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Post time 2005-9-25 17:10:21 |Display all floors
India sent missionaries, China sending back pilgrims. It is a striking fact that in all relations between the two civilizations, the Chinese were always the recipient and the Indian the donor. Indian influence prevailed over the Chinese, and for evident reasons: an undoubted cultural superiority owing to much greater philosophic and religious insight, and also to a far more flexible script.

India conquered and dominated China culturally for two thousand years without ever having to send a single soldier across her border. India never imposed her ideas or culture on any nation by military force, not even on the small countries in her neighborhood, and in the case of China, it would have been virtually impossible to do so since China has been the more powerful of the two. So the expansion of Indian culture into China is a monument to human understanding and cultural co-operation - the outcome of a voluntary quest for learning. While China almost completely suppressed other foreign religions, such as Zoranstrianism, Nestorian Christianity, and to some extent Manichaeanism, she could not uproot Buddhism. At times, Buddhism was persecuted, but for two thousand years it continued to Indianize Chinese life even after it had ceased to be a vital force in the homeland and long after it had lost its place as the dominant religion of China. In fact, Indianization became more powerful and effective after it was thought that Buddhism had been killed in China.

The introduction of Buddhism from India is one of the most important events in Chinese history, and since its inception it has been a major factor in Chinese civilization. The Chinese have freely acknowledged their debt to India, often referring to her as the "Teacher of China," and Chinese Buddhists have pictured India as a Western Paradise, Sukhavati. That Chinese philosophy blossomed afresh after the impact of Buddhism indicates both a response to and a borrowing of Indian ideas. The advent of Buddhism meant for many Chinese a new way of life, and for all Chinese, a means of reassessing their traditional beliefs. A new conception of the universe developed, and the entire Chinese way of life was slowly but surely altered. The change was so gradual and so universal that few people realized it was happening.

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Post time 2005-9-25 19:30:59 |Display all floors

I have another view

Who can deny the great spiritual contributions of India to the world?

No one.

But your use of the word "conquered" is problematic.

China is a civilization that is open-minded and not afraid to absorb the best from all other cultures.  Your mention of Buddhism simply proves the case.

That is the mindset needed for a world culture.  Nothing can be imposed by force. Everything needs to be appreciated for its real worth by the receiving party.

OTOH, India has stagnated in all fields except theological pursuits, and was eventually conquered by the Brits even in the language used by the great majority of its educated citizenry.

I had been to India.  The populace, like all ancient peoples from Beirut to Xian, have potentials as much as everyone else.

But India has too many endemic problems, not the least of which is its well-ensconsced bureaucracy.

Unlike China, it has had no revolutionary tradition and much of the old habits die hard hindering its real progress.

Any cursory examination of the transportation systems in India can tell you that much remains to be done.

I had to kick into a window to get onto a train in New Delhi going to Calcutta.

Every time I read India Times I shuttered at the thought that when she was down, China was trounced in the Indian press totally out of jealousy and not fair play based on mutual needs as good neighbors.

I wish your country well, although she had been far too unfriendly to China when she could from the 1960s on.  

A lot of patch-up work needs to be done.

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Post time 2015-7-12 10:39:46 |Display all floors
We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.
- Albert Einstein

If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.
- Max Mueller (German scholar)

India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. Our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only.
- Mark Twain

If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India.
- French scholar Romain Rolland

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This post was edited by masterkung at 2015-7-12 11:10

Both India and China were a highly urban civilization by the 18th century, though of course the bulk of the population lived in rural areas.. China was much advanced in science and technology, with gunpowder, printing, paper and paper currency as its
inventions. China’s scientific and technological achievements are known to us thanks to the monumental efforts of Joseph Needham India was known for its mathematics and its philosophy. The Chinese gave the world the wheelbarrow and bureaucracy; India gave the world the zero, decimals and Buddhism. Both were major exporters of fine textiles, silks and muslins; their ships sailed around the world and indeed dominated the seas till 1500. After that the Chinese withdrew from the seas and while the Indians continued, the powers that be in Delhi or Agra had no need for a navy. It was the kingdoms in South India which were maritime adventurers. As they declined in power under the Mughals, Indian shipping began to be conducted increasingly on a private basis rather than a state sponsored one. The control of the seas passed to a series of Western European countries.

China and India offer important contrasts in politics and society, yet they resembled each other in that both built stable structures over large areas and used culture to justify social inequality. The restraint of Chinese art contrasted with the more dynamic style of India. The latter developed a primary religion, Hinduism, while the former opted for separate religious and philosophical systems. Chinese technological advancements stressed practicality, while Indians ventured into mathematics for its own sake. Indian merchants played a greater societal role than their Chinese counterparts. Both, however, relied on large peasant classes in agrarian settings; both accepted political power based on land ownership.

No classical civilization was more open to outside influences than India. None were more central to cross-cultural exchanges in the common era. Important innovations in mathematics and science came from classical India. Buddhism is one of the few truly world religions. Indian influence was especially important in Southeast Asia. Placed between the great empires and trading networks of the Mediterranean and of China, India was ideally situated for its culture to influence both East and West.

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Post time 2015-7-12 20:38:04 |Display all floors
Good info in this thread. India and China can be model neighbours and friends.
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