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Post time 2010-11-10 18:56:44 |Display all floors
kyosan, what is your opinion about the recent attacks on christian groups in iraq?

Is this also due to anger over US policy?  No!  It's all over some allegations of a christian coptic church in egypt.  Somehow targeting any christian is valid due to one church in Egypt.
How is this acting out against the wrongs of the US?

The US can be blamed for taking out saddam, who ruled with an iron fist to keep things like this in check.  But not for all the madness behind their thinking and actions.

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Post time 2010-11-11 06:48:21 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2010-11-11 00:30
If we had more 'do-gooders' the Islamists might refrain from becoming Islamicists. As I see it, every Islamist is confronted by ten Islamophobes a day. How can you bear this without turning bitter?...


This is exactly the problem - this kind of thinking.  It's not islamophobes that are making people strap bombs on themselves or plot to blow up western targets.  Bitterness, yes, but that is not what is driving the radicalization.  It is used and played up - very similar tactic to how the US uses human rights issues - exploit the emotional quotient.  But just as the US has never gone to war on human rights issues, the lslamists also, have bigger agendas.  

You asked before about where they came from and why have they multiplied.  It's a complex question, but just think about it for a moment.  It all started when the US supported the mujahideen against the soviets.  We provided materials, financing, training, etc.  We covertly supported them after the war as well to destabilize the soviet union and later russia.  They got a bigger boost in the nineties with the bosnian war.  It wasn'tlslamophobia then that created the terrorist mindset.  It was fostered, rewarded, encouraged even.  Go back and read literature from the lslamic groups from the nineties.  They had the same thinking, same ideology, same strategies.

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Post time 2010-11-11 08:11:46 |Display all floors

Inside Jobs

9/11 and 7/7 were inside jobs.This is hard verifiable fact.

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Post time 2010-11-11 08:18:43 |Display all floors

Zionism

Zionism is the root cause of most of the world's problems.War,pollution,fast food,Frankenstein food,sodomy,
gender role reversal,nuclear weapons,nuclear tests,consumerism,state terror,fase flag black ops.

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Post time 2010-11-11 08:25:57 |Display all floors

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Why doesn't the fiend worry about meltdowns at reactors,release of radioactive material at nuclear weapons
facilities all around the world ? No one has heard about the plutonium pit machining facilities at Rocky Flats
near Denver and the Hanford pit machining facility in Washington State.Or the Pantex nuclear weapon site in
Texas.All of which released radiation.

The world conducted 2053 nuclear tests.I believe the combined yield was 29,000 Hiroshimas.The evil
monstrous Zionist media doesn't tell you that.

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Post time 2010-11-11 10:00:12 |Display all floors
Originally posted by petera at 2010-11-11 08:25
The evil monstrous Zionist media doesn't tell you that....


Then I guess the following story form the 'evil monstrous Zionist media' is a conspiracy and it didn't really happen. It will be interestin gto see how Petera defends this report (or more likely just ignore it wit ha rant about the evil west ....).

Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan 'for blasphemy'
Telegraph 11 Nov 2010
A Christian woman has been sentenced to hang in Pakistan after being convicted of defaming the Prophet Mo ham med.

Asia Bibi, a 45-year-old mother-of-five, denies blasphemy and told investigators that she was being per sec uted for her faith in a country where Christians face routine har ass ment and dis crim ination.

Christian groups and hu man  rig hts campaigners condemned the verdict and called for the blasphemy laws to be repealed.

Her supporters say she will now appeal against the sentence handed down in a local court in the town of Sheikhupura, near Lahore, Pakistan.

Ashiq Masih, her husband, said he had not had the heart to break the news to two of their children.

"I haven't told two of my younger daughters about the court's decision," he said. "They asked me many times about their mother but I can't get the courage to tell them that the judge has sentenced their mother to ca pit al  pun ish ment  for a crime she never committed." Mrs Bibi has been held in prison since June last year.

The court heard she had been working as a farmhand in fields with other women, when she was asked to fetch drinking water.

Some of the other women – all Mu. slims – refused to drink the water as it had been brought by a Christian and was therefore "unclean", according to Mrs Bibi's evidence, sparking a row.

The incident was forgotten until a few days later when Mrs Bibi said she was set upon by a mob.

The police were called and took her to a police station for her own safety.

Shahzad Kamran, of the Sharing Life Ministry Pakistan, said: "The police were under pressure from this Mu slim mob, including clerics, asking for Asia to be killed because she had spoken ill of the Prophet Mo ham med.

"So after the police saved her life they then registered a blasphemy case against her." He added that she had been held in isolation for more than a year before being sentenced to death on Monday.

"The trial was clear," he said. "She was innocent and did not say those words." Earlier this year, Pakistan's internet service providers were ordered to block Facebook to prevent access to supposedly blasphemous images.

Hu man  rig hts  groups believe the law is often used to dis crim inate against religious mi nor ities, such as the country's estimated three million Christians.

Although no one has ever been executed under Pakistan's blasphemy laws – most are freed on appeal – as many as 10 people are thought to have been murdered while on trial.

Ali Hasan Dayan, of Human Rights Watch, said the blasphemy laws were out of step with rig hts  guaranteed under Pakistan's constitution and should be repealed.

"It's an obscene law," he said. "Essentially the blasphemy law is used as a tool of persecution and to settle other scores that are nothing to do with religion.

"It makes religious min ori ties particularly vulnerable because it's often used against them."

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Post time 2010-11-11 10:00:50 |Display all floors
Originally posted by petera at 2010-11-11 08:25
The evil monstrous Zionist media doesn't tell you that....


Then I guess the following story form the 'evil monstrous Zionist media' is a conspiracy and it didn't really happen. It will be interestin gto see how Petera defends this report (or more likely just ignore it wit ha rant about the evil west ....).

Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan 'for blasphemy'
Telegraph 11 Nov 2010
A Christian woman has been sentenced to hang in Pakistan after being convicted of defaming the Prophet Mo ham med.

Asia Bibi, a 45-year-old mother-of-five, denies blasphemy and told investigators that she was being per sec uted for her faith in a country where Christians face routine har ass ment and dis crim ination.

Christian groups and hu man  rig hts campaigners condemned the verdict and called for the blasphemy laws to be repealed.

Her supporters say she will now appeal against the sentence handed down in a local court in the town of Sheikhupura, near Lahore, Pakistan.

Ashiq Masih, her husband, said he had not had the heart to break the news to two of their children.

"I haven't told two of my younger daughters about the court's decision," he said. "They asked me many times about their mother but I can't get the courage to tell them that the judge has sentenced their mother to ca pit al  pun ish ment  for a crime she never committed." Mrs Bibi has been held in prison since June last year.

The court heard she had been working as a farmhand in fields with other women, when she was asked to fetch drinking water.

Some of the other women – all Mu. slims – refused to drink the water as it had been brought by a Christian and was therefore "unclean", according to Mrs Bibi's evidence, sparking a row.

The incident was forgotten until a few days later when Mrs Bibi said she was set upon by a mob.

The police were called and took her to a police station for her own safety.

Shahzad Kamran, of the Sharing Life Ministry Pakistan, said: "The police were under pressure from this Mu slim mob, including clerics, asking for Asia to be killed because she had spoken ill of the Prophet Mo ham med.

"So after the police saved her life they then registered a blasphemy case against her." He added that she had been held in isolation for more than a year before being sentenced to death on Monday.

"The trial was clear," he said. "She was innocent and did not say those words." Earlier this year, Pakistan's internet service providers were ordered to block Facebook to prevent access to supposedly blasphemous images.

Hu man  rig hts  groups believe the law is often used to dis crim inate against religious mi nor ities, such as the country's estimated three million Christians.

Although no one has ever been executed under Pakistan's blasphemy laws – most are freed on appeal – as many as 10 people are thought to have been murdered while on trial.

Ali Hasan Dayan, of Hu ma n   Rig hts  Watch, said the blasphemy laws were out of step with rig hts  guaranteed under Pakistan's constitution and should be repealed.

"It's an obscene law," he said. "Essentially the blasphemy law is used as a tool of persecution and to settle other scores that are nothing to do with religion.

"It makes religious min ori ties particularly vulnerable because it's often used against them."

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