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What's next
a Starbucks on the centre of Tianammen ?
You are slow,and we are slow!The Starbucks is already IN Forbidden City!!
2006-6-21 02:51 PM
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making money, of course!
McDonald's, Sinopec serve up Drive-Thru deal
By Liu Jie(China Daily)
McDonald's China joined with China Petroleum and Chemical Corporation (Sinopec) yesterday to set up its Drive-Thru restaurants at selected Sinopec service station sites across China.
The move aims to accelerate the business development of McDonald's in China and strengthen the sales and service of Sinopec's non-oil products.
The contract was signed between the two Fortune 500 companies and Oriental Creation Management Co Ltd Sinopec's only strategic and long-term partner responsible for the operation and management of its non-petrol business through its national chain.
Drive-Thru is the name given to the McDonald's service giving drivers access to the chain's restaurants from the convenience of their cars.
According to Mike Roberts, president and chief operating officer of McDonald's Global, the partners share goals of developing existing and new outlets in medium- and large-sized cities in China. He said burgeoning car ownership in the country would provide huge opportunities for its Drive-Thru business.
"Our initial focus will be on Sinopec's service stations in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou," said Roberts, adding that the outlets would not be limited.
McDonald's already has three Drive-Thru outlets in Dongguan and Shunde of South China's Guangdong Province and recently opened an outlet in Shanghai, in collaboration with Chinese home improvement group Oriental Home and real estate firm Pan-China.
The fast food conglomerate plans to open several flagship restaurants in key cities by the end of this year; exact figures, however, were not disclosed.
McDonald's is eyeing Sinopec's retail network, as China's largest producer and marketer of both wholesale and retail oil products currently operates more than 30,000 service stations throughout China and continues to grow at a rate of approximately 500 new outlets annually.
For Sinopec, "our need for professional and reliable business partners is underlined by the fact that we serve millions of consumers across the country on a daily basis," said Wang Tianpu, president of the oil giant.
2006-6-21 03:03 PM
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Starbucks are already selling breakfast in China now, and it was launching five new sandwiches which price on average are 30% more than those at McDonald's.
2006-6-21 03:05 PM
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do not like the smell
My wife and I hardly eat McDonalds, or KFCs, or go to Starbucks. We eat pizza hut several times a year, because it provides plenty of vegetable and fruit salads.
eat hamburgers in the car? no.
2006-6-21 03:10 PM
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Just imagine walking across Tianammen Square,
walking towards the entrance to the Forbidden city with the big Mao poster, and it says underneath it: "
Welcome to the Forbidden City, sponsored by the Starbucks corp.
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2006-6-21 03:19 PM
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unfortunately, fast food in china is still regarded as a kind of healthy food by most people in mainstream of society. established fast food brands in china such as McDonald's and KFC favor using chinese child to mislead people into thinking that their food is healthy which in US and western EU everybody knows is a lie.
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2006-6-21 03:33 PM
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Mao poster?
Welcome to the Forbidden City, sponsored by Startbucks Corp?
chinese emperor culture cohabitates with capitalist Starbucks coffee, wonderful!
Confucius never imagined it. We made it.
Is it Fubai? no. Only reflects the creativity of Chinese people.
2006-6-21 03:33 PM
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Reply #7 dukuanhanson's post
Maybe this is another American conspiracy:try to get Chinese addicted to fast food and coffee so the next generation of Chinese are>well,ya,go figure...hahaha
2006-6-21 03:38 PM
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More about the Mao poster?
though the poster is renewed every year, and throngs of rural folks still wait for their turns to take pictures before it, do the urban elite, or the leaders sitting working at their office several hundred metres away really seek inspiration from the man on the poster?
I don't believe it.
2006-6-21 03:41 PM
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Reply #8 hanlei's post
Well,its not creativity,but Globlization!
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2006-6-21 03:43 PM
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Welcome to the Forbidden City, sponsored by Startbucks Corp.
I could imagine that's happening in the near future.
if someday our national symbolization is attached with commercial tag, we chinese people will lost our last cultural pure land, we will become soulless.
2006-6-21 03:47 PM
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When i go to a mickey d's or KFC it's always Chinee people working behind the counter, so what's wrong with a Chinese person opening up a KFC franchise that will employ 20-30 locals?
2006-6-21 03:51 PM
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It is creation, very courageous creation.
then, who brought china to WTO and globalization? It was premier Zhu Rongji. Who picked up zhu rongjji? it was Deng, the short but mighty man. "socialism with chinese characteristics" + crystal pearl on the crown, was his creation!
2006-6-21 03:55 PM
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Reply #12 dukuanhanson's post
While Globlization is surfing the net and drinkin an espresso in the forbidden city,Its also Japanese snatching up the Columbia pictures and Rockefeller Center.Chinese emperor may pull his hairs out at the former scene,and Americans were not happy about the latter one.
BUT Thats what we can get from globlization.You an get mad about it,but have have to accept it and move on with ypur life.
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2006-6-21 03:58 PM
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then, who brought china to WTO and globalization? It was premier Zhu Rongji. Who picked up zhu rongjji? it was Deng, the short but mighty man. "socialism with chinese characteristics" ...
I adore Deng Xiaoping!
he changed the ways we chinese people live. without him we could only walk into darkness, look at North Korea, if we didn't follow Deng's policy, we could be in their situation!
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2006-6-21 04:05 PM
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but, the banner --
"socialism with chinese characteristics," in the eyes of many, are not perfect. Though 28 years of "it" has brought china enormous chances, diversity, dynamity, prosperity to many, it has "side-effects" too, such as
-- the TV commercial I am now watching on Guangxi satellite channel, promoting 299-yuan-a-piece men's shorts, with two couples of white big-noses, and chinese, trying on and exaggerating the magic functions of the shorts embedded with "exotic medicine" that "enhances erectivity". and
-- the enlarging gap of wealth, a rather raucous topic, but it in essence is a natural product of enterprise, and market.
2006-6-21 04:15 PM
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In The Scheme of Things
Keep in mind that fast food operations are labor and land rents intensive, and tend to have much lower profit margins than say Microsoft's software. What that means is that for each RMB of sale, more (80%?) show up as payment for local input and thus benefit the local economy. Fast food franchises probably pays a lot of taxes and contribute to fiscal income of the State.
Yes, fast food can be harmful to the health of the Chinese. But most Chinese are not yet wealthy enough to eat Western quantities (e.g., one Big Mac every other day) of Western fast food. It is still more of a novelty. In comparison to say cigarettes and liquor, fast food is still rather innocuous as an economic activity.
On the bright side, domestic entrepreneurs have ready models to learn from, and to build and grow their own chains.
There is certainly the possibility of grift involved. But I doubt that the degree or the magnitude would be any higher than if the business partner is not McDonalds. Greasing the palms is just the way of business the world over.
Fast food does not worry me, as the barrier to entry is so low. But the sale of the largest Chinese construction machinery company, Xugong, for a measly $375 million, to a foreign investor which is likely to flip the whole thing to a big competitor (like Caterpillar or John Deere or one of the Jap companies) in a few years, really is alarming.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne ... w_Q9S8&refer=us
Sometimes you do wonder what the heck is going on, and who is watching out for national interest. If anything, after the CNOOC rebuff, Xugong should be off limits. Carlyle is NOT bringing technology to the table. Chinese does not need the measly $375 million, which can easily be raised in Hong Kong.
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2006-6-21 05:04 PM
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That Does Put a Different Twist on Things
Now if it is a payoff, then perhaps it is O.K.
Nobody gets anything for free, president or ex-president or no. So if China gets something in return, then all is well.
2006-6-22 10:57 AM
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