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Post time 2010-2-11 01:38:18 |Display all floors
Originally posted by liuyedao at 2010-2-11 01:29

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Korean border is only several kilometers from China.

US closest distance to Korea are several thousand miles.

So, who is the expansionist?

Don't use your illusion please.



You deny China attacked peaceful South Korea???

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Post time 2010-2-11 01:48:49 |Display all floors
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Post time 2010-2-11 02:01:44 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Desaview at 2010-2-11 01:48



eso...enough of your provocations...how did this school teacher get through the quality checks of the Ministry?

first...that war is not with Korea...it is with yankees..........


Wrong it was very much a war of aggression and attempted occupation of peaceful South Korea

The invasion of South Korea came as a surprise to the United Nations. In the preceding week, Acheson had told the United States Congress on June 20 no such war was likely. The same day the war had officially begun (June 25), the United Nations immediately drafted UNSC Resolution 82, which called for:

all hostilities to end and North Korea to withdraw to the 38th Parallel;
a UN Commission on Korea to be formed to monitor the situation and report to the Security Council;
all UN members to support the United Nations in achieving this, and refrain from providing assistance to the North Korean authorities.

The resolution was unanimously passed in the Security Council thanks to the temporary Soviet absence from the Security Council. With the Soviets absent and unable to veto the resolution, and with only Yugoslavia abstaining, the UN voted to aid South Korea on June 27. The resolution led to direct action by the United States, whose forces were joined by troops and supplies from 15 other UN members: Canada, Australia, New Zealand, UK, France, South Africa, Turkey, Thailand, Greece, the Netherlands, Ethiopia, Colombia, the Philippines, Belgium and Luxembourg. However, the United States provided 50% of the ground forces (South Korea provided most of the remainder), 86% of the naval power, and 93% of the air power.

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Post time 2010-2-11 02:08:49 |Display all floors
Originally posted by Desaview at 2010-2-11 01:48



eso...enough of your provocations...how did this school teacher get through the quality checks of the Ministry?

first...that war is not with Korea...it is with yankees..........



you would like to harass my family or put up pictures of my family on the internet???

maybe put me in jail because the truth is uncomfortable to you???

perhaps you would like to censor the truth, because you cannot reasonably debate with me???

South Korea was attacked before America was even involved........it seems you are in need of some education.

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Post time 2010-2-11 02:48:36 |Display all floors

Korea and the United Nations

Seems like "EsoteRisky" is re-writing history or pulling bits and pieces from it to support his blinkered view.

The United Nations was chartered in June 1945. Although first expounded by FDR, it was Harry S Truman who led the initiative after WW2

It was used by Truman and subsequent administrations to contain communism because the West felt very vulnerable to this political concept (why?). Whatever resolutions the UN passed in those years were designed to further the interest of the West with no regard for other people whatsoever. Concurrently the USofA ushered in the infamous, repressive McCarthy regime.

In 1945, as part of the surrender of Japan, USofA working together with Russia split Korea into two parts along the 38th parallel, thus the CPRK and ROK. China under CKS had no say in that.

In June 1950, DPRK launched a surprise attack across the 38th. China was in the midst of a civil war, neither Mao nor CKS had any say in it. Neither party was in a position to get involved in Korea.

By the end of 1950, the DPRK army was destroyed and MacArthur was on the Yalu.

But MacArthur did not want to stop there. He disregarded Truman's instructions to limit the war to Korea and proposed to invade and to nuke China. The new Chinese government under Mao had its back to the wall, Chinese troops moved into North Korea to prevent USofA, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand from invading China and killing Chinese.

The UN resolutions, if adopted by China, would have meant that China become a disenfranchised, third class world citizen, the "Weak Man of Asia", again. And MacArthur would be heading his defacto government in Beijing. MacArthur was on a rampage and exceeded his authority. He was fired, but not before he did his bit of damage.

Yes, the DPRK caused a lot of problems, but no the Chinese did not start the war, we merely defended ourselves from further aggression. Somebody had to stand up for China, Mao did!

And no, much as Esoterisky would like to see that happen, China is no longer the "Weak Man in Asia". You can of course put it to the test by adopting the MacArthur strategy, but I'd advise against that.

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Post time 2010-2-11 02:55:48 |Display all floors

Whose truth?

Originally posted by esoteriksky at 2010-2-11 02:08
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perhaps you would like to censor the truth, because you cannot reasonably debate with me??? ...


It is axiomatic that the victor writes the history and the victor's version of  the "truth".

But you are not the victor, there is no victor.

So which version of the "truth" are you showing us?
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Post time 2010-2-11 02:59:20 |Display all floors

The War Against Paranoia

Originally posted by Desaview at 2010-2-11 01:48

eso...enough of your provocations...how did this school teacher get through the quality checks of the Ministry?

first...that war is not with Korea...it is with yankees..........



Not quite true.

The war was with widespread paranoia and with MacArthur's megalomania.
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