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China slams U.S. for sending Uighurs to Palau

BEIJING (Reuters) – China lashed out at the United States on Monday after the Obama administration sent six Uighur Chinese detainees from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay to the Pacific island nation of Palau.

China has repeatedly demanded that the Uighurs be returned but the U.S. government has said it could not do so because they would face persecution, and it has searched for months for a nation willing to accept them.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said the six were "terror suspects" and ought to have been sent back to China.

"We express our extreme dissatisfaction and resolute opposition that the United States disregarded the Chinese side and insisted on sending the terror suspects to a third place," Ma said in a statement on the ministry's website (www.mfa.gov.cn).

China had made "solemn representations" to the United States about the issue, he added.

The six belonged to a terror group listed by the United Nations, and the United States had a duty to hand them over, Ma said.

"China demands the United States abide by U.N. resolutions and fulfil its international anti-terror obligations, stop sending such terror suspects tofulfill third places, and should instead repatriate them to China as soon as possible," he added.

"China opposes any country taking these terror suspects."

The Uighurs, who come from China's largely Muslim far-west region of Xinjiang, were swept up by the U.S. government during the Afghanistan war launched after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

The choice of Palau is likely to further infuriate China as the island is one of only 23 countries that recognize Taiwan over Beijing.

Under its "one China" policy, Beijing claims self-ruled Taiwan as its own and insists on eventual unification, by force if necessary.

The transfer leaves 215 detainees at the detention camp that President Barack Obama has pledged to close by January 22, though political and legal hurdles are making it difficult for his administration to meet that goal.

Palau has agreed to take up to 12 Uighurs. Seven still remain at the controversial Guantanamo prison which was set up by the Bush administration to house terror suspects. Four other Uighurs were moved to Bermuda in June.

2009-11-3 10:23 AM

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The WUC has been supported by the NED, so the U.S. has painted itself into a corner by arresting some of their own foot soldiers.

2009-11-3 11:17 AM

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what will the US do if China does the same thing to it? double standard.

2009-11-3 11:18 AM

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Maybe if China used a tighter definition of who is a "terrorist", then the rest of the world might take their demands a little more seriously.

While China goes on and accuses the DL of causing everything from riots in Lhasa to carbon pollution and rising sea levels*, China's allegations will always be suspect.

(* that bit is what's known as a joke, but it admirably demonstrates the demonising of the DL which takes place by China's mouthpieces)

2009-11-3 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by emucentral at 2009-11-3 11:55
Maybe if China used a tighter definition of who is a "terrorist", then the rest of the world might take their demands a little more seriously. ...

The terrorists also in the US terrorist list, emucc.

You trust your ally sheriff, don't you?

2009-11-3 12:29 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by duanyihong at 2009-11-3 10:23
BEIJING (Reuters) – China lashed out at the United States on Monday after the Obama administration sent six Uighur Chinese detainees from the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay to the Pacific ...

What evidence does Beijing have on these 6 terror!sts other than the US picked them up in Afghanistan.

2009-11-3 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Exergy at 2009-11-3 13:50

What evidence does Beijing have on these 6 terror!sts other than the US picked them up in Afghanistan.

What do you think was the reason for being there? They certainly did not book a sightseeing/study tour nor did they partake in any social activities in Afghanistan.

2009-11-3 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-11-3 19:04

What do you think was the reason for being there? They certainly did not book a sightseeing/study tour nor did they partake in any social activities in Afghanistan.

Lack of co-operation in case of Iran, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, Sudan, NK, etc. etc.

What do you expect ?

A one-way-road ?

2009-11-3 07:09 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by harmless at 2009-11-3 20:09

Lack of co-operation in case of Iran, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, Sudan, NK, etc. etc.

What do you expect ?

A one-way-road ?

A revealing statement that shows that China NEVER must trust western powers. Terrorism for them is limited to terrorists who target the west. All other terrorist activities are fine and dandy. Tkx for this.

2009-11-3 07:13 PM

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Building trust requires always two.

But do not jump to conclusions because of the reasons I stated above, since those are by far not the only reasons.

Another, not less important reason was the danger of receiving the death penalty in China.

The country who was supposed to get them has no death penalty.

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2009-11-3 07:19 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by harmless at 2009-11-3 20:19
Building trust requires always two.

But do not jump to conclusions because of the reasons I stated above, since those are by far not the only reasons.

Another, not less important reason was t ...

I understood your message which is basically the western way to tackle terrorist problems. Once again, tkx.

2009-11-3 07:27 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-11-3 19:27

I understood your message which is basically the western way to tackle terrorist problems. Once again, tkx.

China is doing a similar policy when it comes to the "island province" .

2009-11-3 07:31 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by harmless at 2009-11-3 20:31

China is doing a similar policy when it comes to the "island province" .

Oh, I didn't know that there are terrorists at work. That's breaking news.

2009-11-3 07:33 PM

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Grrrrrrrrrrr

2009-11-3 07:37 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-11-3 19:13

A revealing statement that shows that China NEVER must trust western powers. Terrorism for them is limited to terrorists who target the west. All other terrorist activities are fine and dandy. ...

And I was so naive as to think that Germans living in Tokyo were "Westerners" too...

2009-11-3 09:08 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by liuyedao at 2009-11-3 12:29

The terrorists also in the US terrorist list, emucc.

You trust your ally sheriff, don't you?

And only simpletons believe the U.S. rapproachement with China over what factions or groups are to be regarded as "terrorists" was based on a careful, impartialand rational review of the situation...

Themajority of people around the world believes the U.S. made a kowtow to the Chinese in order to get their cooperation in the pursuit of other "terrorists". It was a quid-pro-quod sort ofgamble.

2009-11-3 09:11 PM

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Nothing but guesswork, conjectures, suspicions (after all, Uis don't have the money to go on touristjaunts abroad, right?)...
Is that how you want the guilty to be identified? Someone accuses, and that's "proof" for people of your ilk?
So long as China acts so high-handedly it will gain no repsect and trust internationally.

2009-11-3 09:13 PM

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Those freed from their 8-year long and totally unfair ordeal were happy to arrive in Palau... and the local populace gave them a rousing welcome.

Good on you, Palau people!

2009-11-3 09:15 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by seneca at 2009-11-3 22:08

And I was so naive as to think that Germans living in Tokyo were "Westerners" too...

My "friend",

You remember the old days of the Soviet empire when hundred of jokes about radio Erevan were in circulation?

They all started with - and i quote this in German....

Im Prinzip ja, aber......... (insert what you want)

Is this reply sufficient for you?

2009-11-3 09:27 PM

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Actually Satsu...

QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 11/3/2009 06:04 AM
What do you think was the reason for being there? They certainly did not book a sightseeing/study tour nor did they partake in any social activities in Afghanistan.

... this issue stems from a very, very bad dicision at the outset of the Afgan campaign to offer bounties for "terrorists" to which more than a fair share of unscruplous bounty hunters grabbing anyone that could be found in both Afganistan and Pakistan.

There was a couple of articles about this back in 2004-2005 timeframe - when the U.S. Armed Forces copped up to that fact when they started to consolidate folks at Gauntamo Bay and realized they were bambozled - from kidnapped kids to senile old men - resulting in the mess that is now.

2009-11-3 09:39 PM

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