Chinadaily BBS - China & the World - The reason america will always be a superpower

Guest: Login | Register | Search | FAQ

Chinadaily BBS » News Talk» China & the World» The reason america will always be a superpower

Last Thread

Next Thread

frothow
Junior Member
Rank: 3

UID 75094
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1504
Posts 1490
Registered 2005-8-4
Location USA
Status Offline

The reason america will always be a superpower

The smartest minds when it comes to nuclear technology or other technology like in science or other endeavors
they come to america because they get properly compensated for there gifts . this is why they call america the land of opportunity
America is a brain drain to the world because the world simply dose not compensate talent like america dose its just that simple.
If you have skills of any kind were are you going to go ? The answer is simple America .

2006-3-19 10:28 AM

yukin8512
Primary Member
Rank: 2

UID 93129
Digest Posts 0
Credits 125
Posts 125
Registered 2006-3-12
Status Offline

Reply #1 frothow's post

being "invited" to wars while two parties involved were exhausted...getting paid from the parties involved...
bullying around the world...Yugoslavia,Vietnam,Costa Rica,Somalia,Panama,you name it...
getting sand and grit from Iraq back to Northen California for building the theme park...
lying to his own people and people all over the world..

2006-3-19 03:13 PM

tianyuanedu
Junior Member
Rank: 3

UID 77001
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1783
Posts 1663
Registered 2005-8-23
Status Offline

QUOTE:

Originally posted by frothow at 2006-3-19 10:28
The reason america will always be a superpower

The smartest minds when it comes to nuclear technology or other technology like in science or other endeavors
they come to america because they get properly compensated for there gifts . this is why they call america the land of opportunity
America is a brain drain to the world because the world simply dose not compensate talent like america dose its just that simple.
If you have skills of any kind were are you going to go ? The answer is simple America .

Yet you seem to ignore the point of justice in all of this. You do realise, don't you, that the US economy is also greatly subsidised by the world-wide EFL industry, which thus allows the US to pay the higher salaries.

2006-3-19 05:38 PM

felix01
Newcomer
Rank: 1

UID 93623
Digest Posts 0
Credits 3
Posts 3
Registered 2006-3-18
Status Offline

superpower?

maybe now. but from a long standpoint, americans have to admit they'll lose the status to China as some of the posts here claimed. i am saying this not because i am a chinese but facts don't tell lies. i am sure most of you and i strongly believe what China has accomplished in the past twenty years since its reform and opening up and what China will be in the next few years...........

2006-3-19 05:46 PM

freedomray (freedomray)
Primary Member
Rank: 2

UID 30663
Digest Posts 0
Credits 108
Posts 84
Registered 2004-6-7
Status Offline

bullshit!!!!!

2006-3-19 09:03 PM

benemaru
Primary Member
Rank: 2

UID 92957
Digest Posts 0
Credits 90
Posts 85
Registered 2006-3-10
Status Offline

No, I don't think so!
At least, I can say there're many new market in the world around,
"US is always not the whole world." Do remember this, Americans.

2006-3-19 09:29 PM

mingbeyond
Newcomer
Rank: 1

UID 90905
Digest Posts 0
Credits 28
Posts 28
Registered 2006-2-15
Status Offline

one reason: encourage on idea-generation

Amearicans always welcome new idea!! while these ideas will lead to things unimaginable

2006-3-19 09:35 PM

frothow
Junior Member
Rank: 3

UID 75094
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1504
Posts 1490
Registered 2005-8-4
Location USA
Status Offline

Reply #4 felix01's post

No way ,the chinese economy and exports are driven by cheap labor . America will always grab the talent of the world besides theirs no
room for anyone to go to china not only that but America is a better place to live as far as the environment and weather.

2006-3-20 06:38 AM

frothow
Junior Member
Rank: 3

UID 75094
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1504
Posts 1490
Registered 2005-8-4
Location USA
Status Offline

America took over iraq in two weeks

Its only dealing with gang problems at the moment don't you remember the first conflict with iraq ? not a single US plain went down from Iraq's useless russian plains . Americas military force is by far the best in the world

2006-3-20 10:39 AM

#10

iluv2fish (iluv2fish)
Super Member
Rank: 6

UID 40653
Digest Posts 1
Credits 7205
Posts 6846
Registered 2004-10-6
Status Offline

Froth....

...from a proud American...you should never be too cocky.

America is and has and hopefully will in the future be a good leader in the world. We do
have it good here compared to alot of place in the world.

DO you think that you work any harder than the Chinese here on this site? Do you think you
work smarter than the Chinese on this site? I don't think I do and I doubt you do. Our
generation has been blessed and with hard work, good plans and luck and what our
parents before us did.

Understand that we are on the top of the world (in my opinion) but take this not as a
given but as an opportunity. Life throws all kind of curve balls at us and we should be
optimistic but cautious at the same time. Staying on the top is no guarantee.

As far as China and “has accomplished in the past twenty years" has been incredible
but there again comes the saying......"what have you done for me lately". Just because
China says we did really good the past 25 years it does not guarantee them that they
will do good in the next twenty years. China in my opinion has done great but they have
many obstacles in their way the next 25 years.

2006-3-20 11:06 AM

#11

frothow
Junior Member
Rank: 3

UID 75094
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1504
Posts 1490
Registered 2005-8-4
Location USA
Status Offline

Iluv2fish

I'm not cocky its the other people here that a very cocky in there opinions of the the downfall of america if you read some of these posts
you would think America is the worst thing since the Yugo!

2006-3-20 11:16 AM

#12

greendragon
Super Member
Rank: 6

UID 53124
Digest Posts 0
Credits 15679
Posts 15225
Registered 2005-1-13
Status Offline

Reply #12 frothow's post

One thing for sure, Mr. Frothow's......
Historical speaking.....in fact quite recent history (Russian Federation)......
you cannot survive on a fraudulent dollar.......

Mr. Flotsam is a MODEL BRITISH MINORITY.....
He is trying to SAVE BRITAIN from allying to America's destructive policies....

and you should listen to your own MODEL MINORITY like Mr. RaymondUSA....
..who is trying to save America from doom......

That's what model minority people try to do for their country!!!!!!

Cheerios!

fm

Green Dragon

[ Last edited by greendragon at 2006-3-20 11:29 AM ]

2006-3-20 11:27 AM

#13

iluv2fish (iluv2fish)
Super Member
Rank: 6

UID 40653
Digest Posts 1
Credits 7205
Posts 6846
Registered 2004-10-6
Status Offline

Froth...I know what you mean...but

...remember...they are trying to get where you already are.

What else can they do?

2006-3-20 12:43 PM

#14

matt605
Senior Member
Rank: 4

UID 30468
Digest Posts 0
Credits 2226
Posts 2185
Registered 2004-6-5
Status Offline

China in Vietnam?

QUOTE:

When China entered the Vietnam War, THE AMERIKANS RAN.

I've heard about China in Korea and Soviet made weapons in Vietnam. I haven' t heard about China in Vietnam. In fact, China and Vietnam fought a border war in 1979.

When and where did Chinese troops fight in Vietnam? Based upon the Korean War, it would have made sense to flee, but it's my belief that China was busy with internal politics as Vietnam was occurring. In fact my late father believed that the USA placed 500,000 combat troops in Vietnam in order to contain China. And I notice that one difference between the Korean War and the Vietnam War is that in Vietnam the USA did not venture north of the demilitarized zone (DMZ), and China did not enter the conflict.

2006-3-20 12:43 PM

#15

huang262
Moderator
Rank: 7

UID 81880
Digest Posts 0
Credits 2806
Posts 2563
Registered 2005-10-11
Location Southeast Asia
Status Offline

Mr Cocky

Hey, Mr Cocky, have a look at this article from an Australian newspaper. If the scenario pans out, America won't be able to buy oil with IOUs anymore! Which means kissing your superpower status goodbye! Get it?

Bush's Iran plan a time bomb with explosive results
By Kenneth Davidson
March 20, 2006
The Age

THE updated version of the Bush Administration's 2002 national security strategy, released in Washington last week, identifies Iran as the country that may pose the biggest danger to the United States.

According to Reuters, the strategy document, which reaffirms pre-emptive military action as a central tenet of US security policy, raises fears the Bush Administration will resort to force to prevent Iran acquiring nuclear weapons.

If force is used, it will come in the form of air strikes, as US land forces are already overstretched in the occupation of neighbouring Iraq.

One question still to be confronted is the impact such a strike would have on the US economy and how that would affect the global economy, particularly Australia, which is, after the US, the largest-deficit country in the advanced industrial world.

At the very least, a broadening of the war in the Middle East would be certain to push up interest rates in the US and Australia, because the central banks there would have to protect the currencies' value by increasing yields. How far and fast would depend on judgements about the likely outcome of the military intervention.

An air strike against Iranian nuclear facilities is unlikely to be surgical. There are about 50 sites associated with nuclear development in Iran and they are mainly sited in towns where civilian populations would be at risk. An attack would be certain to inflame the Islamic world against the US, almost certainly lead to a full-scale civil war in Iraq with the support of the predominantly Shiite Iranian people, and the US fleet in the shallow and narrow Persian Gulf would have to withdraw or be vulnerable to Iranian missile attack.

Worse, any air strike against Iran is unlikely to get the support of the United Nations Security Council, given that China and Russia would likely veto any resolution put up by the US.

Why would the Bush Administration risk widening Gulf War II to include Iran when it still has the chance to limit its losses to Iraq? The most popular explanation is that the US wants to pre-empt the Iranian decision to set up a Tehran oil bourse to facilitate the selling and buying of oil in euros instead of US dollars.

The idea is that this would cause a chain reaction in which more and more oil producers and their customers would trade in euros and eventually force the US to pay for its oil in euros too. This would mean the US would have to do what every other country in the world has to do, namely earn foreign exchange through exports in order to pay for its oil imports.

Last year the US trade deficit for petroleum products was about $300 billion. While the $US remains the international reserve currency and oil continues to be traded in dollars, the US can pay for its oil simply by printing more IOUs in the form US treasury bills.

If the US had to find euros (or yuan) to pay for its oil, it would have to increase taxes, cut consumption and increase exports. In short, according to this scenario, the US could no longer afford to be a military superpower and would have to cut back its global adventures.

In the process, the $US would collapse, wiping out the accumulated financial assets of America's major creditors and probably causing a depression of 1930s dimensions. More generally, such a development opens up the question of whether the reserve status of the $US is supporting US superpower status, or whether US military power is propping up the reserve currency status of the $US.

WHILE the possibility of oil trading in euros and the yuan present a possible long-term threat to US economic and military hegemony, it doesn't have to be dealt with immediately.

Similarly, the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran is at least some years into the future. But even with nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them and the control systems to guide them, deterrence and the doctrine of mutually assured destruction (MAD) applies to Iran as much as it did to the Soviet Union.

The main strategic change is that if Iran gets the bomb, the US (and Israel) can't attack Iran unless they are prepared to risk MAD.

The cynical explanation for the Bush Administration's threats against Iran is that, like the build-up to the invasion of Iraq, the real objective is "regime change", which has been re-enforced by the slump in President Bush's approval rating to 34 per cent.

The only thing on the political horizon that might restore Republican fortunes is a new and credible national security threat in order to keep control of Congress in the November elections.

If the Republicans lost control of Congress, the way becomes open for hearings into the constitutionality of the Bush Administration's use of wiretaps on Americans without warrants as required by legislation.

The Republican majority in both the Senate and the Reps has blocked examination of the legality of this and other actions by the Bush Administration.

How far the Bush Administration is prepared to go in Iran in order to avoid losing control of Congress to a hostile Democrat majority, which might opt for impeachment, will have fundamental consequences for the global economy in 2006.

Kenneth Davidson is a senior columnist.

2006-3-20 01:19 PM

#16

iluv2fish (iluv2fish)
Super Member
Rank: 6

UID 40653
Digest Posts 1
Credits 7205
Posts 6846
Registered 2004-10-6
Status Offline

There goes China again...

"Worse, any air strike against Iran is unlikely to get the support of the United Nations
Security Council, given that China and Russia would likely veto any resolution put up by the US."

Chinese Foreign Policy-

"Shut eyes, cover ears.....so what if madmen get Nukes....as long as we get our oil we will
keep our mouths shut".

2006-3-20 01:47 PM

#17

yukin8512
Primary Member
Rank: 2

UID 93129
Digest Posts 0
Credits 125
Posts 125
Registered 2006-3-12
Status Offline

QUOTE:

Originally posted by iluv2fish at 2006-3-20 13:47
"Worse, any air strike against Iran is unlikely to get the support of the United Nations
Security Council, given that China and Russia would likely veto any resolution put up by the US." ...

整个儿一老农........

an entire son's one old-fashioned bumpkin....

:lol :lol

2006-3-20 03:10 PM

#18

raymondusa (raymondusa)
Junior Member
Rank: 3

UID 31663
Digest Posts 1
Credits 1684
Posts 1669
Registered 2004-6-22
Status Offline

frothow:

Always is a very long time, and an empty assertion, not to mention an unfounded arrogance not supported by facts.  US can maintain some illusions of wealth by borrowing, but that is already problematic too.  Do you know the interest on our debts is over twice what we spend on our entire educational system?  No wonder why we import brains from elsewhere.

You really need to read “Running on Empty”, since your tone suggest that you really don’t know how bad things are, and that the worst in yet to come.  If you look at the history of fallen Empires, they follow a similar pattern.

1. Get some power, then get greedy and want more hegemonic power

2. Military buildup to continue the war machine and conquer more territory.  Today, it is not necessarily territorial conquest, but sponsoring client states around the world, which gives it similar influence

3. Increase spending to extend influence, even incur obscene debts at the expense of the domestic needs

4. As the Empire starts imploding from within because there aren’t enough financial resources, (human resources, despite conscriptions) the Empire tries to maintain hegemony as long as it can

5. Empires usually collapse and implode economically, because extending influence is very costly.  Empires should learn the lessons from previous fallen Empires.  Force may conquer territory, but it cannot conquer human nature.  Any doubts about which is more powerful, just look at human history littered with cadavers of fallen empires, and yet human nature is alive and well.

frothow, save the unfounded arrogance and get real. US is showing many of the above signs so if you are not worried, then you are not truly aware of the current and forthcoming problems.

Brief list:

Record Debts, high reliance on foreign financing

Consumer Credit Debts at very high levels, spending to maintain illusions of wealth and lifestyle it wants, but truly cannot afford, with record number of bankruptcies prior to changes in the law

Record Deficits

Current Account Deficits

Unfunded Liabilities greater than US net worth  (Social security, Medicare)

Massive wave of retirements to start in 2008 as baby boomers begin retiring

Unfunded and under funded pensions

Central Bankers around the world holding enough dollars reducing US leverage

Real questions about US ability to maintain the dollar as a world reserve currency, and getting to banana republic status, if not already, since Argentina actually had lower percentage of CAD before it imploded

Real questions about whether US can continue to enjoy the bounty of petrodollar recycling when the momentum is moving away and towards Euros, and perhaps other baskets of currencies, or bypassing currency risk all together with barter agreements, and other types of uniformed exchanges and transactional mechanisms

Blowback from too much hypocritical foreign policies, which means more money spent reacting to terrorism

Lost moral credibility around the world since US is viewed as hypocritical

Frothow, this is only a brief list, and it is already daunting enough.  I don’t know if you truly see the problems now and ahead, but talk and asserting US superpower isn’t going to change these facts.  Recognizing the problems and working to solve it sooner rather than later, is best.

What can US do?

Get real and stop living in the past, since you cannot fix what you don’t see as a problem

Reform taxing policies to balance the budget, with a mandate to not incur any more deficits

Cut wasteful government spending, with better oversight, and accountability (something better and stronger than GAO)

Americans must save more money.  This would be a double benefit as it reduces debts, and narrow the trade deficits.

Have a real commitment to alternative energy and reduce dependences on foreign oil

Be committed to pay off the debt and return this country to a creditor nation

Be committed to fund education so our next generation has the skills to compete with the rest of the world, instead of importing the brains elsewhere

Reset our priorities.  Something is very wrong when our kids have sports stars and entertainment stars as role models, and not teachers and educators as role models.

[ Last edited by raymondusa at 2006-3-20 12:27 AM ]

2006-3-20 04:21 PM

#19

Printable Version | Email to Friend | Subscription | Favorites


Forum Rules	Feedback	Privacy