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joehsu
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what do you think aout Rebecca mail accident???

Some background for this accident: Loke Soon Choo is the chief leader of EMC in China.  Rebecca is Loke’s secretary.
One night, exactly is Apr 7th, 2006, loke were locked out of his office for Rebecca locked the door.  Loke was so angry and send a tough mail to Rebecca as well CC to other four EMC top leaders at 1:13 AM, Saturday, April 08, 2006.

Rebecca was angry too.  Later, she sent a response to loke and CC to all Chinese EMC group as following message.

Loke Soon Choo’s message:
Rebecca, I just told you not to assume or take things for granted on Tuesday and you locked me out of my office this evening when all my things are all still in the office because you assume I have my office key on my person.

With immediate effect, you do not leave the office until you have checked with all the managers you support - this is for the lunch hour as well as at end of day, OK? ”

Rebecca’ message: (I can not translate well for ... need your help)
首先，我做这件事是完全正确的，我锁门是从安全角度上考虑的，如果一旦丢了东西，我无法承担这个责任。
First, I do the right thing and it is for safety concern.  I can not bear the responsibility if anything lost.

其次，你有钥匙，你自己忘了带，还要说别人不对。造成这件事的主要原因都是你自己，不要把自己的错误转移到别人的身上。
Then, you do have the key but you do forget to take it and you still blame other people.  It is your own; please do not blame others.

第三，你无权干涉和控制我的私人时间，我一天就8小时工作时间，请你记住中午和晚上下班的时间都是我的私人时间。
Third, my daily work time is only 8 hours.  Please do remember not to attempt to interfere or want to control my private time such as lunch time and night off duty.

第四，从到EMC的第一天到现在，我工作尽职尽责，也加过很多次班，我也没有任何怨言，但是如果你们要求我加班是为了工作以外的事情，我无法做到。
Fourth, please do not ask me to do anything that has nothing to do with my duty. I will not do that.  You know, I worked hard in EMC and over work many times when I served in EMC.

第五，虽然咱们是上下级的关系，也请你注重一下你说话的语气，这是做人最基本的礼貌问题。
Fifth, please take care of your manner of talking to your underling although you are the supervisor.

第六，我要在这强调一下，我并没有猜想或者假定什么，因为我没有这个时间也没有这个必要。
Last, I do not assume or take something for granted for I have no time to do and It not necessary to do that.

The original message:

From: Hu, Rui [mailto:Hu_Rui@emc.com]
Sent: 2006年4月10日 13:48
To: Loke, Soon Choo
Cc: China All (Beijing); China All (Chengdu); China All (Guangzhou); China All (Shanghai); Lai, Sharon
Subject: FW: Do not assume or take things for granted
Soon Choo,
首先，我做这件事是完全正确的，我锁门是从安全角度上考虑的，北京这里不是没有丢过东西，如果一旦丢了东西，我无法承担这个责任。
其次，你有钥匙，你自己忘了带，还要说别人不对。造成这件事的主要原因都是你自己，不要把自己的错误转移到别人的身上。
第三，你无权干涉和控制我的私人时间，我一天就8小时工作时间，请你记住中午和晚上下班的时间都是我的私人时间。
第四，从到EMC的第一天到现在为止，我工作尽职尽责，也加过很多次的班，我也没有任何怨言，但是如果你们要求我加班是为了工作以外的事情，我无法做到。
第五，虽然咱们是上下级的关系，也请你注重一下你说话的语气，这是做人最基本的礼貌问题。
第六，我要在这强调一下，我并没有猜想或者假定什么，因为我没有这个时间也没有这个必要。

_____________________________________________
From: Loke, Soon Choo
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:13 AM
To: Hu, Rui
Cc: Ng, Padel; Ma, Stanley; Zhou, Simon; Lai, Sharon
Subject: Do not assume or take things for granted
Rebecca, I just told you not to assume or take things for granted on Tuesday and you locked me out of my office this evening when all my things are all still in the office because you assume I have my office key on my person.
With immediate effect, you do not leave the office until you have checked with all the managers you support - this is for the lunch hour as well as at end of day, OK?

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2006-4-28 09:51 AM

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To my point of view, actually, the lady has done a very stupid thing. Although, to some extends, the reason doesn't seem unfounded, she forgets the practical relation between their two (employee and boss). At last, she will find she has to pay for her words greatly. If I am the employer, sure, i won't employ such secretary. Becasue she is lack of ability to control her motion and communication skills, which is important for a secretary.
hehe... the stupidest thing is that she distributed the email all over the company and then spread to outside.Other employers, who would give her a job? i doubt.

2006-4-28 03:28 PM

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She doesn't like the secretary job that much.
She can enpower herself to be a lawyer if she is so strong in defensing herself.

2006-4-29 09:24 AM

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She Just Picked Up Bad Amreican Habit

Irresponsiblity is not freedom. She will probably by UNEMPLOYABLE unless she changes her identity.

Life is about choices, and the girl seemed unable to make the right choice. Now she pays dearly for it.

Part and parcel of the business world is the golden rule - the one with the gold makes the rules.

2006-4-29 09:39 AM

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To above users

Please remember :

1. Before you make comment, please investigate and repect the fact.
2. As long as you made comment, you are responsible for it.

I am so suprised, while so many online debates raised so many fairly comments and many of them give Hu Rui applauses and salutes, you appear to be outsiders and appathetic. I feel so sorry for you, you are living like a begger, because your logic seems like: as long as you can have a job and somebody pay you, you can bear any humiliation. Oh my god ~~~ what a slave philosophy to his lord.

非常遗憾，我对上述评论者的麻木感到惊讶和悲哀。

为什么没有人看到这个事件的所折射出来的积极意义（中国的白领在觉醒），却更关心的是这个秘书的职业前途是否光明？难道你们被房贷压的喘不过气了，而不得不靠卑躬屈膝、低三下四去谋生了吗？这和乞丐有什么两样？

难道你的尊严，可以拿去和一个压迫、侮辱你的人所给予你的所谓职业前途去做交易吗？

难道一个来自殖民地的人，骨子里看不起大陆人、经常把大陆同胞蔑称为“大陆佬”的，明明可以说中文、但却以讲中文为耻的，认定自己是“特等公民”、堂而皇之地在骑在你头上拉屎撒尿，你却低三下四地为了所谓的“职业前途”而出卖自己的国格、人格？

一个不要尊严的国家，永远不可能有发展前途；

一个迎合侮辱的民族，永远在世界上抬不起头；

一个低三下四的白领，永远没有成功的职业和人生。

我要为胡蕊鼓掌。她捍卫了自己应有的尊严，她没有为工资或者所谓的职业前途而出卖自己的人格。作为一个白领，作为一个女孩，这是何等的勇气！我们中国现在的白领，缺乏的正是这些！

我希望多一些胡蕊，少一些 Loke Soon Choo 之流－更重要的是少一些附炎趋势、低三下四的本地员工，这样中国的职业经理人才会获得公平的机会，和更加广阔的职业前途。

（顺便说一句，我不是一个极端民族主义者，但是，我懂得作为一个国人的应有尊严，这个尊严是不能做交易的）

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2006-5-25 12:27 PM

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bj_manager DING!!!!!

every people should be, and ought to be equal.
Hu Rui is not irresponsible, she is struggling for fairness.
We Chinese have too many slaves kneeling down for mercy, that's pity! I doubt why so many TV scenes depicting eunuches shaking their tails to the so-called emperors for their pleasure abound in screen from day to night ???
Where's our national spirit gone? but only left seeking money and bowing down for gold?

2006-5-25 02:26 PM

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