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Post time 2015-7-12 00:15:27 |Display all floors
A German official said that he is wondering whether Tsipras is tricking his own people or tricking the German people by reversing his stance from being anti-austerity to being pro-austerity.  But since Germany apparently had no hand in causing Tsipras' change of stance, he could not have been doing it to trick the Greek people.  Therefore, he must be doing it to trick the German people into lending him another 60 billion dollars, in exchange for fulfilling Greece's prior obligations to pay back on its past loans, i.e., sending good money after bad money, that only enlarges the debt of Greece to Germany, in return for which Germany gets another slate of promises to pay, including promises to slash pensions, tax workers, and increase the sales taxes on every one.  This logic fails to consider that Tsipras may be doing it for a third party, not for Greece, nor for Germany, and in this sense, not tricking Greece may not mean he is tricking Germany.  But if so, Germany's rejoinder would be, why should Germany be paying for it?



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This post was edited by abramicus at 2015-7-12 00:30

If other parties are somehow connected to the Greece question, the field widens tremendously, to third parties trying to use the Greece-German standoff to not necessarily undermine either country, but to put fourth or fifth parties out of balance, in getting lured into taking a financial or political position either of which can be disastrous for them, similar to tying a financial or political millstone around their necks and dragging them down with Greece or Germany.

Caveat emptor.

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All Greece really has to do is take back all the money stolen by its rich parasites.

60 billion USD?

The could easily come up with 73 billion USD by taking back the money stolen by its 20 richest.

I'm sure they could be left a million or two so they wouldn't starve to death.

After all... did any of these billionaires work 20,000 times harder or longer than the average person
for each of those billions?
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robert237 Post time: 2015-7-12 00:52
All Greece really has to do is take back all the money stolen by its rich parasites.

60 billion USD ...

Sometimes but very seldom you make sense

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robert237 Post time: 2015-7-12 00:52
All Greece really has to do is take back all the money stolen by its rich parasites.

60 billion USD ...

Well said.  The EU should follow the German prescription of letting Greece leave the Euro zone first, so the cycle of debt and austerity can be broken.  Then, Greece has to boot out its dishonest politicians, like the ones they have right now on both sides of the aisle, who want to suck up the next tranche of loans from the EU, and leave their countrymen even deeper in debt, which everyone knows CANNOT EVER BE PAID REGARDLESS.

No amount of austerity, cutting of spending, raising of taxes, can bring back the 350 billion euros already sucked by the parasites in the guts of the Greek country.

The parasites are using their host as cover to borrow more money that they can suck up and stash away.

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This post was edited by robert237 at 2015-7-12 11:51
abramicus Post time: 2015-7-12 10:25
Well said.  The EU should follow the German prescription of letting Greece leave the Euro zone fir ...

Bankruptcy seems to be the only real solution. Leaving the EU to accomplish this is no big sacrifice.
They could join a more modern, reasonable, and ascending alliance, BRICS.
The new name could be BRIGSC
Pronounced "Brigs-C"
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