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IP Protection is a smokescreen , Sneaky US wants one thing ONLY, embarrasing    Close [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2019-2-3 09:38:40 |Display all floors
Baldie, every one in China knows US government accusation is full of BS, and highly political motivated and has NO credibility.

Why you keep bringing up US government indictment this and that as words of GOD???

Come on now!!

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Post time 2019-2-3 11:00:23 |Display all floors
wchao37 Post time: 2019-2-2 12:43
We are talking about top-of-the-line high-tech products that America is accusing companies like Hu ...

Oh, so you're trying to tell us that IP rights differ? What part of "Intellectual Property" and "Rights" do you not understand? Thereis only a difference in severity of the crime. IP theft is still theft, no matter how you look at it.
Stupid people are like Glowsticks. You want to snap them in half and shake the crap out of them until they see the light.
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Post time 2019-2-3 11:22:54 |Display all floors
wchao37 Post time: 2019-2-2 12:43
We are talking about top-of-the-line high-tech products that America is accusing companies like Hu ...

The WTO deals with trade disputes between governments. Disputes concerning business to business, or government to business (and vice-versa) are dealt with using the court systems, not the WTO.

For example, Lacoste and Crocodile ... two businesses using a crocodile logo on their clothing, settled a copyright infringement case in the courts, in Shanghai. The Canadian governments longstanding Softwood lumber disputes with the United States government gets settled by WTO tribunals.

When it comes to things like trade secrets and theft of technology, those get settled in the courts, not the WTO.
Stupid people are like Glowsticks. You want to snap them in half and shake the crap out of them until they see the light.
I love sarcasm. It's like punching someone in the head ... only with words

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Post time 2019-2-3 15:01:53 |Display all floors
Boston101 Post time: 2019-1-29 05:51
IP protection? China has been caught numerous times stealing foreign IP. It is the main blocking ite ...

When US steals, not only the world is not aware but still believes US guards and protects. Now, US knows its technology is being challenged beyond doubt. US must eliminate its opponents completely. Unfortunately, US could no longer beat its opponents. Embarrassment of US means others have to pay and cover up for US!

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Post time 2019-2-3 15:38:49 |Display all floors
cmknight Post time: 2019-2-3 11:22
The WTO deals with trade disputes between governments. Disputes concerning business to business, o ...

Again you are distorting the facts out of ignorance.

The charges against Huawei stemmed from civil law suit cases filed several years ago, and they are now used as weapons on the first day of the trade courts by sensationalizing the nature of the cases by converting them into the U.S. criminal court system, which does not have internationally-recognized authority to try such cases in the first place.  

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Post time 2019-2-3 15:45:04 |Display all floors
cmknight Post time: 2019-2-3 11:00
Oh, so you're trying to tell us that IP rights differ? What part of "Intellectual Property" and "R ...

In that case the U.S. owes China 1 trillion trillion trillion dollars in IP theft compensation money for all the paper, printing technology, firearms, mariner compasses used since the time they entered North America, since as you say IP rights do not differ according to time, place and enforceability, unless you regard your products as "intellectual property," while those of other countries "non-intellectual property."

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Post time 2019-2-3 16:02:15 |Display all floors
An email sent by HR at Huawei USA two days later about the program said “here in the USA we do not condone nor engage in such activities and such a behavior is expressly prohibited by [Huawei USA’s] company policies” but also said “in some foreign countries and regions such a directive and award program may be normal and within the usual course of business.”

In a statement, Huawei said that the trade secrets matter had been resolved as a result of a civil suit brought by T-Mobile in 2013. A Seattle jury found Huawei had breached its contract with T-Mobile and ordered it to pay $4.8 million in damages. Huawei declined to comment when asked by Quartz whether such a bonus program had existed


So by your own quotation Huawei had shown no intent to steal anything from anybody.  It says very clearly it doesn't condone such behavior.  It is their understanding that it might be normal practice in some foreign companies to do so, but not Huawei.

In a criminal law suit, intent is the most important ingredient.

It's like the smoking gun principle -- one can't be pronounced guilty of a murder just because he is holding a smoking gun over a dead body.  He might just be a passerby who heard the commotion, picked up the smoking gun and was wondering what had happened when the police arrived.  That scenario doesn't lead to the conviction of the accused because intent has not been shown.

By digging up a civil-court case that occurred almost 6 years ago that wasn't tried in the criminal court system back in 2013 and trying to convert it into a criminal case on the first day of the trade talks in Washington shows that the U.S. has no case because it has failed to establish a pattern of non-random, systematic behavior that establishes the intent to 'steal' anything, or else it would have been viewed as a case of criminal act a long time ago.

That is an attempt by Donald Trump to throw the scent of his criminal culpability off his own track and refocus it on Huawei is obvious, or else why would the 6-years-old civil case show up as a criminal case punctually on the first day of the trade talks?



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