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What the Irish and Scots don't want you to know

The Irish, Picts and Scots are a Scythian people originally from Central Asia in what is now modern day Russia.

Though they like to portray themselves as European and Celtic, they are infact an Asiatic Scythian people who have only been fraudulently calling themselves Celts since the year 1706 AD when they got a hold of a translation of a book written by the Frenchman Abb� Pezron's 揂ntiquit� de la Nation et de la Langue des Celtes� which discussed more particularly the Celts, otherwise known as Gauls in Latin, of France and continental Europe.

The Irish, Picts and Scots, like the Serbs and Russians, are a Slavic-Scythian people and to the detriment of genuine Celtic European people, have been trying to pass themselves off as Celts from the 18th century onwards in order to justify their presence in Western Europe and to hide their true Slavic origins.

It抯 a truism that not one single ancient historian has ever labelled either the Scots, Picts or Irish as ever being a Celtic people but always a Scythian people. Here are a just few examples:

搕he nation of the Picts, from Scythia, as is reported, putting to sea, in a few long ships, were driven by the winds towards the shores of Britain� Bede, Ecclesiastical History of the English People, Book I, Chapter I (8th century AD)

揥hereupon they [Britons] suffered many years under two very savage foreign nations, the Scots from the west, and the Picts from the north�
Bede, Ecclesiastical History of the English People, Book I, Chapter XII (8th century AD)

搕he Picts came south from Scythia, with long ships, not many; and landing first in the northern part of Ireland� Anglo-Saxon Chronicles

揂nd the Picts obtained wives of the Scots, on condition that they chose their kings always on the female side; which they have continued to do, so long since. And it happened, in the run of years, that some party of Scots went from Ireland into Britain, and acquired some portion of this land.� Anglo-Saxon Chronicles

搮Pursuing fell the Scottish clans; the men of the fleet in numbers fell; 'midst the din of the field the warrior swate. Since the sun was up in morning-tide, gigantic light! glad over grounds, God's candle bright, eternal Lord! -- 'till the noble creature sat in the western main: there lay many of the Northern heroes under a shower of arrows, shot over shields; and Scotland's boast, a Scythian race� Anglo-Saxon Chronicles

揑t was the invariable habit of the race, as it is also now, to be weak in repelling the missiles of enemies, though strong to bear civil strifes and the burdens of sins; weak, I say, to follow ensigns of peace and truth, yet strong for crimes and falsehood. The shameless Irish assassins, therefore, went back to their homes, to return again before long. It was then, for the first time, in the furthermost part of the island, that the Picts commenced their successive settlements, with frequent pillaging and devastation.� Gildas, The Ruin of Britain. 21 (6th century AD)

揟hird devastation by Picts and Scots. As they were returning home, the terrible hordes of Scots and Picts eagerly come forth out of the tiny craft in which they sailed across the sea-valley, as on Ocean's deep, just as, when the sun is high and the heat increasing, dark swarms of worms emerge from the narrow crevices of their holes. Differing partly in their habits, yet alike in one and the same thirst for bloodshed ----in a preference also for covering their villainous faces with hair rather than their nakedness of body with decent clothing----these nations, on learning the departure of our helpers and their refusal to return, became more audacious than ever, and seized the whole northern part of the land as far as the wall, to the exclusion of the inhabitants.� Gildas, The Ruin of Britain. 19 (6th century AD)

According to 揟he Descent of the Gaels� by James Grant, and Edinburgh Advocate, and published in 1814 AD, the early Scots were known as Scyths. That, according to Grant, was the confirmed opinion of such old Roman writers as Radulphus, Claudian, Isidore and others. This portion of the Scythian hordes is supposed to have come to Britain from Scythia via Scandinavia.

In fact, the Irish in their own historical records clearly mention their true Scythian origins. One such example is the History of Keating (1570-1646 AD), a text based on legends transmitted verbally by Irish sages. Keating mentions three of the early ancestors of the Irish and Scottish peoples whereby one of them is 揊ennius Farsa the Scythian�. In the Annals of Clonmacnoise, a king by the name of Neal is also described as a Scythian.

Further proof can be found in the Scottish Declaration of Arbroath - the document asserting the independence of Scotland, following Robert I the Bruce's victory over the English at Bannockburn (1314 AD), which was composed by the Scottish Parliament and sent to the Pope at Avignon, France, clearly states how the Scots arrived from Scythia.

揗ost Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia厰 The Declaration of Arbroath

For the last two hundred years the Irish and Scots have been copying the customs of real Celtic peoples by adopting similar dance, music and clothing, then rebadging it as something original and unique to Ireland or Scotland where in fact these same customs are very much prevalent all over the European continent from Portugal, Belgium and France to Switzerland, Italy and Austria.

In essence, the Irish and Scots are a parasitical people who are trying to steal not only the identity of real Celtic people but the wonderful history and culture that belongs to all genuine Celtic peoples of Western Europe. Such an example is the use of bagpipes, a musical instrument used throughout continental Europe. This instrument is still used in many genuine Celtic nations like Portugal, Galicia, Spain and France in its proper form and not in the corrupt and uncultured manner it is currently being mismanaged by the Scythian Scots.

The so-called Scottish kilt is made of material patterns common all over Celtic Europe - Belgium, Galicia, Portugal, Spain and France but the kilt has its origins in the 1730抯 when the Lancastrian industrialist Thomas Rawlinson clothed his Scottish workers, who at the time still wore rags for clothing, in an open cut garment instead of trousers in order to save money as the cut of a pair of trousers costs more than the cut of a simple one size fits all kilt. The textile and pattern, which the Scots claim as some sort of proof of their Celtic ancestry was infact imported from the continent in the 18th century and had nothing to do with any Scottish ancestry or clan membership whatsoever.

Even though their own historical records state they抮e of Scythian Asiatic ancestry and not Celtic, they for some reason choose to ignore their Asiatic origins. The genuine Celts, otherwise known as Gallic in Latin, are those people from the nations of France (Ancient Gaul), Portugal (Gallic Port, known in ancient times as Celtica), Galicia (Land of the Gauls), Belgium (Belgae Gaul), Spain (Celtiberia), Northern Italy (Cisalpine Gaul), Switzerland and Austria (Transalpine Gaul).

Yet today, both the Scot and the Irish travels abroad fraudulently portraying himself as European and Celtic when in truth they are Scythian and Asiatic.

But what抯 so shameful about the Scythian ancestry of the Scot and Irish that warrants them stealing the identity and history of genuine Celtic Europeans? It turns out they抮e trying to hide a historical blemish which they don抰 want other peoples to know about. This blemish is the fact that one of their Scythian kings inter-married with Africans before they arrived in Britain and Ireland.

We know from Nennius� historical writings (Historiam Britonum) that with respects to Ireland, "first came Partholomus with a thousand persons, all of whom died in one week of a plague. Then came Nimeth to Ireland, a son of Agnomen, and afterwards came three sons of a soldier of Iberia [modern day Georgia and Armenia in Asia].� Partholomus and Nimeth are the Partholan and Nemed of many Irish texts.

2006-10-11 12:57 PM

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continuation:

Nennius wrote that during the time of the Exodus there lived a "nobleman of Scythia among the Egyptians" who was expelled from Egypt and wandered for forty-two years in Africa before sailing to Iberia (modern day Georgia and Armenia in Asia).  His progeny afterwards arrived in Ireland 1002 years after the Red Sea Exodus episode.

However, this same Scythian nobleman, Nel (from where the modern day Irish and Scottish names Neal, O扤eal, Neil and O扤eil comes from), while in Egypt during the Red Sea Exodus Episode married an Egyptian princess by the name of Scota, from which the modern day Scots derive their name. Nennius goes on to describe a final invasion of Ireland which occurs after the invasion of the sons of King Milesius a soldier of Iberia (modern day Georgia and Armenia in Asia).

According to Nennius� Historiam Britonum, these were the last of all to arrive in Ireland and whose descendants remain there to this day.

The partial African-Egyptian roots of the modern Scottish and Irish people and their presence in Africa is also confirmed in the famous Irish Book of Leinster otherwise known as The Lebor Gabala Erren.

揘ell, son of Feinius Farsaid, went into Egypt through valour till he reached powerful Pharao; till he bestowed Scota, of no scanty beauty, the modest, nimble daughter of Pharao.� Irish Book of Leinster. 25

揘ow that is the time when Gaedel Glas, was born, of Scota daughter of Pharao.  From her are the Scots named.� Irish Book of Leinster. 14

揝cota bore a son to noble Nel, from whom was born a perfect great race: Gaedel Glas was the name of the man� Irish Book of Leinster. 25

揘ow Sru, son of Esru son Gaedel, he it is who was chieftain for the Gaedil who went out of Egypt after Pharao was drowned. Seven hundred and seventy years from the Flood till then.� Book of Leinster. 16

揊or that reason was the seed of Gaedil driven forth upon the sea, to wit Agnomain and Lamfhind his son, so that they were seven years on the sea, skirting the world on the north side.� Book of Leinster. 19

Nennius� Historiam Britonum together with the Irish Book of Leinster not only clearly confirms the Scythian origins of the modern day Scottish and Irish people but it also reminds them of their partial African-Egyptian ancestry through one of the Pharao抯 daughters named Scota � from which the modern Scots derive their name.

Further more, the Scythian presence in Asia was also recorded by the greatest of historians himself � Herodotus, where he writes:

揟he dominion of the Scythians over Asia lasted eight and twenty years during which time their insolence and oppression spread ruin on every side.�       Herodotus, Histories, Book 1.106 (5th century BC)

Interesting how Herodotus� description of the Scythian spread of ruin in 5th century BC mirrors Gildas� description of the similar devastation and ruin of Britain by the Irish, Pict and Scottish Scythians more than a thousand years later.

The shameful history of the Scythian didn抰 go unnoticed in ancient times where the historian Josephus wrote 揘ow as to the Scythians, they take a pleasure in killing men, and differ but little from brute beasts.� Josephus: Against Apion 2.38

So many Scythians originate from Asia that a large city is even recorded after them    揝o they came over Jordan, and arrived at the great plain, over against which is situate the city Bethshah, which is called by the Greeks Scythopolis.� Josephus: Antiguities12.8.5

The reason why Bethshah was called Scythopolis is well known from such historians as Herodotus and Syncellus, where they record that the Scythians, when they overran Asia, in the days of Josiah, seized this city, and kept it, from which time it retained the name of Scythopolis, or the City of the Scythians.

The fact that the Irish, Picts and Scots are a Scythian people whose ancestors can be traced to Egyptian-Africans is undeniable.

Their quest to portray themselves as Celts and Europeans is just a fraudulent attempt to steal the identity of the real Celtic Europeans in order to hide from sight their not so popular but true Scythian Afro-Asiatic origins.

2006-10-11 12:59 PM

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Irish and Scots are Africans!

QUOTE:

Originally posted by europa at 2006-10-11 07:59
continuation:

Their quest to portray themselves as Celts and Europeans is just a fraudulent attempt to steal the identity of the real Celtic Europeans in order to hide from sight their not so popular but true Scythian Afro-Asiatic origins.

I hope this doesn't come as too much of a shock old fruit but we're all Africans; you, me and everyone on the planet is descended from the original humans who came out of the Rift Valley a million or so years ago.

We would do well to recognise that there is only one race on this planet; the human race.

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2006-10-12 01:51 AM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by weiminfuwu at 2006-10-12 01:51

I hope this doesn't come as too much of a shock old fruit but we're all Africans; you, me and everyone on the planet is descended from the original humans who came out of the Rift Valley a mi ...

Speak for yourself, I'm certainly not African but feel free to pass that inforamtion of yourself on to your descendents.

2006-10-12 08:25 AM

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The truth be known...

The Irish and Scotts decended from monkeys like the rest of us.

African monkeys were black...
Chinese monkeys were yellow...
White monkeys were ugly and their butts were pink!..... Ha ha

2006-10-12 09:12 AM

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Personal/racist abuse

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Originally posted by plasmalupus at 12.10.2006 04:12
Communication is the most important source of personal power.

With power comes responsibility and with responsibility comes respect. You will gain respect if you deal intelligently with the arguments. You will not gain respect if you use the anonymity of the Forum to merely abuse those with whom you disagree.

2006-10-12 01:42 PM

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weiminfuwu

Give me a break....

This post is about the lump of coal in the woodpile...

Surely you have not lost your sense of humor.... and you're not color blind.

Very hard to be a true racist when your 1/4 Irish, 1/4 German, 1/2 Chinese

2006-10-12 10:03 PM

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Coal In the woodpile??

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Originally posted by plasmalupus at 12.10.2006 17:03
Give me a break....

Surely you have not lost your sense of humor.... and you're not color blind.

I think I may have lost my sense of humour; I get absent minded with age. I'm sure I'll find it again on the CD Forum though.

Since I was last a regular here I've been witness to some seriously nasty racist stuff; the kind that causes people to be enslaved and killed. And the only solution, I think, is to try to get people to acknowledge others as human biengs - as members of the same race.

Actually, I'm one eighth Irish, one of my Chinese friends in the UK says I'm half Chinese and the rest is English; which is German with the verbs in the right place (ho ho).

I still don't like racism though.

2006-10-13 04:00 AM

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europa = jetsam = flotsam

2006-10-13 11:17 AM

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Alter egos

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Originally posted by ratcatcher at 13.10.2006 06:17
europa = jetsam = flotsam

Thanks ratcatcher; it was just starting to dawn on me!

Anyone for contention?

2006-10-14 12:47 AM

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europa aka jetsam aka flotsam

I notice that in another thread you wrote this -

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Hence the Irish and Scots originate not from Europe but from Scythian Asia. This is also supported by genetic tests performed on the Irish and Scots showing them to be foreign and distant to true European peoples

This is very interesting. We could argue indefinitely about the the validity of different historical sources but the results of large scale genetic testing would be much harder to refute.

I don't know of any such studies that confirm or even vaguely support the Scythian origin myth. If you could provide some checkable links to back up this claim I would be very interested indeed.

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Recent reports from the UK media claim that they're Basques

I assume you're referring to this - http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1393742006

This would appear to suggest that most modern Brits can trace the majority of their DNA to migrants from the Iberian Peninsular. The article points out that - " the genetic connection to populations in Spain provides a scientific basis for part of the ancient Scots' origin myth. " So, perhaps the authors of The Declaration of Arbroath were correct to say that their ancestors; " dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes. " However, analysis of the DNA evidence makes it clear that their ancestors were not originally Scythian invaders but were actually descended from some of Europe's earliest inhabitants.

see also - http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf
http://www.dnaheritage.com/masterclass2.asp

So, come on europa/jetsam/flotsam, let's see some examples of those " genetic tests performed on the Irish and Scots showing them to be foreign and distant to true European peoples. "

Unless of course they don't exist.

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2006-10-15 03:23 AM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by _weiminfuwu at 2006-10-13 06:00
I'm half Chinese and the rest is English; which is German with the verbs in the right place (ho ho).
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Very clever

, I haven't heard that one before, where did it come from?

JB

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still waiting...

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So, come on europa/jetsam/flotsam, let's see some examples of those " genetic tests performed on the Irish and Scots showing them to be foreign and distant to true European peoples. "

2006-10-16 05:18 AM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by ratcatcher at 2006-10-16 07:18
still waiting...

And if its facts or evidence you want from people like Jetsam (Flotsam), to back up their spurious lies, well you'll be waiting a very very long time.

2006-10-16 03:00 PM

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I think people might look at me funny were I to say im slavic/ cyciatic or whatever.......................

2007-2-18 01:12 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by europa at 2006-10-11 14:57
The Irish, Picts and Scots are a Scythian people originally from Central Asia in what is now modern day Russia.

So while flotsam/jetsam/europa(?) is complaining about the colonising behaviour of anglos, we see that Asians "invaded" and colonised Britain well before the British started doing it!!!

2007-2-22 06:08 PM

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Change the record man!!

Europa , you seem to be regurgitating a theory thats been circulating for a while now , a theory thats been disproven by solid scientific research , mythology and what the Irish already know themselves , there seems to be a lot of venom and little fact in your rant , check out ]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/1256894.stm , http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/wales/2076470.stm , oh and F.Y.I the bagpipes are North African in Origin.

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change the record!!

Europa you seem to be regurgitating a theory that has been disproven by solid scientific research which genetically relates the Irish , Welsh and Scots to the most ancient Basque inhabitants of Northern Europe check out [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/1256894.stm[/url] , Validated independent studies have shown that the Celtic race is in fact a fusion of peoples and cultures and the theory of a pure , singular ,Celtic race genetically or culturally is unfounded. F.Y.I the bagpipes are North African in origin , your rant contains a lot of venom , maybe your'e transferring an internal personal problem onto issues of race and identity? Theres nothing you can throw at the Irish or do to us that hasn't been done already!! Our spirit and character always finds a way to survive!! All cultures blend internal and external influences , YES you are right in saying that Ireland shares music and culture with continental Europe but this does not mean that that any one country "OWNS" it , the Gaelic Irish people like the Scots are a fusion of people who were ALL originally nomads who do share genes with people called "KETS" who inhabitated Southern Russia and later moved into Northern Europe , and who also have genetic links to some Native Americans. Even if your theory about the Irish not being "Celtic" is true , we were partly influenced by Celtic culture , it being a loose collective of peoples and not a single cohesive race as you would state. The Irish integrated the "Celtic" arts with their own and by Jesus did we perfect the Celtic arts!! The Irish have proved themselves to be the best pipers , musicians , poets , warriors and performers the world has known. Get some help for your hatred problem boss , and in future get yer facts straight!!

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2007-6-12 08:00 PM

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Look at the eividence

according to the kilt evidence

the Scots are almost certainly Japanese

(sorry about the small photo, but that was all I could grab from a Google image search for "Japanese School girl" that wasn't porn and I wanted to close the window before I got fired)

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