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Post time 2008-2-16 00:23:01 |Display all floors
A bit about British atrocities - highlights from:

http://mondediplo.com/2005/05/02empire

Britain: imperial nostalgia

By Seumas Milne

...But even more bizarre is the implication that Britain is forever apologising for its empire or the crimes committed under it. As with other European former colonial powers, nothing could be further from the truth. There have been no apologies. ....

The Wall Street Journal even illustrated an editorial on the subject with a picture of the British colonialist Lord Kitchener, who slaughtered the Mahdi’s followers in Sudan a century before.....

By spring 2002 Blair’s foreign policy adviser and Afghan envoy, Robert Cooper (now working for Javier Solana at the European Union council of ministers), published a pamphlet making the case for “a new kind of imperialism, one acceptable to a world of human rights and cosmopolitan views”, while the prime minister privately argued in favour of military intervention in the former British colonies of Zimbabwe and Burma.

... the latest research on the huge scale of atrocities committed by British forces during the Mau Mau rebellion in colonial Kenya in the 1950s: the 320,000 Kikuyu held in concentration camps, the 1,090 hangings, the terrorisation of villages, electric shocks, beatings and mass rape documented in Caroline Elkins’s book Britain’s Gulag - and well over 100,000 deaths. This was a time when British soldiers were paid five shillings (equal to $9 in today’s money) for each Kikuyu male they killed, when they nailed the limbs of African guerrillas to crossroads posts. And when they were photographed holding severed heads of Malayan communist “terrorists” in another war that cost over 10,000 lives.

Even in the late 1960s, as veterans described in a recent television documentary, British soldiers thrashed, tortured and murdered their way through Aden’s Crater City; one former squaddie explained that he couldn’t go into details because of the risk of war crimes prosecutions. All in the name of civilisation. The sense of continuity with today’s Iraq could not be clearer.

Such evidence is a timely corrective to the comfortable British mythology that, in contrast to France and other European colonial powers, Britain decolonised in a peaceful and humane manner. It’s not as if these end-of-empire episodes were isolated blemishes on a glorious record of freedom and good governance, as Ferguson and other contemporary imperial torchbearers would have us believe. Britain’s empire was in reality built on genocide, vast ethnic cleansing, slavery, rigorously enforced racial hierarchy and merciless exploitation. As the Cambridge historian Richard Drayton puts it: “We hear a lot about the rule of law, incorruptible government and economic progress - the reality was tyranny, oppression, poverty and the unnecessary deaths of countless millions of human beings”.

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So, contrary to what a poster here claims, that Western atrocities are about the past, such atrocities have actually continued to the present day. Another commentary (abridged) from James Petras in:

http://www.rebelion.org/petras/english/030410iraq.htm

Iraq : The Irony of History

Among the most insidious lies and distortions which the Bush/Blair regimes and their mass media outlets have spouted to justify this genocidal war is the notion that the Iraqi people would welcome the invaders as liberators and they (especially the Shiites) would rise up to overthrow the regime of Saddam Hussein. When neither events took place - the Iraqi population is hostile to the invaders - the Anglo-US state media campaign claimed it was due to their fear of the Iraqi army, the Baath Party cadres, and the local militia. The media continued to picture the Iraqi people 'terrorized' by Saddam Hussein and waiting for the US to destroy his regime before expressing their 'true feelings' of gratitude to the invaders, their tanks, missiles and fragmentation bombs.

The heavy bombing of Basra and the British siege of the city was due to the fact that citizens, militia and soldiers fought together - not out of coercion by Saddam Hussein - but because they were Iraqi patriots defending their families, communities and nation from genocidal invaders. Whatever opposition to the regime that may have existed disappeared in the face of the massive bombardment, killing and maiming of thousands of Iraqi children, women, elders and ordinary citizens. Rumsfeld's 'total war' united the diverse political and social sectors of the Iraqi population in villages, towns and cities. Elderly peasants shot at convoys, pregnant women blew up U.S. Marines, adolescents shot at helicopters from rooftops…In the south Basra, Al-Najaf and large parts of Al-Nasiriya have not been taken despite weeks of aerial and artillery bombardment. The US-Anglo invading forces finding universal hostility and rejection have begun to indiscriminantly shoot young men for wearing the wrong type of boots and women with their huge flowing robes; above all the general command directed the airforce to use fragmentation bombs to decimate urban neighborhoods.

The local militia are not merely Baath activists, they are mostly non-political Iraqis infuriated by the death and mutilation of friends and family, the destruction of homes, schools, factories, offices and their livelihood. Baath activists mix with thousands of volunteers from poor neighborhoods and middle class exiles who have returned to fight for the Iraqi nation.

The distinctions that Western media make in portraying Iraqi resistance is false - under the conditions of a genocidal war - because bombs and missiles make no distinctions in their murderous assaults.

The Western state mass media portray Saddam Hussein as a 'dictator', a tyrant, a 'Hitler' who is hated by his people. That might have been the case among some sectors of the population before the war, but faced with the Anglo-US terror bombing, the seizure of oil wells, the occupation of the country and destruction of water, electrical and food supplies, Saddam Hussein's rejection and resistance has converted him into a popular national hero.

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Post time 2008-2-16 03:14:37 |Display all floors
Originally posted by laincoubert at 15-2-2008 15:01
what country hosting the Olympics is safe from any criticism?


Over the matter in question, China is in a singular position of influence. But more generally, not that many countries have clean records.

But anyone is free to protest/complain about what any country does. As I said to northwest, as Spielberg can withdraw from a contract in regards to the 2008 Beijing Olympics, a Chinese person can boycott the 2012 London Olympics. It's up to the individual.

Though personally I've always thought the Olympics should move to Greece and have a permanent residence at Olympia (or nearby). I think far too much money is wasted on moving the event around every 4 years. Sure there will be a good spectacle in Beijing and London but really that should not be the future way of hosting the event. If China is to spend tens of billions of dollars, the UK up to £9 billion, etc imagine what could be done with that money to help global poverty and suffering.

But I guess the IOC will never do that because they get to feel very self-important with the big shows moving around.......
"People are the water, the ruler is the boat; water can carry the boat, but it can also capsize it."

-- Li Shimin (2nd Tang Emperor, "Taizong")

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Post time 2008-2-16 03:39:06 |Display all floors

The western idles .

We have already given this Spielberg dummy too much time and space.  He is after all just a Hollywood director of movies , nothing else . The likes of the American idles : Farrow , Gere and now Spielberg , plus the other nincompoops like Tutu and of course Bonnie Charles are what the Chinese describe as "  Too much time on hand :  gorged themselves silly with food and now waiting for  bowel evacuation " . The Big Brother syndrome of celebration of the mediocre !

Mencius my sandpit buddy is here , alone and unafraid , fighting the good fight in defense of the lame, limp and lazy . He offers nothing valid just more and more nonsense as we go . UK is front and center in war crimes in Iraq , why should London host the next Game ? Why don't these dumbed down bozos complain about the US / UK alliance in propping up Saudi Arabia and Israel as they DO nasty things to their neighbors and leave China , who has no soldier on Sudanese soil , alone ?

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Post time 2008-2-16 08:00:57 |Display all floors
I have a question and I want it answered with facts not inuendo or misleading retoric , did China sign a deal for 79% of the gross oil production of an African nation in exhcange for weapons and humanitarian aid ?
There are no Ugly women , only those with low self esteem .

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Post time 2008-2-16 08:06:05 |Display all floors
Originally posted by cyberspook at 2008-2-16 08:00
I have a question and I want it answered with facts not inuendo or misleading retoric , did China sign a deal for 79% of the gross oil production of an African nation in exhcange for weapons and hu ...


What if it was for 100 %? Does it make any difference to the argument?
You will reap what you sow!

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Post time 2008-2-16 12:40:16 |Display all floors
yes it does , it means that China is going down the same road as America , showing the world one face and behind closed doors making financial deals that will mean death for some in exchange for profits , sounds familiar doesn't it .
There are no Ugly women , only those with low self esteem .

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Post time 2008-2-16 12:45:35 |Display all floors
Originally posted by cyberspook at 2008-2-16 08:00
I have a question and I want it answered with facts not inuendo or misleading retoric , did China sign a deal for 79% of the gross oil production of an African nation in exhcange for weapons and hu ...


So this is the issue? Because China got more oil, when at the same time the west get tiny fraction of it?

It's not about human rights or 'genocide'. It's oil.

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