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Post time 2007-10-16 05:22:45 |Display all floors


Legalise all drugs: chief constable demands end to 'immoral laws'
By Jonathan Brown and David Langton
Published: 15 October 2007

One of Britain's most senior police officers is to call for all drugs – including heroin and cocaine – to be legalised and urges the Government to declare an end to the "failed" war on illegal narcotics.

Richard Brunstrom, the Chief Constable of North Wales, advocates an end to UK drug policy based on "prohibition". His comments come as the Home Office this week ends the process of gathering expert advice looking at the next 10 years of strategy.

In his radical analysis, which he will present to the North Wales Police Authority today, Mr Brunstrom points out that illegal drugs are now cheaper and more plentiful than ever before.

The number of users has soared while drug-related crime is rising with narcotics now supporting a worldwide business empire second only in value to oil. "If policy on drugs is in future to be pragmatic not moralistic, driven by ethics not dogma, then the current prohibitionist stance will have to be swept away as both unworkable and immoral, to be replaced with an evidence-based unified system (specifically including tobacco and alcohol) aimed at minimisation of harms to society," he will say.

The demand will not find favour in Downing Street. In his conference speech this year, Gordon Brown signalled an intensification of the existing battle. "We will send out a clear message that drugs are never going to be decriminalised," the Prime Minister told the party.

The Tories also rejected the proposals. David Davis, the shadow Home Secretary, said a more effective move would be the creation of a UK border police force to stop drugs getting into the country as well as expanding rehabilitation centres. He added: "We would put police on the streets to catch and deter drug dealers and we would ensure sufficient prison capacity so they could actually be punished."

Mr Brunstrom, whose championing of speed cameras has made him a hate figure among some motoring groups, also found his suggestion that the war on drugs was unwinnable dismissed as a "counsel of despair" by the Association of Chief Police Officers. "Moving to total legalisation would, in our view, greatly exacerbate the harm to people in this country, not reduce it," an Acpo spokeswoman said.

But the 30-page report, entitled Drugs Policy – a radical look ahead, includes a number of persuasive voices. Today Mr Brunstrom will urge his colleagues to submit the paper to Westminster and the Welsh Assembly. In it, he quotes the findings in March this year of a Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts commission, which stated that "the law as it stands is not fit for purpose" and argues for the replacement of the 1971 Misuse of Drugs Act with a new Misuse of Substances Act.

That would mean scrapping the ABC system introduced by the home secretary James Callaghan with a new scale that assesses substances, including alcohol and tobacco, in relation to the harm they cause – although he admits banning booze and cigarettes is not likely.

But he notes that figures from the Chief Medical Officer have found that, in Scotland, 13,000 people died from tobacco-related use in 2004 while 2,052 died as a result of alcohol. Illegal drugs, meanwhile, accounted for 356 deaths. The maximum penalty for possessing a class A drug is 14 years in prison while supplying it carries a life term.
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Whampoa
When asked what they least admired about the West, they replied
MORAL DECAY, PROMISCUITY and pornography which...
DEGRADED women.

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Post time 2007-10-16 06:44:17 |Display all floors
Now this is an age old debate that could do with a re visit , personally I have never smoked , used drugs , or drank alcohol but I have lived with people that show the effects of doing so , that is one of the reasons I do not and will not indulge , and yet I support  the legalisation of drugs , I believe only through legalisation can you hurt the people that truly deserve it , the dealers and the untouchable business men behind this insidious trade , I don't believe that it has all the answers but I do believe that it is time to try something else , it is plain to see that current thinking and legislation has not curtailed this profitable trade , it's time for a new direction .
There are no Ugly women , only those with low self esteem .

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Post time 2007-10-16 07:29:50 |Display all floors

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Let the lemmings do as they wish.

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Post time 2007-10-16 08:01:58 |Display all floors
I agree with #2--what's wrong with a trial period of 10 years or so? America tried outlawing alcohol many years ago (same idea as legalizing drugs, but the reverse), and it didn't work, so they changed the laws back. Obviously whatever's being done now isn't working, so some fresh ideas might not be a bad thing.

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Post time 2007-10-16 21:57:23 |Display all floors
problem with that is you'd never get the toothpaste back in the tube if the 10 year trial was a bad plan
especially with a generation of publicly endorsed addicts

as for the death tolls at the bottom of the article, dead is dead.  Let's compare the life the average smoker leads compared to the average crack addict.  

I think this guy's been sampling too much evidence if you know what I mean.
A riot is an ugly thing.... and I think it's just about time we had one.

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Post time 2007-10-17 16:00:58 |Display all floors
Originally posted by scarylaowei at 2007-10-16 21:57
problem with that is you'd never get the toothpaste back in the tube if the 10 year trial was a bad plan
especially with a generation of publicly endorsed addicts

as for the death tolls at the  ...


i can tell u the many addicts dies here young at 40-50

some crashing thier bikes into walls 'cos of the high
What's on your mind now........ooooooooooooooo la la....Kind Regards

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Post time 2007-10-17 16:53:57 |Display all floors

Blah blah blah ...

The lying racist Singaporean Whampoa's dislike of the British is hypocritical since the British did much to establish Singapore

As for the Malaysian weasel caringhk, don’t forget how badly the Malays and Tamils have sometime been treated by the majority race in Singapore
Take me down to the paradise city, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty

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