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Post time 2010-11-11 15:50:46 |Display all floors
Originally posted by baofeng at 2010-11-11 11:59
Compared to the slavery and mass.aces of natives in (for example) the Belgian Congo ( 10-14 million killed between 1895 and 1910) by Western colonizers, Arabic/Muzlim atrocities were small beer ...


Yes, and the great saviour of the Chinese nation was not averse to casting his people into increased poverty in the name of a political ideology while at the same time causing the deaths of millions of people by appalling economic planning and decision-making. And yet you still laud him.

But when the Anglos did it, they were evil.

Funny that.

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Post time 2010-11-11 16:01:54 |Display all floors
Originally posted by peteraa at 2010-11-11 15:50


Yes, and the great saviour of the Chinese nation was not averse to casting his people into increased poverty in the name of a political ideology while at the same time causing the deaths of mil ...


You're trying to compare what Western colonialism did in Africa to what Mao did in China, which is a bit like comparing apples with grapefruits.

Sure, Mao made mistakes, but he also made China an independent country again, as well as emancipating Chinese women by outlawing polygamy.

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Post time 2010-11-11 16:18:50 |Display all floors
Originally posted by baofeng at 2010-11-11 16:01
Sure, Mao made mistakes, but he also made China an independent country again, as well as emancipating Chinese women by outlawing polygamy...


Oh well, that's OK then.

What's a few million here, a few million there?

One of greatest understatements of the century (and one of the best examples of sweeping it under the carpet) is the statement that 'Mao made mistakes'. And then moving along quickly .....

Apples & grapefruits? Why? You think it is less acceptable for colonialists to do this to a foreign country? Personally, I think doing it to your fellow countrymen is worse.

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Post time 2010-11-11 17:22:51 |Display all floors

A Jihad Story from 1995 - where is the US angst?

Abu Umar Al Harbi came from Madinah Al-Munawarrah to the land of Jihad in Bosnia, after leaving a life of luxury and affluence behind him. Once he arrived at the Front-Line Base Camp, he never went back to the main city. Almost two years he spent at the Front-Line Base Camp, but he never ever wanted to return to the city where there were the worldly attractions, shops and restaurants. He spent all his time in the Camp or in the bunkers on the mountain-tops. Even when he wanted something from the city or from the headquarters, he would tell the brothers to get this from here, get this from his bag which he had in the store room there, or get this and that.

Al-Harbi always used to make the brothers laugh and enjoy themselves. He would create a merry atmosphere wherever he went and thus, he was much loved and very popular amongst all the brothers. If one was to look at him, he would seem like a joker, but during the battles he was like a lion. Although he had a good sense of humour, he had a lot of feelings for the Muslims. When the massacre of the Muslims in Srebenica, 1995, took place, he was very upset, more than other brothers and it pained him a lot.

In Operation Miracle, Harbi was made the commander of a special unit of six brothers. The task appointed to these brothers was to capture three Serb bunkers in the most dangerous terrain on the battlefield. The first Serb bunker in this location was at the top of a large open minefield, unscreened by any trees or bushes. There was only one avenue of approach to this bunker, and that was head on, from the front, as opposed to other bunkers that were usually shielded by trees or steep mounds of earth.

The attack plan was for one brother to fire RPG rockets at the bunker from one side of the field and then the rest of the group would storm the bunker. As the brothers took their positions, a few minutes before the attack was scheduled to begin, the Serbs opened fire across the line, as if they knew that the Mujahideen were about to attack. All the brothers in this unit panicked and whilst, they were thinking about what to do, Al-Harbi began sprinting across the open field towards the Serb bunker, in the face of direct, oncoming fire. The rest of the brothers hesitated before running and shouted to him, 'Are there any mines?' He shouted back:

'ALLAHU-AKBAR!" and carried on running. Upon seeing their leader run, the rest of the brothers began running towards the bunker as well. Al-Harbi reached the opening of the Serb bunker until he was at a distance of 2m from the two Serbs inside the bunker. He was firing straight at them and they were firing straight at him. Just as he killed one Serb, the other one shot Al-Harbi in his forehead, and he fell down shaheed.

The next day, one of the brothers saw Al-Harbi in a dream. His face was extremely white and shining. The brother asked him:

"What happened to you?"

Al-Harbi replied, "The night before the attack, we were in the bunker on the mountain and I fell asleep. During this sleep, I experienced the state of janaba (impurity requiring a bath). When I woke up, I realised that there was no way that I could have a bath in the bunker up on the mountain. So I went into the Operation in a state of janaba."

He knew that in this situation, one just makes tayammum (ablution with soil), prays  and goes, because the Jihad is more important then to return from the mountains to have a bath. Furthermore, he was the Ameer of the whole group and for him to delay the Operation so that he could have a bath was out of the question. Al-Harbi carried on:

"As I was at the Serb bunker, firing inside at them, I felt something tap me on my forehead and then, immediately, I felt two beings take me from beneath each arm and raise me straight up, very fast, into the sky. There, the Angels gave me a bath."

This incident was similar to the incident at the time of the Prophet (SAWS) when his companion Hanzala, was shaheed on the day after his wedding night, before he had time to have a bath. The Prophet (SAWS) commented that the Angels bathed Hanzala.

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Post time 2010-11-11 17:28:37 |Display all floors

Jihad Stories

Notice where most of the people are coming from and this is just a sample.  These saudis are certainly not oppressed by the US.  They don't travel to 'jihad lands' because of anger towards the US from wrong deeds.  It's a drive for power, influence - to spread their form of radical lslam.
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Post time 2010-11-12 02:32:08 |Display all floors
seneca,

How dare you preach to me about hatred?!  As an american, we understand hatred quite well.  The freakin world hates americans.   We are confronted with images of masses of people shouting 'death to america!'.  We are told we are all legitimate targets just for being an american.  There are places we are advised not to travel because the hatred is so bad.   And I'm not looking for sympathy seneca, it bothers me not.  We are told to look at 'why they hate us' - ok, fair enough.  I did that.  So why the double standards?  Repent?  Just how do you want me to repent?  I acknowledge our mistakes and the biggest was supporting the mujahideen in the first freakin place.  What we unleashed against other nations was wrong, wrong, wrong.  We made them stronger, bigger and now they are an international threat.  They cannot be controlled.  I acknowledge our fck ups.

You are the one not seeing this.  Terrorism a response to lslamophobia?  You're not looking at all the facts if you believe that.  They were loving us in bosnia as they gleefully committed war crimes and posed with severed serbian heads.  Fck you!

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Post time 2010-11-12 03:36:02 |Display all floors
You know what I find suspicious about you seneca?  Your lack of condemnation for US policy that propped up holy warriors against the russians and the serbs.  Do you not see that as wrong?  Screw lslamophobia, you are slavophobic.  I suppose you think they were righteous in their crusade against the godless communists?  They're really just a bunch of good guys fighting against evil?  Is that it?  Andif that is so, you support this kind of american policy as long as it isdirected towards people you hate?

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