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Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-10 11:24:17     Title: SHOWCASE OF DEMOCRACY IN ASIA - PHILIPPINES?

Imagine, Trump-on-Steroids, and you can see the Philippines' firebrand candidate now turned virtual President-Elect Duterte, blasting his detractors and critics with no holds barred.  And yes, he is winning in the plurality system that allows the candidate with the most votes to win, even if he did not receive the majority of the votes.  Admittedly, his lead of 38% as against that of his closest rival of 23% is so overwhelming that in a runoff election, he is likely to win anyway.

But look at Marcos, Jr's, opposite fate, leading his closest rival by some 11% points 3 weeks ago, reduced to a 1% lead just before the election, making him sound an alarm that the election is likely to be rigged to put in place a vice-president who will replace Duterte in due time.

Well, he might just as well throw in the towel.  The vote-counting machines never lie.  And if they did, you would not be able to prove it anyway.  Retirement is the wisest course for those who see the handwriting on the wall.  The impeachment of one of the Philippines' most popular elected President promises to bring economic, political and social chaos in its wake.  

This "showcase of democracy" seems to be showing the wrong lesson to the world.

If it can be rigged, it is most likely to be attempted.



Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-10 11:55:04

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Democracy is not possible in a capitalist nation.
The rich always rule capitalist nations. It can be no other way.
Elections are just for show. The officials are nothing more than figureheads.

Author: exportedkiwi    Time: 2016-5-10 12:18:25

This has nothing to do with capitalism. It has to do with corruption, pure and simple.
Author: bushier    Time: 2016-5-10 18:13:52

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-10 11:55
Democracy is not possible in a capitalist nation.
The rich always rule capitalist nations. It can be ...

You are right about Demobcrazy.    Elected representatives need money to get elected.  Once elected it will be payback time. Sounds a lot of hidden corruption going on, and they pay their main stream media journalists aka PRESSTITUTE, very much to keep quiet about it.  Every year the politicians lead by their President organise the elaborate newspaper people event to make the presstitute like some kind of very important people.
Author: Saul    Time: 2016-5-10 19:46:12

bushier Post time: 2016-5-10 18:13
You are right about Demobcrazy.    Elected representatives need money to get elected.  Once electe ...

Every govt has corruption.

Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-10 21:06:48

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Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-10 22:19:47

seneca Post time: 2016-5-10 05:06
Is "democracy" possible in a single-party, preferably conservatively communist nation with an army ...

It must be a terrible place to live... your imagination that is.
Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-11 06:50:10

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Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-11 06:50:27

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seneca Post time: 2016-5-10 21:06
Is "democracy" possible in a single-party, preferably conservatively communist nation with an army ...

What was the capital in slavery society? slaves. Who were the owners of the capital? slave owners. Who were the most powerful? slave owners.

What was the capital in feudal society? lands. Who were the owners of the capital? land owners. Who were the most powerful?  land owners.

What is the capital in capitalist society? banks, corps and their assets. Who are the owners? capitalists, Who are the most power? capitalists.

What is the capital in socialist society? banks, corps and their assets, Who are the owners ? people. Who control the capital? government. Who are the most powerful? Government.

Is there a way that people directly control capital? No,

Therefore, real democracy is simply impossible, unless the country is too wealthy to be greedy, or the size of the economy is not big enough (not enough super-rich) for capitalists to control government.
Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-11 12:29:44

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Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-11 12:37:03

seneca Post time: 2016-5-10 20:29
China is looking for its child, Democracy, born in 1919, but the child has been abducted and has p ...

Whatever you're trying to get across it was lost in the opium smoke spread across China by its first enemies from the west.
Beyond that, the west and those supported by the west have nothing more to offer than smoke and mirrors.
Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-11 12:37:53

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Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-11 20:52:46

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But here is a catch :

With state control, government takes away the business opportunities or the opportunities of getting more money or getting rich, which is the motivation for people to produce wealth.

Therefore 100% control by state inevitably leads to poverty, as no one want to "stand up" and work harder than others, the reason of failure in socialist countries during old time.

So it has to be a balance between privated own and state own. Now in China, government controls macro economy, private business are on micro economy, like McDonald.


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Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-11 21:13:46

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seneca Post time: 2016-5-11 20:55
Prove to us that the 700 yuan the banks make in profits really go to public investments.

Where does government get money for infrastructure, miltary, etc?

Where does government get money to pay for the interests of debt?

who are the owners of 3 trillion dollar debt foreign countries owe to China?




Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-11 21:16:51

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Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-11 21:18:40

seneca Post time: 2016-5-11 21:16
The owners certainly are not the common people, Dee:rie. If they were, they should be entitled to  ...

Well, in China, there are 1.36 billion owners, except they can't determine how to use the money.
Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-11 21:19:45

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Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-11 21:23:41

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seneca Post time: 2016-5-11 21:19
No, these 136 billion people are NOT "owners" of said money

Where does government get money for infrastructure, miltary, etc?

Where does government get money to pay for the interests of debt?

who are the owners of 3 trillion dollar debt foreign countries owe to China?

The state own banks make like 10% return each year, AFTER corruption, where does the money go? burned?
Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-12 20:00:14

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Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-13 07:06:43

seneca Post time: 2016-5-12 20:00
Where do CHINESE PEOPLE get bank loans to start a business, buy a home or a car???

The State is h ...

From the money people deposit in banks.

The difference is that in China, people are owners of the banks, therefore wealth generated from their deposit s must work for them; in West, the wealth generated from their deposit goes to the pockets of top 1%.

I was asking how the interest is used, not principle.
Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-13 07:08:57

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-12 23:42
And if they on eject to how their money is used ... What happens to them?
... Object

Oct, 2013, US government closed for a while due to disagreement on budget, I guess you know it.

End of 2014, US congress passed a bill of one trillion dollars. Do you know? Will you find out how the money is used?
Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-13 07:09:34

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-12 23:42
And if they on eject to how their money is used ... What happens to them?
... Object

End of 2014, US passed a budget of one trillion dollars, do you know?
Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-13 07:10:22

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-12 23:42
And if they on eject to how their money is used ... What happens to them?
... Object

End of 2014, US c0ngre33 p@$$ed a budget of one trillion dollars, do you know the bill?
Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-13 08:34:33

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-12 07:41
The British never sold opium across China.

He Chinese did that.

Are you ignorant of the Opium wars? I guess you must be.
Author: coralbay    Time: 2016-5-13 11:26:47

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Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-13 11:39:45

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-12 19:35
If you ink the British sold opium across China - and not the Chinese - you need to re-examine your ...

The British supplied China with opium they brought from India.
That's what the two opium wars were about.
Don't you know ANYTHING???
Author: coralbay    Time: 2016-5-13 12:22:50

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Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-13 12:25:28

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-12 20:22
To quote your exact words: " can't you even read?"

The British never sold opium across China. The ...

If you don't want to accept the truth I can understand why.
It's not easy knowing your homeland is made up of genocidal maniacs who push drugs.
Author: coralbay    Time: 2016-5-13 12:34:41

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Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-13 13:02:45

This post was edited by abramicus at 2016-5-13 13:11

METHINKS CORALBAY IS WAY OFF THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD . . .

IN THE MEANTIME, THIS SO-CALLED "SHOWCASE OF DEMOCRACY IN ASIA" HAS JUST BEGUN TO TAKE IN WATER FROM A GASH ON ITS TITANIC OF AN ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEM, VETTED AS ONE OF THE MOST EFFICIENT AND HONEST IN THE WORLD, UNTIL IT WAS PROVEN THAT BETWEEN THE FIRST TRANCHE OF VOTES REPORTED SHOWING MARCOS JUNIOR TO BE WINNING BY SOME 5.5%, AND THE SUBSEQUENT TRANCHES SHOWING HIM TO BE LOSING BY 16.3%, RELATIVE TO HIS CLOSEST RIVAL, ROBREDO, SOMEWHERE AROUND MIDNIGHT, A VENEZUELAN IT TECHNICIAN RECEIVED AN ORDER FROM ABOVE TO BREAK THE SEAL, SO TO SPEAK, OF THE DATA IN THE SERVER, ALLEGEDLY TO CHANGE A SINGLE LETTER MISSPELLED IN A CANDIDATE'S NAME, MAKING THE VERACITY OF THE REST OF THE DATA VIRTUALLY UNVERIFIABLE.

AS POSTED IN A SEPARATE THREAD, THE FOLLOWING TABLE SHOWED TWO MAJOR STATISTICAL ANOMALIES IN THE VOTES COUNTED.

  

TRANCHE COUNTED

  

MARCOS



M% TOTAL



ROBREDO



R% TOTAL



TOTAL VOTES



A



6,536,505



52.767%



5,850,998



47.233%



12,387,503



B



4,464,488



50.470%



4,381,346



49.530%



8,845,835



C



862,359



41.836%



1,198,934



58.164%



2,061,292



D



1,712,884



41.878%



2,377,256



58.122%



4,090,140




  

TOTAL




  

13,576,236




  

49.576%




  

13,808,534




  

50.424%




  

27,384,770




  























THE FIRST IS THE IMPOSSIBLE FEAT OF THE PERCENTAGE OF VOTES RECEIVED BY MARCOS JUNIOR AND BY ROBREDO, BEING EXACTLY 41.8% FOR MARCOS JUNIOR AND 58.1% FOR ROBREDO, ON THE THIRD TRANCHE OF VOTING DATA RELEASED, AND AGAIN, WITH THE SAME EXACT PERCENTAGES ON THE FOURTH TRANCHE OF VOTING DATA RELEASED.  IT HAD TO BE AN ACT OF GOD, OR OTHERWISE, OF THE DEVIL.

THE SECOND IS THE STATISTICAL EVIDENCE THAT THE FIRST TRANCHE OF VOTERS AND THE THIRD AND FOURTH TRANCHES OF VOTERS BELONG TO DIFFERENT POPULATIONS (PRESUMABLY ONE IS REAL, AND THE OTHER, UNREAL), BECAUSE THE PROPORTION OF VOTES GOTTEN BY MARCOS JR OF 52.7% IN THE FIRST TRANCHE, AND ONLY 41.8% IN THE THIRD AND FOURTH TRANCHES, HAVE A PROBABILITY OF LESS THAN 0.001 OF BELONGING TO THE SAME ELECTORATE.  NOW, HOW ON EARTH CAN A GENERAL ELECTION HAVE TWO ELECTORATES?  ONE REAL, AND THE OTHER, IMAGINARY?






Author: Ted180    Time: 2016-5-14 05:18:45

My reading in many western sources has made the corruption of the Philippines clear for many years. Why such surprise?
Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-14 09:45:05

coralbay Post time: 2016-5-13 11:26
Geez ... I ask a question about China and you answer "In the USA ... "

Completely irrelevant!

It is relevant because there is no solution.

The reason that there is no solution is because there is no way people can control economy and people depend on either government or media to get information,
Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-14 10:30:59

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Author: robert237    Time: 2016-5-14 10:52:07

seneca Post time: 2016-5-13 18:30
And Chinese Triads eagerly snapped up the loot and distributed it across China. It is known that t ...

Still trying to deny the guilt of the British in the Opium wars are you.
Author: seneca    Time: 2016-5-14 11:01:31

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Author: exportedkiwi    Time: 2016-5-14 12:13:14

ztoa789 Post time: 2016-5-11 21:23
Where does government get money for infrastructure, miltary, etc?

Where does government get money  ...

To answer the first 2; taxes, ostensibly.

The third; the people of China whose purse the gov't holds onto and manages, ostensibly, on their behalf.

The fourth; profits from corporations go to the shareholders, and in the case of banks, to the people ostensibly with the money managed by the gov't.

So expenses should come from the people and profits should go to the people. That's the way it's supposed to work but in China and most countries, I doubt it very much indeed.
Author: exportedkiwi    Time: 2016-5-14 12:16:03

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coralbay Post time: 2016-5-13 12:22
To quote your exact words: " can't you even read?"

The British never sold opium across China. The ...

Quite true, the Poms never sold opium across China. It was traded, by the EIC, for tea amongst other things and those Chinese traders who took opium in exchange then sold it across China.

A terrible trade it was too.
Author: ztoa789    Time: 2016-5-14 22:53:26

exportedkiwi Post time: 2016-5-14 12:13
To answer the first 2; taxes, ostensibly.

The third; the people of China whose purse the gov't ho ...

I said the money AFTER corruption.

Think of this : if SOE are privatized, how many of the employees would be let go?

Also, government controls money flow, which is strategically important in making overall planning.
Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-18 11:47:10

China, for all its recent assertiveness, has not done 1% to others what others have done to her.  In the prism of history, China is merely regaining the fire and brilliance she once showed, before her century-long humiliation took place, starting with the Opium Wars and ending with the Japanese invasion of China.  But, Deng is right.  There is no need to be Big Brother.  Just be yourself.


Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-20 08:31:08

This post was edited by abramicus at 2016-5-20 09:35

FINALLY, MARCOS JR MAY YET ACHIEVE WHAT NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE - DEMAND AND ESTABLISH A FAIR AND HONEST ELECTORAL SYSTEM FOR ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS - LET ALL ELECTION CHEATING END WITH 2016.

AFTER A SPATE OF TROLLING BY SOME FORUMITES TRYING TO DISTRACT READERS FROM THE DEBACLE OF DIGITIZED VOTE COUNT MACHINATIONS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEMOCRACY ON STEROIDS, WE HAVE REACHED A HIATUS WHERE THE TROLLS HAVE STOPPED POSTING, KNOWING THAT ANYONE TRYING TO FOLLOW THIS THREAD WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO.

THE TRAGEDY THAT BEFELL THE PHILIPPINES IS THAT ITS WELL-MEANING PEOPLE WANTED TO GIVE ELECTORAL DEMOCRACY ITS BEST CHANCE OF PROVING ITSELF WORTHY OF THEIR TRUST.  THEY PRIDE THEMSELVES IN HAVING SHRUGGED OFF THE PAST, AND ARE READY TO EMBRACE SELF-RULE IN ITS TOTALITY AND FINALITY.

ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT TRUE DEMOCRACY REMAINS EVER MORE ELUSIVE THAN BEFORE.

WHERE PAPER BALLOTS CAN BE STOLEN, ALTERED, OR MISCOUNTED, DIGITAL BALLOTS CAN BE COMPLETELY VANISHED, FAKED, AND DISCOUNTED WHOLESALE, IN A FLASH.  THE STATISTICAL ANOMALY OF THE VICE-PRESIDENTIAL VOTE COUNT, WITH MARCOS WINNING BY A MILLION VOTES AFTER 70% OF THE VOTES HAD BEEN COUNTED, WITH A MARGIN OF MORE THAN 10% OVER HIS CLOSES RIVAL, TO A LOSS BY 200,000 VOTES, FOLLOWING A CONSTANT RATIO OF 42:58 OF MARCOS:ROBREDO OVER THE NEXT 2 MILLION VOTES, WHICH RATIO (TO A PRECISION OF 0.1%) WAS REPLICATED IN ANOTHER 4 MILLION VOTES, IS A MIRACLE THAT ONLY THE PIOUS CAN PRAY FOR AND GET, UNDER PASTORAL OVERSIGHT.

THE DEAFENING SILENCE OF THE FREE PRESS IN THE WEST ABOUT SUCH AN EGREGIOUS VIOLATION OF THE PRINCIPLES OF DEMOCRACY MERELY CONFIRMS WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW BY NOW.  THE FILIPINOS CANNOT COUNT ON FOREIGN POWERS TO INITIATE, GUIDE, MAINTAIN OR DEFEND THEIR INDIVIDUAL OR COLLECTIVE RIGHTS.  ONLY THE FILIPINO PEOPLE CAN AND SHOULD DEFEND THEIR RIGHT TO SUFFRAGE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE WESTERN MEDIA FROWNS OR SMILES ON THEIR ATTEMPTS TO DO SO.  IN THE CASE OF THE VICE-PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT MAY THE THE LAST CHANCE FOR TRUE DEMOCRACY TO FINALLY GERMINATE IN THE PHILIPPINES - THE KEY STEP BEING TO DISMANTLE AND DISCARD THEIR FAULTY ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES AND SERVERS, AND GOING BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS, PROPERLY PROTECTED AND MONITORED.
Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-23 13:12:59

This post was edited by abramicus at 2016-5-23 13:19

THE FILIPINO CHARACTER SHINES IN THE WILLINGNESS OF ROBREDO TO SUPPORT A FULL AUDIT - THUMBS UP!

To the credit of VP candidate Leni Robredo, she appeared to have lent support to the demand by the Marcos Jr camp for the election commission to allow a full, transparent audit of the entire electronic voting system, and thus, the Philippine electoral system can vindicate itself completely, if the audit showed the true winner to be Robredo, or, more likely, save the institution of democratic elections in the Philippines if the audit proved Marcos Jr to be the winner.  The latter outcome would invalidate the electronic system and restore the paper ballot as the best way to determine the majority will.  It may be clumsy and burdensome, but if it gurantees a clean election, then it will have to stay.

A stable Philippines is an independent Philippines.  And an independent Philippines will always act in the best interest of its people, which is to secure its rights peacefully and rationally.  This is something that everyone should welcome.






Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-26 13:00:09

FOR MARCOS JR, IN THE END, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TRUST, AFTER ALL.

With the manual canvassing of the ballots in full swing, it appears that some closure to the allegations of fraud will take place soon.  The Marcos Jr camp seems ambivalent about what is the true result of the recent election.  It should not take much to convince him that he had "in fact" lost, since he puts all his trust in the ballots taken out of the boxes sent to the capital for counting.  How would he know if these are the actual ballots cast or their replacement "by other means", perhaps again for mere "cosmetic reasons"?  In the end, has he not been forced to accept the result of the election on the basis of his trust of others?  But, that is just as well, because if he does not know how to defend his own rights, how can he defend the rights of his countrymen against the greed and wiles of both foreign and domestic exploiters?
Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-27 13:36:01

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THE REAL KAHUNA OF ELECTION ANOMALIES BEGINS TO SURFACE . . .

7.3% "UNDERVOTES" OUT OF 41,000,000 VOTES CAST, COMPARED TO HISTORICAL NORM OF 1-2% "UNDERVOTES", IS BEYOND THE POSSIBILITY OF RANDOM VARIATION DUE TO CHANCE.

IT CALLS INTO QUESTION THE VERACITY, COMPLETENESS, AND VALIDITY OF THE PAPER VOTES.

THE SCRIPT CHANGE TO THE TRANSPARENCY SERVER IS SMALL CHANGE COMPARED TO THIS ANOMALY.




Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-27 13:41:57

ALL THE BALLOT BOXES MAY NEED TO BE OPENED TO FIND OUT IF THE MISSING, UNCOUNTED BALLOTS, ARE STASHED IN OTHER BOXES "BY MISTAKE".


Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:52:20

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-10 11:55
Democracy is not possible in a capitalist nation.
The rich always rule capitalist nations. It can be ...

Yes it is
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:52:49

Saul Post time: 2016-5-10 19:46
Every govt has corruption.

Agree
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:54:17

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-10 22:19
It must be a terrible place to live... your imagination that is.

Bobbie boy land.  must be a very nice place for you
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:55:38

ztoa789 Post time: 2016-5-11 21:18
Well, in China, there are 1.36 billion owners, except they can't determine how to use the money.

They don't own land?
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:57:04

ztoa789 Post time: 2016-5-13 07:09
End of 2014, US passed a budget of one trillion dollars, do you know?

Cheap it should of been more
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:58:23

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-13 08:34
Are you ignorant of the Opium wars? I guess you must be.

Have a reference, oh sorry look who I'm talking too
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:58:56

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-13 11:39
The British supplied China with opium they brought from India.
That's what the two opium wars were ...

Have a reference for this
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 03:59:50

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-13 12:25
If you don't want to accept the truth I can understand why.
It's not easy knowing your homeland is ...

You and the truth that's funny
Author: dusty1    Time: 2016-5-28 04:00:37

robert237 Post time: 2016-5-14 10:52
Still trying to deny the guilt of the British in the Opium wars are you.

Your funny
Author: cestmoi    Time: 2016-5-28 05:43:30

Democracy in S.E.Asia also created some of the most corrupt governments, the Philippines lead the pack.

They all took a leaf right out of the seminal work and definitive compendium on corruption compiled by the Generalismo and his coterie of Generalisimeees.

And human rights in these democracies are as bad as anywhere.

Friends and allies of USA, all of them.
Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-28 11:33:36

This post was edited by abramicus at 2016-5-28 11:34

HERE IS A SIMPLE LESSON IN LOGIC:  

IF THE UNOFFICIAL TALLY WAS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS OF BEING UNTRUE DUE TO STATISTICAL ANOMALIES, AND THE FINAL OFFICIAL TALLY ENDED UP BEING IDENTICAL TO THE UNOFFICIAL TALLY, WHAT IS YOUR LOGICAL CONCLUSION?

A.  THE OFFICIAL TALLY IS RIGHT, AND THEREFORE, THE UNOFFICIAL TALLY IS ALSO RIGHT, AND THE MISTAKE IS IN THE OBSERVATION OF A STATISTICAL ANOMALY - IT CANNOT EXIST AND THEREFORE MUST BE IGNORED.

B.  THE OFFICIAL TALLY IS ALSO QUESTIONABLE, SINCE IT REFLECTED A STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE RESULT THAT WAS MANIFESTED BY THE UNOFFICIAL TALLY.  A DIFFERENT MECHANISM OF ERRONEOUS COUNTING IN THE OFFICIAL TALLY MUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, DISTINCT BUT PARALLEL TO THE ELECTRONIC ANOMALIES OF THE UNOFFICIAL COUNT.  SINCE THERE IS NO "ELECTION PROTEST" FILED BY THE MARCOS JR TEAM, THIS ANOMALY IN THE OFFICIAL COUNT COULD NEVER BE KNOWN OR VERIFIED.

C.  MARCOS JR., AND IF NOT HE HIMSELF, THEN SOMEONE IN HIS CAMP, HAS ALREADY GIVEN UP ON HIS QUEST FOR VICE-PRESIDENCY, AND HAS DECIDED NOT TO PROTEST THE RESULT, EXCEPT AS A FACE-SAVING TOKEN GESTURE AFTER THE VICE-PRESIDENT HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED.

THE LAST OPTION MAY BE THE MOST REALISTIC ANSWER.  NOT ALL CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS WANT OR ARE MADE TO BE POLITICIANS.  MARCOS JR WILL NO LONGER BE A SENATOR COME JULY 1, 2016, EITHER.  MAYBE, THAT IS THE BEST COURSE FOR HIS FAMILY, TO TURN TOWARD EDUCATION, PHILANTHROPY, AND BUSINESS, AND WORK THROUGH NGO'S TO LEAVE A LASTING LEGACY FROM HIS FAMILY TO HIS COUNTRY.
Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-29 06:36:32

TO PROTEST OR NOT TO PROTEST - NOW IS THE QUESTION.

Deciding not to win, even if one were cheated, is a valid decision for any candidate.  The fundamental question is not whether one deserved to win, but why one would be swindled out of it.  If one believes in destiny, the fact justifies itself - it must have happened for a reason. If one believes destiny is a mind trick, a result of the tendency of the human mind to rationalize everything, like the economists do every day, to explain what had happened a few hours or days ago, then he would fight with every means, for every second, at every turn, because in so doing can he best prove that his destiny is after all what he willed it to be.

This, of course, is not what Marcos Jr. is doing.  His father would have scolded him for being afraid of failing when there is still a reasonable chance of success.  How many battles are won on the courage of the few to take the poorer odds with conviction, if not with glee?

There is no fight here though, only a fear of more failures, of more pain, of more humiliation.  In the end, he surrendered.  And since he did, one could then call it destiny.


Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-30 01:24:17

This post was edited by abramicus at 2016-5-30 01:33

WHO IS THE BRAIN IN THE MARCOS JR CAMP, OR IS THERE ONE?

Someone close to Marcos Jr is most likely advising him to file a protest only AFTER the official announcement of the Philippine Congress of the official winners.  There is an air of presumed subtlety and legal brilliance in this inactivity.  Just like the canvassing that went against Marcos, the post-canvas situation of would simply make it impossible for him to make a case that he did not protest against when he had every chance to do so.  Things are not so subtle, however.  Just so stupid.  

Oh well, destiny.



Author: abramicus    Time: 2016-5-31 10:52:22

THE MARCOS ERA IS ENDED - THE DUTERTE DISPENSATION HAS ARRIVED.

FINALLY, THE FILIPINO PEOPLE ARE GETTING MATURE ENOUGH TO DEMAND AN AUDIT OF BOTH THE MANUAL AND THE ELECTRONIC VOTE COUNT, EVEN WITHOUT MARCOS JR'S PROTEST, WHICH IT SEEMS WILL COME ONLY AFTER THE WORK IS DONE FOR HIM BY THE PEOPLE, ELSE WILL NEVER COME AT ALL.

THE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT TO DISTRUST ALL POLITICIANS, JUST AS PRESIDENT-ELECT DUTERTE DEMONSTRATED WITH HIS ACTION OF NOT ATTENDING THE CONGRESSIONAL PROCLAMATION OF HIS WINNING THE PRESIDENCY.

THE MARCOS ERA IS OVER WITH THE ACQUIESCENCE OF MARCOS JR TO HIS OWN VICTIMIZATION, PERHAPS AS A QUID PRO QUO WITH HIS VICTIMIZERS, WHO HAVE THREATENED TO PROSECUTE HIM FOR ECONOMIC PLUNDER, ETC.

THANKFULLY, DUTERTE ARRIVED JUST IN TIME, BUT JUST LIKE JULIUS CAESAR, HE MUST BEWARE HIS OWN BEST FRIEND, BRUTUS, ESPECIALLY IF HE ATTENDS ANY GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION AT HIS INVITATION.






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