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Post time 2014-9-16 09:26:43 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2014-9-13 15:08
You come closest to the biographical facts pertaining to Seneca - except that I do not hate, lea ...

All us old veterans knew all that.... but thanks for confirming it for the benefit of the newcomers.

Such a pity you sojourn in the kibbutz didn't endow you with any enlightenment regarding your politics. But I have good reason to believe that you were a plant...... trying to bring chaos there, as you do here.

Can the leopard change its spots?
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Post time 2014-9-16 09:34:23 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2014-9-11 23:04
Sorry, you just gave The Hernia a keyword to laud the Nazis: he of all posters thinks that the Naz ...

They were National Socialists in the mould of the ancient state of Sparta. Unfortunately they copied the bad aspects of that state as well as the good.
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Post time 2014-9-16 09:42:28 |Display all floors
TheHermit Post time: 2014-9-16 11:18
I have always been suspicious of the arguments he has with JFenix... because IMHO they are two of  ...

It is a lot like the way two major political parties divide up the issues among themselves so that the voter is left feeling confused or helpless in the USA, UK, Australia, Canada etc. - if you want to vote for someone you think is financially conservative (never mind that it is not really true), you will have to vote for someone who is openly racist, will not support women's right to abortion and against government involvement in helping keep medical costs low. If you vote for someone who claims to champion workers rights (never mind that it too is not really true) and a woman's right to choose, you will be led to believe you are voting for someone who will tax the businesses to death...Occasionally, both sides try and outdo each other on being tough on immigration and immigrants!
That way, you will always have the illusion of voting for a change and getting back to what you voted out, again for a change. Since a third viable alternative is always kept well out of reach, we will always get a mixed bag. There is no theoretical reason why one cannot have a party representing the best of what most people support.
This is the type of staged arguments or disagreements people on the same side put out. They will sometimes take personal potshots to lend more flavour or credibility. The key is to simply note their position on the most basic and important values and issues, and who they both really villify, while still appearing to disagree - The Arabs or muslims or other victims of colonisation. This is very common in western media - the have this imaginary line going from left to right and  when an extreme right winger mildly disagrees with  a right winger - it is presented as a choice between 'The 'Left' and 'The Right'.. No wonder, when someone questions this, the question is labelled 'extreme beyond the fringe' and promptly cut-off.
Have you noticed, often that many posters here really do not care if their reasoning was not convincing or if they 'lost' the rational argument? They will leave trail markers for others, characterising their opponents, as if summarizing the debate. What frustrates Seneca and others now, is that there are others who do the same to them!! And they already have a reputation! Suddenly, there is great whinging and whining...
The wise ones withdraw quickly and duck for cover till the storm passes. Seneca however likes ANY kind of attentions and revels in it!

Propaganda preys on the vulnerable, ill-informed, emotional and inattentive, but also there needs to be some perspective. Giving too much attention to those plainly engaging in trolling, is not good either.
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KIyer Post time: 2014-9-16 09:42
It is a lot like the way two major political parties divide up the issues among themselves so that ...

Politicians always fight for the centre of the political spectrum..... their policies are indistinct and issues fudged. One has to move to the extremes to see any radicalism. And while there one finds that the extreme left, even though almost totally separated from the centre, their policies converge on the fundamental issues. It is a strange world... I must say.

The aim of most politicians, aided by the media, is to induce a Pavlovian response in the population, so that issues may be ignored and support be granted on the colour of the party, Blue or Red etc, regardless of policy.
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This post was edited by MisterZhu at 2014-9-16 11:57
seneca Post time: 2014-9-16 11:33
What the West-haters hate the most is the unrivalled socioeconomic success story of the West tha ...


Joseph Goebbels of China Daily forum,
Your lopsided history book is missing many pages on English, Portugeuse, Spanish, French, German, Dutch and US colonialism, slave trading, mass genocides of native inhabitants, and wholesale theft of half the worlds oceans and landmass.

Generous treatment of captured enemy troops.
Death to those that choose to fight.

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