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Post time 2011-6-8 12:17:02 |Display all floors
Originally posted by greendragon at 2011-6-8 12:01
A KMT linked to "Revenue Merchants" based in Hong Kong, Malaya, Singapore, Kobe, San Francisco and London!
while the CCP managed to gain support from "Soviets" in Russia, France.
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KMT was first established and gained support from merchants from Hongkong, Mal.....

After KMT founded modern Republic Chinese government in 1911, CCP established in the same year.

So this year, 2011 is the 100 anniversary for the establishment of Modern Republic of China.
2011 is also the 100 anniversary for the establishment of CCP.
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Originally posted by greendragon at 2011-6-8 12:01
A KMT linked to "Revenue Merchants" based in Hong Kong, Malaya, Singapore, Kobe, San Francisco and London!
while the CCP managed to gain support from "Soviets" in Russia, France.
.
KMT was first established and gained support from merchants from Hongkong, Mal.....

After KMT founded modern Republic Chinese government in 1911, CCP established with the support of Russia in the same year.

So this year, 2011 is the 100 anniversary for the establishment of Modern Republic of China.
2011 is also the 100 anniversary for the establishment of CCP.
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Post time 2011-6-8 12:22:09 |Display all floors
Originally posted by greendragon at 2011-6-8 12:01
A KMT linked to "Revenue Merchants" based in Hong Kong, Malaya, Singapore, Kobe, San Francisco and London!
while the CCP managed to gain support from "Soviets" in Russia, France.
.
KMT was first established and gained support from merchants from Hongkong, Mal.....

After KMT founded modern Republic Chinese government in 1911, CCP established with the support of Russia in the same year.

So this year, 2011 is the 100 a nni vers ary for the establishment of Modern Republic of China.
2011 is also the 100 an niv ers ary for the establishment of CCP.

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Post time 2011-6-8 12:27:39 |Display all floors

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wasn't the kmt and ccp part of the same party prior to 1927 split?

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Post time 2011-6-8 12:30:29 |Display all floors
Originally posted by greendragon at 2011-6-8 12:16
Factional rivalry in China post 1927.

Dr.Sun greatest achievement, was the "collapse of the Qing Dynasty"!
He was unable to create a "civil atmosphere" within the traditional factional interest of China.

The factional fault line occur due to geographic, economic structure of the different regions of the Chinese State!
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Not the "collapse of the Qing Dynasty."

Not with Dr. Sun, Qing Dynasty would collapse too, though the Guangxu Emperor and Cixi Empress launched reforms to save their government. The reform was too late.

The contribution of Dr. Sun is the establishment of modern republic China.
ROC is Republic of China.
PRC is People's Republic of China.

The major ally of Dr. Sun was Russia just after 1911.

After 1927, the major ally of KMT and China is German.

After 1941, the major ally of KMT and China is U.S.A.

Of course, as for Chinese diaspora represented by Chen Jiageng, They contributed a lot to China that time.

In mainland China, most young Chinese know Chen Jiageng, the renowned Singaporean mechant.

Chen Jiageng is the founder of the number 1 university in Fujian province, Xiamen university and Jimei university.

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Post time 2011-6-8 12:36:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by greendragon at 2011-6-8 12:27
wasn't the kmt and ccp part of the same party prior to 1927 split?

Just after 1911, the establishment of Republic of China, the major ally of KMT is Russia.
(The major ally of Chinese Central government in Beijing changed from time to time.  
for example:
The major ally of Zhang Zuolin's government is Japan.)

Do you know "Huangpu military school" (Whampoa Military Academy)?
Chiang kaishek often called him by the headmaster of Humangpu.
This school was partly founded by Russia.

In 2007, KMT began to split itself with CCP.  Of course that time CCP represented Russia that time.

So many Chinese described Zhang Zuolin's government as the representative of Japan.
CCP as the representative of Russia.
KMT as the representative of ...

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Post time 2011-6-8 12:57:59 |Display all floors

All this RIVALRY is a waste of time!

I think the POLITICAL BOSS now is the CCP party + the PLA.

The country now run on TWO TRACKS,
One by the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT - the bureaucracy!
Second by the Semi Autonomous nature of Provincial Affairs - the Citizen guilds, real estate, city trades, industrial guild with diaspora investments!

China is such a VAST STATE, the "Central Bureaucracy" is needed to provide structure - and develop Infrastructure projects, provide grants for SOCIAL SECURITY especially the Basic Education, Basic Health. Fund the Army, Police andthe Bureaucracy.

The Citizen are affected by the Provincial authorities and Provincial guilds!
Vast cities has been build by Municipal/City government + Real Estate Guild + City trades Guilds!
Vast Industrial hubs has been successful due to the Industrial Guild, some state originated guilds (especially in Chongqing, Shenzen, Wuhan, Nanjing) and investment by the diaspora/foreign guilds!

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