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Originally posted by karenb at 2007-4-28 07:58
Mr. Northwest, you indicated that it was my objective "to Christianize China and make it subordinate to your culture."
You are right that it is my desire that Chinese people enjoy a relationship with the God that created them. But you are wrong that I want them to be subordinate to my culture.
Subordinate, yes. Subordinate to Western culture, NO! .
That's disgusting, by claiming that your god created us. We are not subordinate to your warmongering god. We fully control our own fate and your god are no more superior than anything within Chinese civilization. The myth about how god created the world in 6 days is still myth, not a fact how world created.
If you really believe your god is almighty and powerful, maybe you should just pray to him to wipe out your enemies from Jerusalem, leave us alone.
Your nasty politics is simply to consolidate position in China, a virgin soul market, to support your political cause using intolerant religious doctrines.
Then subordinate to what culture? A culture that is "out of this world."
Romans 12:2 (from the Bible) says, "Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."
Some of the following verses (9-21) explain what this "culture" entails:
-Love must be sincere
-Hate what is evil, cling to what is good
-Be devoted to one another in brotherly love
-Be joyful in hope
-Be patient in trouble
-Share with those who are in need
-Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse
-Rejoice with those who rejoice, mourn with those who mourn
-Live in harmony with one another
-Do not take revenge
-If your enemy is hungry, feed him, if he is thirsty, give him something to drink
-Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good ...
These records contain countless contradictions. Both the Koran and the Bible's Old and New Testaments bear witness to a good and merciful God. They urge humans to live in peace and harmony. This is reflected most clearly in the instruction attributed to Jesus in the Hebrew Bible: "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
But these messages of brotherhood clash with sentiments that condone intolerance and violence: "For I came to set a son against his father, a daughter against her mother ..."; "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me"; "Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword." The prophet Mohammed also delivered harsh threats from Allah: "Fear the fire prepared for the infidels."
Throughout history, the Abrahamic religions' claim of absolute authority has exerted an irresistible appeal on fanatics, encouraging them to impose their own faith on nonbelievers and dissidents alike - if need be by using fire and the sword. To this day, nearly all religions supply the kindling that fuels wars and acts of persecution, sparks torture and murder, and inflames ethnic hatred. Examples abound: the bloody wars between Hindus and Muslims in India, or the enmity between Muslims and Christians in Indonesia.
For centuries, it seemed that the Abrahamic religions had come to terms with - and discarded - extremism. In the case of Christianity, this dates back to the Enlightenment, when the symbiosis between church and state collapsed and a new system of ethics emerged - one that was independent of faith in God and derived solely from social consensus.
Your religion is of a violent doctrine demand absolute obedience, even surpasssing respect from your own parents.
By claiming the whole world must obey him is simply insane. The muslim also demand so for their god, so what we have? Wars.
[ Last edited by northwest at 2007-5-24 08:43 PM ]