approach to me, “Going to the grass roots” and “engaging in research to find out that true conditions”)

Do you have any suggestions of your own?
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Post time 2011-12-18 13:23:33 |Display all floors
A Novel Approach to Public Anxiety in China: Nip It In the Bud
By Russell Leigh Moses

How should the Communist Party handle growing disquiet in Chinese society?

This question is troubling Chinese policy-makers recently, especially with outrage and discontent stemming from everything from persistent pollution in the nation’s capital and how to measure it to the death of a 10 year-old girl in Xian, struck by a speeding construction truck.

Concerns about public anxiety had already prompted the leadership to look at restlessness earlier this year through the idea of “social management,” which has come to mean different things for different political factions. Leftists have looked to cultural reform or engineering “the moral maturity of each citizen” to stave off rebellion. On the other end of the political spectrum, small-government advocates have hoped for a supervisory role for the public that would lend legitimacy to the Party.

For a while, the debate looked to be gridlocked. But now an alternative for promoting social harmony is being tried in Ningbo, in Zhejiang province. Its approach is far more sophisticated than some might expect: That social discontent might be best managed, not by tightening or loosening the reigns of control, but by cadres going out to talk to people directly about grievances they have filed.

The Ningbo prototype focuses on setting up listening offices for cadres to read petitions, and to hear cases and complaints about anything from waste water discharges to the conditions of replacement housing. Officials at different levels of government are tasked to follow claims of distress from the outset, and to visit the people or local communities that file complaints. Dispute mediation centers, as well as administrative service offices, are staffed to prevent small problems from escalating into social confrontations with Party and government officials.

“Going to the grass roots” and “engaging in research to find out that true conditions”—two major precepts of social stability as advanced by Hu Jintao—are applied here through dialogue, instead of denial or cracking down.

Ningbo’s experiment bypasses arguments about ideology, or where injustice comes from, or whether a new concept of neighborhood is necessary. Instead, “deep-seated contradictions” are simply seen as gaining in strength, and if unaddressed, will impede future economic and social progress. The approach assumes that even the sort of local affluence enjoyed in Ningbo, a coastal city grown wealthy on textile and electronics exports, creates social challenges that are better addressed by a new system of interaction between cadres and the masses.

The Ningbo strategy passed a major test this past week when an advocate of harmony-through-hardline politics, Politburo member and security czar Zhou Yongkang, sounded impressed by a fact-finding visit there. According to an account of his visit by the state-run Xinhua news agency, Zhou said that the pilot project had “unique advantages”—heady stuff from someone better known for addressing social ills through the security forces, instead of through public services.

Zhou is not alone in signaling satisfaction with a softer approach. On Sunday, the Party’s main media outlet, the People’s Daily, highlighted a new policy implemented in the city of Zhenjiang in nearby Jiangsu province of not deleting posts critical of the government but instead using them as a means of gauging public perceptions of shortcomings by officials. “We can’t dodge problems,”the paper quoted Bao Jianguo, director of the city’s Internet Information Office, as saying. “If the problems raised by Internet users really exist, then relevant departments must solve them quickly.”

Such experiments in cities around Shanghai may be a prototype for what former Shanghai Party chief Xi Jingping is planning next year, assuming he succeeds Hu Jintao as China’s president.

Whether these attempts represent a model or just a moment will depend on precisely that sort of political backing from the top. In the midst of a leadership transition, that’s not easy to sustain. After all, we’ve seen these sorts of efforts to be bold and different before, and they usually get filed away or fade away on their own, unrepeated and left to molder. Ningbo might turn out to be one of those experiments that never get quite enough political support to be tried in other places.

But one matter is certain: Some in the Party hierarchy are as nervous about China’s future as the society they’re struggling to govern—and at least a few of them are not waiting for the formal leadership changeover next year to do something about it.
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Post time 2011-12-18 13:34:21 |Display all floors
wowzers Post time: 2011-12-18 13:15
Here's a suggestion, unfetter the Internet, don't close the Chinese people off from the rest of the  ...

Thank you. Finally, you do have some thought in your mind. That is a nice start.

No.1 I don’t know how open for you want to free the internet. But as you can speak freely on this forum, speak more freely won’t be a problem

No. 2 “don't treat artists as criminals because they have ideas how to better the country”
Please don’t say like that, sound like China is the Hell of artists. Almost all of the artists are living happily and display their talents freely. As far as the very few, they must have their own problems

No. 3 How do you know the protesters have not been listened and investigated. Our officials are not so silly  

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