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Is the new Christian-Zionist alliance a threat to china?

Count your Christians China, because it is a new ballgame,
it is now a : "Christian (American Idiot) -----Zionist alliance."
I would take a guess that if you visit a Christian church in China
you would only be there 5 minutes and you would hear
"favourable preaching" about Israel and Zionism. Thinly disguised
political comment masquerading as "religious co-operation

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I base this on the American example; however, Christianity
is now a political mouthpiece for Zionism world wide .

Any patriotic Chinese person should visit a Chinese Christian church
and check this out.

Information on the Zionist control of American Christians coming up.

2006-1-19 05:01 PM

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I base this on the American example; however, Christianity
is now a political mouthpiece for Zionism world wide

That much is certain, even if that is done insidiously.

Strange that those who are opposed to the idea that Jesus was the Messiah is now firmly aligned with the ones who claimed the opposite.

2006-1-21 04:30 AM

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Christians always recognize themselves FIRST as Christians before race and nationality. Thus, their loyalty is always questionable. Today, they're in small numbers. So, they're quiet. If their numbers are big enough, they're start to howl for troubles.

We have seen how these groups betrayed and wreaked havoc for our people not too long ago in the Taiping Rebellion incident. What a bunch of troublemakers!

2006-1-21 11:34 AM

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Reply #3 admchengho's post

Christians have already reached appreciable numbers. Maybe what you have in mind are the ones who believe in Judaism. Those are small in numbers because they are rather eclectic.

2006-1-21 02:40 PM

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This is a new phenomenon

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Over the past few decades the alliance between Christians and Zionists
has grown stronger, this is deliberate and is one of the mainstays of the
control of the USA by Zionists. All I am saying is that is now appears to
be globalised. I see it in the UK on religious TV programmes and even
with Christian relatives. So why should China escape the influence?

2006-1-21 05:46 PM

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Reply #5 christopher_104's post

What is the basic rationale for this worldwide control and where does the motivation come from?

Surely it is not genetic and must have a historical reason. What's your take on this?

2006-1-21 06:01 PM

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They have always exploited religion, even the fundamentalist Jews
who are sent onto Palestinian land were told by Zionists "God gave us
this land"

The success of the American take-over of the Christian bible belt
wackos has shown what power this can achieve. So why stop
in the USA?. All Christians have communication nowadays as never
before and Chinese support of Zionism via Chinese Christians
will be welcomed by Zionists world-wide. .

2006-1-21 06:21 PM

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GOOD TOPIC...THE DANGER IS ALREADY FRAGMENTING AMERICA

This is a good topic because this 'Christian-Zionist' agenda has nothing to do with real Jews, it has to do with Zionism based on the radical Christian fundamentalist agenda.  These are the folks who actually want to 'Christianize' Jews and turn Isreal into the Christian Zion.

In fact, Christian-Zionism is closely related to the British-Isrealite movement which says that Jews are not 'Jews' and that the real Jews are scattered in England and parts of Europe.

The Christian-Zionist agenda is to bring about ARMNAGGEDON as quick as possible.  After armageddon is achieved, the creatiion of the '1000 Year Reign (back in the 1940's this talk was also popular among some in Europe) of 'Christ' will commence and all Jews will be turned to Christians, all 'non-believers' will be Christianized, and the 'rapture' will commence.

This very fatalistic and fanatical view is one of the greatest dangers to humanity because the Christian-Zionist element are looking forward to that day with lots of anxiousness.

At present, no nation on earth, no alliance, no world power is strong enough to stop what is about to occur.  Christian-Zionists do not talk about how many weapons they have or how many soldiers they have.  They do not talk about their military or economic power or strength.  They exert mental and psychological brainwashing by corrupting Christianity and trying to influence the thoughts, behavior and alliances of people through the false pretense that they are 'righteous' and doing 'God's' work.

This is the very mentality that is also found in parts of the world where religion is used to push an agenda.  If anyone thinks the Christian-Zionist movement is a passing fad, they need to realize what has happened in America since the 1979 period.  America has drastically changed as far as politics is concerned.

By 1985, the Christian Zionist and British-Isrealite movement (ever heard of 'The World Tomorrow' or Dr. Gene Scott who talks about this phenomena on shortwave radio?) began to dominate the AM radio stations in the US.  They totally took over the political culture in the US and turned it into something that is similar to what occurred in Europe during the 1930's, when all types of propaganda became unleashed and it went out of control.

The news media became dominated by people with extreme and radical rightist views and agenda.  Most of these talk-show hosts on the am dial were either Jews or 'false' Jews who pretended to care about Isreal and Semitic Jews but were actually complete haters working for the Christian-Zion agenda, which includes 'Christianization' of Jews.

So from the mid 1980's people like Limblow, and many others began to take the 'sacred bath' to convert to Judaism.  These conversions were simply a way of showing they supported the Jewish cause.  YET, IT WAS A FACADE TO PROMOTE THE CHRISTIAN-ZIONIST AGENDA.

HOW THEY DIVIDED AMERICA

The current division and anger in America today was initiated by these propagandists who pretend to be 'loyal' to Isreal, because they think that is the leanings of the American people.  By pretending, they are actually hiding their true motivation.  That motivation is the creation of a NEW CHRISTIAN ZION IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

Today, we don't talk about the United States of America, the false 'Jews' (converted Anglo-Isrealite Christian Zionists) who dominate the 'rightwrong' political machine have been successful in dividing America into 'red states' and 'blue states.'  The read states are actually 'red, black and white' statess....and the blue states are actually the 'red' states when it comes to political ideology.

The so-called 'red' states are the same states that either supported slavery or were sitting on the fence during the Civil War.  The so-called 'red' states were also the ones who pushed the Black Washiitaw and other Negroid Black African-American tribes and nations from their lands in the Mississippi Valley, Louisiana/Gulf, the South Eastern US and California into slavery (IT MAY SHOCK SOME, BUT MOST 'BLACK SLAVES' WERE AFRICANS WHO WERE IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS - see "A History of the African-Olmecs http://community.webtv.net/pabarton ).  It was 'red state' mentality that also led to the pushing of the Native Americans from the Eastern region of the US into the Western Oklahoma Territory and all the way to California and the very hot and very dry lands of the South West that were the original homelands of the Black African-American 'Indians.'
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2

LAST US ELECTIONS, DIVISIONS CAUSED BY PROPAGANDISTS

Anyone who followed the last two US elections and the previous Democratic administration may have realized the 'poison' that was spread by the 'Christian-Zionist' (mind you, these are not the same as Jew-Zionist, even if there may or may not be a connection) propagandists on the talk-show circuit and on Cable television ( like the 'Forked-Tongued News).  These were the new Zionists who want to replace Jews in Isreal and start World War II in order to fulfill BIBLICAL PROPHESY.

Anyone who has listened to the comments of the Farwells, Prat Robersons and other 'Christian-Zionists,' know very well that these fanatics are the ones that want to implement their religious beliefs and make sure prophesies become real in a self-fulfilling manner.

The ancestors of these types of people were the ones who corrupted the Bible to promote slavery.  They were the ones who established a slave trading network that included the Americas, Africa, South India, Melanesia, China, the Philipines and Europe.

In fact, the early religious people (Christians and others) declared that the Descendents of Ham (Black Negroid people and those with similar features such as South Indians, Austrics, Australian Aboriginals, Black Moors of Europe, Melanesians, South Chinese (THAT IS REALLY A FACT), Indonesians and some American Indians) were in fact 'Descendents of Ham' who were to be enslaved.

Therefore, the Portugese and others began to send their ships to look for spices, slaves and gold all the way to China and Japan (here are pictures of African and Chinese slaves being examined by Spanish soldiers during the 1500's AD see, http://www.mu-atlantis.org - GO TO 'Educational Journals' or 'Links'  also see http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire and the reference, "Susu Economics," (at AuthorHouse.com )

Although it may not be realized by some, Africans, American Indians, East Indians, Melanesians, Chinese, Philipinos and others were all classified as 'Descendents of Ham' and the Church Edict of 1450 AD gave the European monarchs the 'go ahead' to 'Christianize' and enslave descendents of Ham (see "A History of Racism and Terrorism, Rebellion and Overcoming." at Xlibris.com ).

During the slave trade, the most religious and most fanatical were also the ones who were behind the companies that were based in Europe and carried trade in the East.  During their trade, they took Chinese, African, Melanesian, East Indian and other peoples as slaves and sent them to the Caribbean to work for free under the most brutal conditions.  In fact today there are Chinese people of 'captive' and 'slave' ancestry in Cuba, Jamaica, Surinam, Trinidad and Tobago, South America.  These Asians, Africans and Melanesians also were sent to Mexico.  The Caribbean is basically composed of indigenous Black Califunami (preColumbian African), Africansof slave ancestors, East Indians, European religious exiles, Chinese and Indonesian slave descendents and others.  All these people were/are victims of the religious agenda of the early colonizers who used religion to justify worldwide slavery and colonialism.

In retrospect, today's Christian-Zionist are aiming for a similar agenda.  Yet, people have began to notice the tricks.  Today in much of Africa and the Caribbean, North and South America, the push to 'Christianize' continues to be rejected due to the experience of slavery and the use of religion ( and the English language's use of insulting terms to refer to non-Europeans) to push the agenda of racism and domination.

Our objective as righteous people is to know our history and work to promote what is positive.  ( Listen to 24 hours of African-American talk radio....'THE POWER,' Power 169 www.xmradio.com  1450 AM WOL, Washington DC, http://www.joemadison.com

2006-1-22 02:32 AM

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African and Chinese Victims of the Slave Trade

MU-ATLANTIS LINK, again:
see EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, AND 'JOURNALS' http://www.mu-atlantis.com
www.mu-atlantis.com

2006-1-22 02:43 AM

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Reply #8 jayzee's post

This discussion is getting more and more interesting.

Enlighten me if you will on this religious talk -- is the term "Christian Zionist" commonly accepted to describe this group of men who uses religion to camouflage their political ambitions?

It is getting more and more like the felongoons who have spread out from China like the 'tentacles' of a hydra or the 'claws' of Crab Nebula.

The common denominator of all these nuts is that they use religion as a shield against criticism.

It is difficult to associate in one's mind the real religious folks with the political fanatics. They are like Hyde and Jekyll.

2006-1-22 02:50 AM

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HERE IS THE AGENDA OF 'CHRISTIAN-ZIONISTS' BEGAN WORLD-WIDE SLAVERY

Take at look at this picture of African and Chinese slave captives being 'inspected' by Spanish soldiers during the 1500's.  It was the same 'Christian-Zionist' mentality that was used as the motivation  and the excuse to enslave Africans (descendents of Ham ... using the false 'curse' of Ham lie - when it was Canaan who was accused - and Canaan is actually one of the founding fathers of the People of the Middle East including Jews and Southern Europeans).

When the East (China, India, Japan, Indonesia) became accessable to the Europeans, they declared that the Chinese, Japanese, Indonesians - and those with the same 'rounded' features that Africans have - full lips, yellow-brown to dark complexions, medium to plathrynne noses, ect... straight to wavy/curly hair) were also 'Descendents of Ham to be enslaved as well.  IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT THAT 'KHAZAR' JEWS HAVE MONGOLOID AND NEGROID GENETICS AND THEY ORIGINATED IN CENTRAL ASIA.  SEPHARDIC JEWS AND AFRICAN JEWS ARE PREDOMINANTLY NEGROID GENES.

This is why there are people like Africans, Black East Indians (Hindu, Muslims, ect), Chinese, Javanese, American Indians living in the Caribbean.  All are victims of slavery, captivity and indentureship BASED ON THE RELIGIOUS EXCUSE OF THE EARLY 'CHRISTIAN-ZIONISTS.'

See: http://www.mu-atlantis.com/jmp1/6.htm

http://www.mu-atlantis.com/jmp1/3.htm

http://www.mu-atlantis.com/jmp1/1.htm

As many people are beginning to realize today, people like the 'prat robersons,' 'scarey Flawells' and that group of religious fanatics have been putting their feet in their mouths and making statements that are in line with their agenda of using religion to dominate the rest of humanity and ENFORCE THE 'CHRISTIAN-ZIONIST' AGENDA.

Be sure not to be fooled by 'JEWISH ZIONISM' AND 'CHRISTIAN ZIONISM'  they are totally different agendas.  The agenda of the Christian Zionists is world domination.

This will be done by corrupting 'vulnerable' and 'uninformed' people with religioius mythology that promotes racism (like the 'curse of Ham' lie ), and so you will have the English language with its thousands of racist 'phrases and words,' like 'blackmail,' 'yellow belly' 'negative' being taught to unsuspecting people around the world who want to learn english.  Yet, the subliminal messages can leave an impact.

It was European racism taught to the Japanese that led to the downfall of the Japanese and the counter-attack on them.  Anyone who knows Japanese history know of the European influence which included teaching Japanese racism and supremacy and after wiping out thousands of Chinese, they also wiped out thousands of Black Melanesians in the Papua-New Guinea and East Timor area.  It was actually the East Timor and other Melanesian Guerillas who defeated the Japanese and in the jungles and prevented them from invading Australia.

Yet, what do we have.  In Indonesia the same 'Japanese' racist mentality and the same Middle Eastern racist religious mentalty is part of the thinking of Malays in regards to the tretment of both Chinese and Black Melanesians.  Ironically,  the same racist mentality taken from RELIGION is used to attack Black Cushiites in Sudan - NOW THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN DECIDING POLICY AND OUR ABILITY TO PUSH FOR PEACE - we ourselves can become victims of the greater religious agenda of world domination which is being applied in Sudan, West Papua and parts of the Middle East by the very religions that promote Christian Zionism and racism.

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2006-1-22 03:40 AM

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"Be sure not to be fooled by 'JEWISH ZIONISM' AND 'CHRISTIAN ZIONISM'  they are totally
different agendas.  The agenda of the Christian Zionists is world domination. "

I agree there is a difference; however, the fact that Jewish Zionists encourage Christian
Zionists is a central point as far as I am concerned.

The wacko Christian Zionism  is why the Jewish people have gained control of the USA
( As sharon so famously boasted) , so I see them as having the same effect if not exactly
the same aim. Maltz schmaltz what does it matter so long as the USA pays in lives
and cash  to support Israel

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2006-1-22 05:06 AM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by christopher_104 at 2006-1-22 05:06
"Be sure not to be fooled by 'JEWISH ZIONISM' AND 'CHRISTIAN ZIONISM' they are totally
different agendas. The agenda of the Christian Zionists is world domination. "

I agree ther ...

Exactly, and that's why Bush went to church even though his stay in Beijing was only something like 40 hours.

Through the church -- that's how they are going to do it.

The Chinese call these folks "Shenguan" or "God-peddling thugs."

2006-1-22 03:14 PM

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wchao37, thanks

Shenguan" or "God-peddling thugs."

I will make a point of remembering this word. It really is interesting that
Chinese has such a word. I have realised over the past few years how
religion is manipulated by Zionists but the fact that Chinese has such a word
shows it is not only Zionists , other thugs have peddled religion as well.

2006-1-22 07:28 PM

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Your comments are very interesting indeed, I noticed Zionism was using
religion when reading the news over the past few years, It now appears
that Zionism is well practised and has experience in "religion manipulation"
going back deep into history.

2006-1-22 07:35 PM

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Wei Chao, I used the term "Felon Goon" across the internet and I had on numerous occasions mentioned that the term was first coined by ... someone from HK. I think I did mentioned your name on a few occasions. Hope you don't mind.

The late Pope John Paul II instigated Christians to topple governments deemed unfriendly to the wests in the name of freedom. Religion can also be a factor that held a nation from progressing further. Christian hardliners in the USA rejects science. It also divided people of different faiths. I don't see why we Chinese people need the divisive nature of Abrahamic religions.

2006-1-22 11:04 PM

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Oh you are welcome

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Originally posted by admchengho at 2006-1-22 23:04
Wei Chao, I used the term "Felon Goon" across the internet and I had on numerous occasions mentioned that the term was first coined by ... someone from HK. I think I did mentioned your na ...

Oh you are welcome anytime!

I think that term is now widely accepted in cyberspace. You did a great job propagating the term. When I first used it I didn't expect it to catch on so fast. This shows people are really fed up with these goons who are commiting felony crimes against humanity by taking advantage of their nascent innocence. This is one non-Abrahamic religion that is proving itself as bad as any that had gone before it.

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2006-1-23 02:36 PM

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The "Felon goon "threat

Really this is nothing compared with the "Zionut-happy clappy " threat
(Zionism- Christian) just look what happened in the USA.
OK Christians are few in China but rest assured they will know
the "message"...Which is---Unstinting support of Israel

I say again, visit a Christian church for 5 minutes and hear for it yourself

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2006-1-24 03:52 PM

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Let me put it this way, Chris

If you have seen a felongooner at work, you'd understand that they have a CLANDESTINE network out to do harm to the Chinese government.

Despite it Chinese origin, its overseas leaders are Whites -- what else could they be to be so well-financed other than spies?

Christianity, though also a menace, acts through a different medium.

2006-1-24 04:17 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by jayzee at 2006-1-22 03:40
Take at look at this picture of African and Chinese slave captives being 'inspected' by Spanish soldiers during the 1500's. It was the same 'Christian-Zionist' mentality that was used as the motiv ...

I see what you mean, jayzee.

What kind of a name is Kushango?

2006-1-24 04:19 PM

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